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As the result of the enquiry is not expected until possibly the beginning of next year followed by the Government re considering the application, which in itself still has an uncertain outcome. The question is can CVT survive without generating other forms of income for thaqt period of time?
If the enquiry goes against them what is the next step? Should they not be preparing for that scenario?
If the enquiry goes against them what is the next step? Should they not be preparing for that scenario?
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An enquiry is a request for information - a question or a set of questions. It is often used in the plural - making a few enquiries about the price of train tickets. An inquiry has to come to refer to an investigation. It is commonly used in the singular - a court of inquiry launched an inquiry into the cause of the explosion. Source 'The right word at the right time a guide to the English language and how to use it'.
That having been said it wasn't a re run of the inquiry anyway it was a high court hearing into the legality of the outcome of the public inquiry.
The alternative if the high court outcome goes against the airport an application to replace the temporary terminal with a permanent terminal of the same capacity - discusions have been underway for some time ( see minutes of the consultative committee )
That having been said it wasn't a re run of the inquiry anyway it was a high court hearing into the legality of the outcome of the public inquiry.
The alternative if the high court outcome goes against the airport an application to replace the temporary terminal with a permanent terminal of the same capacity - discusions have been underway for some time ( see minutes of the consultative committee )
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Perhaps the question which needs to be resolved is whether the conditions under which CVT was revitalised a few years ago still exist.
The things which have changed are Thomsonfly's policy on scheduled/City flights, the credit sqeeze and Ryanair's base at BHX.
Coventry might have breezed past one or two of these but to survive all three will be mighty difficult - just how deep are the pockets of the property developers who are the present leaseholders?
The things which have changed are Thomsonfly's policy on scheduled/City flights, the credit sqeeze and Ryanair's base at BHX.
Coventry might have breezed past one or two of these but to survive all three will be mighty difficult - just how deep are the pockets of the property developers who are the present leaseholders?
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The alternative if the high court outcome goes against the airport an application to replace the temporary terminal with a permanent terminal of the same capacity
However, always swimming against the tide and trying to get permission for the 2 million pax terminal thats already been refused and possibly would never get used, is costing them one hell of a lot of time and money, and has apparantly caused them to take the eye off the ball - their existing customers are slipping away
Question is, can the airport, limited at 1 million pax, ever pay its way, or is there some critical level of throughput at which it becomes economic? Id be surprised if that magic level just happened to be between 1 and 2 million. Possibly 2 million throughput will just allow them to lose more money, and the whole planing permission thing is a side issue to the main problem: the airport never has made anyone any money..
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Just to clear up about Tfly at CVT, the aircraft can make more money elsewhere. Next years routes may be strategically reduced in the near future.
Now that we have dropped all the short routes except JER, 4 sector days are no longer a reality. 'W's will involve a crew change at some point in the UK (or down route if we ever do 3-sector days).
Ryanair's 737-800s will have performance difficulties with CVT (wet runway) unless the loads are limited to 140-ish pax. As they also have a BHX base, why bother with CVT?
Easyjet would probably have a load of applications (and Tflys overcrewing would be solved) if they decided to open a base at CVT!!
Now that we have dropped all the short routes except JER, 4 sector days are no longer a reality. 'W's will involve a crew change at some point in the UK (or down route if we ever do 3-sector days).
Ryanair's 737-800s will have performance difficulties with CVT (wet runway) unless the loads are limited to 140-ish pax. As they also have a BHX base, why bother with CVT?
Easyjet would probably have a load of applications (and Tflys overcrewing would be solved) if they decided to open a base at CVT!!
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An enquiry is a request for information....etc..etc etc
An enquiry is a request for information....etc..etc etc
The main point still remains....Can they survive a negative outcome.
It's draining money away from the airport and the only people making money are the lawyers.....
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Has the Edinburgh-Coventry cargo run finished now? It was run by Atlantic using a Miniliner Fokker 27 - this F27 is now used on NCL-BRS which Miniliner have won from Atlantic. So has the EDI-CVT stopped or has someone else won it? 
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heard a rumour today, cvt has the go ahead for terminal.......... but wdc has declinded some of the points the high court had made . this is a rumour, but if true what is wdc objecting to these points. i would of thought cvt gets permission and worry about the points at a later date. dont know if anyone else has heard anything........... p.s my b'day today, the trouble and strife wants to take me for a city break. any sugg's??
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I'd be amazed if this rumour was true.
As far as anyone knows, Mr Justice Thayne Forbes reserved his judgement and stated he would give his decision in writing at a later date.
As the hearing didn't finish until the 26th July and the High Court broke up for 2 months holiday on the 1st August it's a bit unlikely a High Court decision would be rushed out in five working days.
No decision was expected before October and in any case the appeal was made on the grounds that the planning refusal was 'flawed in law' so a successful appeal would result in the application having to be reconsidered by the Secretary of State which would probably push the whole thing into 2009 anyway.
As far as anyone knows, Mr Justice Thayne Forbes reserved his judgement and stated he would give his decision in writing at a later date.
As the hearing didn't finish until the 26th July and the High Court broke up for 2 months holiday on the 1st August it's a bit unlikely a High Court decision would be rushed out in five working days.
No decision was expected before October and in any case the appeal was made on the grounds that the planning refusal was 'flawed in law' so a successful appeal would result in the application having to be reconsidered by the Secretary of State which would probably push the whole thing into 2009 anyway.
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West Midlands International Airpark?
The current economic downturn might bring some extra business to Coventry airport. With the current high price of oil several airlines are planning to ground aircraft during the winter period. Coventry Airport is offering parking for some of these aircraft on a short or long term basis. Tom Freeman the head of business development at Coventry Airport said ' Coventry airport has ample space to acomodate multiple aircraft parking and is currently offering very competitive rates. We can handle most types of jets upto A320/B737 size'
Clutching at straws?
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Clutching at straws?
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parking space
Whereabouts are they going to park up A320s or B737s?
I thought the apron at CVT was relatively small, only about 8 stands. How much space will that leave Wizzair and Tfly?
Also, how much longer will Tfly be operating 737 300s as they seem to be going out of fashion elsewhere in the world? The 737 800 would be a bit of a squeeze on the apron if there are other aircraft stored on the other stands.
I thought the apron at CVT was relatively small, only about 8 stands. How much space will that leave Wizzair and Tfly?
Also, how much longer will Tfly be operating 737 300s as they seem to be going out of fashion elsewhere in the world? The 737 800 would be a bit of a squeeze on the apron if there are other aircraft stored on the other stands.
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CVT's (and other airports) costs may be increasing soon, there's a Transport Security bill going through Parliament after the break which will pass the policing costs from local councils on to the airports - bringing the regionals into line with LHR,LGW etc.
Some may see it as a levelling of the playing field
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Some may see it as a levelling of the playing field
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Parking Coventry.
There Is The Old Cross Wind Runway at COV Which they Could use for parking. often seen electras parked on it on the east side near Parcel Force. And then theres the other end near the control tower.
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CVT's (and other airports) costs may be increasing soon, there's a Transport Security bill going through Parliament after the break which will pass the policing costs from local councils on to the airports - bringing the regionals into line with LHR,LGW etc.
Some may see it as a levelling of the playing field
Some may see it as a levelling of the playing field
Are armed police present 24/7 at CVT?
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Cross runway parking
They might be able to use that runway if they shifted everything else off. Last time I was there they had 3 day stopping freighters and some of the based GA parked up.
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