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.... I see... I'll bow to your superior knowledge on same!!! Still think that they wpuld struggle to fill 2 x flts to Faro from Kerry over the Winter.... just can't see it!!
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If Ryanair decide to drop tbe Kerry -Dublin route which is very possible, they won't keep there base. They will operate all the other routes from there other bases.
It might be better if Aer Arann took the route up again. They have the right size aircraft for the route.
It might be better if Aer Arann took the route up again. They have the right size aircraft for the route.
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That means that passenger numbers on the route between Jan - May this year are down just under 2,000 passenger from the same time last year. Its a big drop for the first 5 months of the year
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PSO
Do the EU rules on PSO not state something about subsides are only until such times as surface transport links are improved or something as i vaguely remember somthing a while ago about DUB-BFS/BHD not being applicable as two existing EU funded projects linked the two cities, the railway upgrade and the Motorway work.
If that is the case I would say for sure thats the end of the PSO for most internal flights except maybe CFN.
Would much smaller a/c eg Jetstream/twin otter/B1900 etc make the route pay post no PSO grant? That is if you could get an operator to operate the routes.
If that is the case I would say for sure thats the end of the PSO for most internal flights except maybe CFN.
Would much smaller a/c eg Jetstream/twin otter/B1900 etc make the route pay post no PSO grant? That is if you could get an operator to operate the routes.
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From what I have heard PSO gives alot of money back to the airports. Aer Arann pays full handling and landing fees to the airport for PSO routes.
I remember Ryanair kicking up a fuss at Kerry as to why they were being charges different rates for Dublin when they took over PSO compared to the other destinations they operate.
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I remember Ryanair kicking up a fuss at Kerry as to why they were being charges different rates for Dublin when they took over PSO compared to the other destinations they operate.
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...its about €70 to go on the train from Cork and Irish Rail gets XX millions of euros of taxpayers monies. And that doesn't guarantee you a seat.
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Sikipupi, with booking online its possible to go to Cork return for 20 euro, plus you get a reserved seat. If you reserve a seat and it is taken and no other seat is available you are entitled to a refund for that part of the journey
Personally I prefer to get the train- Sometimes the RYR experience is a bit too much...
Personally I prefer to get the train- Sometimes the RYR experience is a bit too much...
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Fuve...if you book Ryanair well in advance/Travel off peak days / off peak flights - you can get €5 including taxes fares during Special Offer promotions on Ryanair to Dublin. At once stage there were offering 1cent fares on the Cork route!
I agree with the 'Ryanair Experience' comment though!
I agree with the 'Ryanair Experience' comment though!
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But once you factor in getting to and from the airport in Dublin and Cork, it's rarely faster or cheaper.
It's grand if you're connecting in Dublin or if your destination is around Swords, Malahide, Santry etc., but otherwise it doesn't really offer anything better.
However, in terms of the viability of Dublin-Cork as a route, I'd say the fact there is a motorway the whole way between the two cities now has a substantially bigger effect than a train service which is slower than it was a decade ago.
It's grand if you're connecting in Dublin or if your destination is around Swords, Malahide, Santry etc., but otherwise it doesn't really offer anything better.
However, in terms of the viability of Dublin-Cork as a route, I'd say the fact there is a motorway the whole way between the two cities now has a substantially bigger effect than a train service which is slower than it was a decade ago.
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Should Aer Arann not operate Cork-Dublin as Aer Lingus Regional with timings to allow feeder to the US and elsewhere have a better chance - I read somewhere that a key finding of a survey in the cork area was the need for a US service. Proper co ordination might be the next best thing (though the rest of the day for the aircraft would still be an issue)
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Originally Posted by clareview
Should Aer Arann not operate Cork-Dublin as Aer Lingus Regional with timings to allow feeder to the US and elsewhere have a better chance - I read somewhere that a key finding of a survey in the cork area was the need for a US service. Proper co ordination might be the next best thing (though the rest of the day for the aircraft would still be an issue)
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Personally I'd prefer to fly up and down rather than drive. I accept the motorway is outstanding but it's still 5 hours solid driving on a day return plus the time it takes to get to and from the Red Cow intersection to the City. It's all the petty Ryanair rules that have put people off flying. No need for most of them on short domestic flight.
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Well said clareview..I'd go further and ask why do they not integrate with all their flights ex-Dublin?
For example, this winter Aer Lingus are cutting their flights from Cork to Geneva from 3 per week to a weekly service despite high loads last year. Why not offer flights with Aer Lingus regional via Dublin in addition to their direct services from Cork?
If Aer Lingus are really serious about making Dublin a hub, they really need to work with Aer Arann implementing connections for all destinations ex-Dublin for all the Aer Arann/Aer Lingus Regional flights.
For example, this winter Aer Lingus are cutting their flights from Cork to Geneva from 3 per week to a weekly service despite high loads last year. Why not offer flights with Aer Lingus regional via Dublin in addition to their direct services from Cork?
If Aer Lingus are really serious about making Dublin a hub, they really need to work with Aer Arann implementing connections for all destinations ex-Dublin for all the Aer Arann/Aer Lingus Regional flights.
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EI Franchise agreement
Hi there, does anyone have any info on the franchise agreement between RE and EI in terms of how the commercial terms of the relationship works? I'm aware that RE perform the operational elements of the flights, but how does each party benefit and who controls the route selection and yield management- do EI retain a percentage of the revenue received from sales of each seat before passing the remainder to RE, or do EI effectively charter the ATR's off RE, paying them a set fee regardless of pax or yield?