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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 15:22
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thats a risk, but depends on what FR launch. I'd hope SNN have also learnt their lesson and not depend too much on one carrier. Neil Pakey seems to be clued in enough.

"Major announcement" could mean a couple of sun routes too..
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I'm pretty certain that Ryanair are going to appear to play ball with the Government, especially with early route announcements after the departure tax was reduced to 0.

Overall, the reduction must be worth around 20 million to them and they aren't going to jeopardize that for a few sun routes.

Give it 6 months and you might see some of the routes quietly replaced with sun routes though.
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Great potential news for Snn best of luck to all good news for handling agents duty free staff and fuelers ect ,from an ex fr Shannon pilot now based in Germany after the introduction of Bertie's tax
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We shall see tomorrow what management have learned, my guess would be 2 more aircraft based and doubling of passengers from the current 500,000 to 1 million. Mix of routes to cater for all but I am inclined to agree with 840 post.

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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 22:26
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Ryanair at Shannon

It'll be interesting to see which routes Ryanair bring back, and whether they decide to try any that they haven't had a go at before.

Between 2005 and 2008 Ryanair tried just about every route imaginable, before binning the vast majority of them and cutting the base back to the current list: Alicante, Lanzarote, Liverpool, Gatwick, Stansted, Malaga, Nantes, Palma, Tenerife and Wroclaw.

At the peak in 2008, Ryanair was flying 20 departures a day with 6 based aircraft, compared to only 5 daily departures and one aircraft now. They should have data about which routes (if any) were profitable, which should allow them to avoid the risk of trying untested routes.

Here's the list of dropped routes (I may have missed a few as there are so many):
Beauvais, Bergamo, Birmingham, Biarritz, Bournemouth, Bristol, Carcassonne, Rome Ciampino, Charleroi, Dublin, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Faro, Fuerteventura, Gdansk, Girona, Hahn, Krakow, Katowice, Kaunas, Leeds Bradford, Lubeck, Lodz, Luton, Madrid, Manchester, Murcia, Newcastle, Niederrhein, Skavsta, Prestwick, Riga, Berlin SXF, Turin, Treviso.
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It'll be interesting to see which routes Ryanair bring back, and whether they decide to try any that they haven't had a go at before.

Between 2005 and 2008 Ryanair tried just about every route imaginable, before binning the vast majority of them and cutting the base back to the current list: Alicante, Lanzarote, Liverpool, Gatwick, Stansted, Malaga, Nantes, Palma, Tenerife and Wroclaw.

At the peak in 2008, Ryanair was flying 20 departures a day with 6 based aircraft, compared to only 5 daily departures and one aircraft now. They should have data about which routes (if any) were profitable, which should allow them to avoid the risk of trying untested routes.

Here's the list of dropped routes (I may have missed a few as there are so many):
Beauvais, Bergamo, Birmingham, Biarritz, Bournemouth, Bristol, Carcassonne, Rome Ciampino, Charleroi, Dublin, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Faro, Fuerteventura, Gdansk, Girona, Hahn, Krakow, Katowice, Kaunas, Leeds Bradford, Lubeck, Lodz, Luton, Madrid, Manchester, Murcia, Newcastle, Niederrhein, Skavsta, Prestwick, Riga, Berlin SXF, Turin, Treviso.
FR said there SNN base wasn't viable before the major reduction so this time they will go for targets they can meet.

Routes that I think will return will be:
Milan BGY
Paris BVA
Barcelona (GRO or BCN)
Brussels CRL
Krakow
Bristol
Frankfurt
Possible somewhere else in south France and another Polish.

They will increase flights to Malaga, London, Liverpool, Palma.

Big question is will they be able to resist SNN-FAO route if they start it Aer Lingus will drop it (good news for ORK) and Brussels is very possibly and this could also affect EI at ORK.

It hard to call as a spate of touristy routes from both ORK and SNN won't work long term that's if ORK will get something from this but if they directly or indirectly target EI/EIR it could be good for ORK as EI will leave.

As you say they have tried just about every route possible so they will most likely stick to what was somewhat viable as going to those places that failed in the good times now would just be poor management.

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Old 24th Oct 2013, 06:00
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"doubling of passengers from the current 500,000 to 1 million"

Seems to be the figure doing the rounds


live stream if anyone wants it Corporate Announcement From Shannon Airport

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Old 24th Oct 2013, 09:18
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200k seats to Berlin, Munich, Paris, Warsaw, Krakow, Faro, Nice, Canaries in 2014 and 300k in full year of 2015. Extra STN services.

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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:08
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So they have taken on EI on the Faro route will be interesting alright seeing as it done so well for EI last year. Now lets see what they actually can bring to Cork, Berlin would be a great addition to Cork miss that route since EI dropped it!!
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:10
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disappointed they went with Faro tbh, but good news overall.
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 10:34
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Ha ha "Paris", the neck on them!

But seriously will there be any new aircraft based in Shannon or will the routes be served by aircraft based elsewhere?
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 18:01
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Michael Cawley said a 2nd aircraft was likely.
Yes a second one being based.

1 route weekly (FUE)
4 routes 2 weekly (BER, KRK, NCE, WAW)
3 routes 3 weekly (BVA, FMN, FAO)
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 09:54
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hearing there will be some more news for Shannon in the next week or so...
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 12:22
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At least post the rumoured news.
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Old 31st Oct 2013, 22:44
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Emirates at SNN

Emirates SkyCargo A6-EFJ passed through SNN early this morning routing LAX-CVG-SNN-DXB. Was just thinking wouldn't it be nice if we had a transit stop with pick-up rights from the states to DXB even twice a week. It would really open up the west of Ireland.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 10:05
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Interesting to see Aer Lingus using 319 on Shannon London Heathrow route..
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 13:54
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Interesting to see Aer Lingus using 319 on Shannon London Heathrow route..
Indeed, they are doing an aircraft swap to an A320 today to be able to operate the Lanzarote flight, it would seem Lanzarote is working well for them as the load dictates an A320 to operate it!
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 14:26
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320 only today to bring the higher loads home because of the mid term.
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 16:37
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Could any one see a Luton route in the next year
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Old 2nd Nov 2013, 20:16
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Flew back from LHR on EI 358 this afternoon and certainly wasn't an A319. Landing was "interesting" to say the least. Floated down the runway with first wheel contact at the western end of Shannon Aerospace whilst moving laterally across the runway.
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