FJE B767's?
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The advert said that they had 767s joining the fleet. It's about the millionth time that they have said they will be getting 767s and they never appear despite various promises and the charterers of FJE flights wanting a larger aircraft. You can never get all of the bags on a 757 on the flights that FJE do.
And as for the rest of the positions advertised in Flight this week they are not needed because FJE is expanding but instead because so many people have left. I'd heard from friends who are still there that the two head pilots had resigned and I guess those are the jobs advertised in Flight.
Flyjet is a mess of an airline. Steer well clear.
And as for the rest of the positions advertised in Flight this week they are not needed because FJE is expanding but instead because so many people have left. I'd heard from friends who are still there that the two head pilots had resigned and I guess those are the jobs advertised in Flight.
Flyjet is a mess of an airline. Steer well clear.
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Can anyone expand on the quote that
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Is anyone flying for the airline as either a crew member or as a passenger and is able to vouch for this quote? I've noticed that they do have a fairly bad punctuality record, but I've heard of a few people flying from their MAN base who thought the onboard service was excellent.
I'd be interested to know opinions from pax & crew
Flyjet is a mess of an airline. Steer well clear.
Is anyone flying for the airline as either a crew member or as a passenger and is able to vouch for this quote? I've noticed that they do have a fairly bad punctuality record, but I've heard of a few people flying from their MAN base who thought the onboard service was excellent.
I'd be interested to know opinions from pax & crew
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Isnt 757 and 767 cockpits very similiar - easier for pilot training?
But in general they are regarded as the same type from the flightdeck perspective once the course is done, and you can hold on to a 767 rating (once differences course is complete) just by doing alternate sim checks every six months (e.g. 757 in January, 767 in June). In other words, without actually flying a real 767 on a regular basis.
The differences, from a pilot perspective, can be found here.
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Interesting little operation, FlyJet. They appear to have arrived and just got on with the job.
The ad in flight talks about expansion, and I understand they have been talking about 767's for a little while. But by my reckoning, at least three of the positions advertised are AOC post-holders, making me wonder (1) why the incumbents have left and (2) what the CAA think of a wholesale change of key management personnel.
If ever you are interested in checking a company's progress and development, a great source of information is usually the Companies house website, where company accounts are published. However, interestingly enough, Flyjet are seriously overdue in filing their accounts, which is a bit worrying, from both a staff and customer point of view.
Finally, a google search threw up this FAA link detailing an application for traffic rights into the US.
This makes interesting reading, as it shows a set of accounts ( uncertified), showing Flyjet made a small profit on operations , but appears to be missing some significant costs ( crew being one) from the report.
All in all, Flyjet appears to be a bit of an enigma at the moment. Maybe someone on the inside can provide some answers, and some clues to the future plans. Or maybe someone down south can provide an insight into current operations.
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The ad in flight talks about expansion, and I understand they have been talking about 767's for a little while. But by my reckoning, at least three of the positions advertised are AOC post-holders, making me wonder (1) why the incumbents have left and (2) what the CAA think of a wholesale change of key management personnel.
If ever you are interested in checking a company's progress and development, a great source of information is usually the Companies house website, where company accounts are published. However, interestingly enough, Flyjet are seriously overdue in filing their accounts, which is a bit worrying, from both a staff and customer point of view.
Finally, a google search threw up this FAA link detailing an application for traffic rights into the US.
This makes interesting reading, as it shows a set of accounts ( uncertified), showing Flyjet made a small profit on operations , but appears to be missing some significant costs ( crew being one) from the report.
All in all, Flyjet appears to be a bit of an enigma at the moment. Maybe someone on the inside can provide some answers, and some clues to the future plans. Or maybe someone down south can provide an insight into current operations.
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I worked as cabin crew for FJE for just under a year and it was the worst experience ever. My point about it being a mess of an airline was from my own experiences of it. It was really dis-organised with no proper crewing/ops support, aircraft interiors were really shabby, serious catering problems on every flight and delays almost every day.
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Would the crew costs not be shown in the accounts because FJE's crews are all paid through another company? You are not employed by FJE but by a company based in Jersey which I think was called Sky Management. The contract gives you so few legal rights that I'm surprised it isn't illegal itself.
I worked as cabin crew for FJE for just under a year and it was the worst experience ever. My point about it being a mess of an airline was from my own experiences of it. It was really dis-organised with no proper crewing/ops support, aircraft interiors were really shabby, serious catering problems on every flight and delays almost every day.
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Would the crew costs not be shown in the accounts because FJE's crews are all paid through another company? You are not employed by FJE but by a company based in Jersey which I think was called Sky Management. The contract gives you so few legal rights that I'm surprised it isn't illegal itself.
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Flyjet are a good company to work for. Things have got so much better, lets face it, every new airline has teething problems! the current aircraft have had new seating put in, there dont seem to be catering problems anymore, we have our own 24hour crewing department, and we have been busy this winter operating many routes.
I know we have been recruiting this week for more crew, and it appears we need a large number of cabin crew due to expected fleet expansion and the fact we have much more work in the pipe line. This will be most certainly be 767 and maybe more 757s who knows! I guess it all comes down to finding a suitable aircraft at the right price!.
The thing that makes flyjet a nice place to work is the people, its nice to go to work and enjoy your day. As with other operators, I guess we will find out about a new aircraft when it has been signed and delivered to Flyjet. Until then im happy as we are.
I know we have been recruiting this week for more crew, and it appears we need a large number of cabin crew due to expected fleet expansion and the fact we have much more work in the pipe line. This will be most certainly be 767 and maybe more 757s who knows! I guess it all comes down to finding a suitable aircraft at the right price!.
The thing that makes flyjet a nice place to work is the people, its nice to go to work and enjoy your day. As with other operators, I guess we will find out about a new aircraft when it has been signed and delivered to Flyjet. Until then im happy as we are.
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Doors to Manual,
Irrespective of what method FJE use to pay crew, the costs have to be shown somewhere in the accounts.
A crew would cost around £220K per annum , so if you are running with 12 crews you're looking at £2.4M or so. Maybe I'm missing it somewhere but I can't see it in the accounts anywhere.
Would still be interested in why they key AOC Post Holders have moved on. Were they consultants maybe?
And why no acounts have been filed. I think Companies get fined these days for late accounts.
Irrespective of what method FJE use to pay crew, the costs have to be shown somewhere in the accounts.
A crew would cost around £220K per annum , so if you are running with 12 crews you're looking at £2.4M or so. Maybe I'm missing it somewhere but I can't see it in the accounts anywhere.
Would still be interested in why they key AOC Post Holders have moved on. Were they consultants maybe?
And why no acounts have been filed. I think Companies get fined these days for late accounts.
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So, how does that work.
Are you employed by an agency that is "owned" by Flyjet based abroad?
Why do this, unless it's to somehow bypass UK employment law?
How do the working conditions and contract terms differ from a normal UK contract of employment?
I'd especially like to hear how it affects Cabin Crew.
T.E.D.
Are you employed by an agency that is "owned" by Flyjet based abroad?
Why do this, unless it's to somehow bypass UK employment law?
How do the working conditions and contract terms differ from a normal UK contract of employment?
I'd especially like to hear how it affects Cabin Crew.
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I don't know if the Jersey company is owned by FJE or not but I always suspected it was. The contract basically means that you sign away a lot of your rights under UK law and because its based in Jersey outside the EU, they can do so without it being illegal. Just about all of the new EU rules about temporary contracts, leave etc are carved out which they would not be able to do if your contract was direct with FJE. It was a big source of unease and discontent for the cabin crew.
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How come the FJE accounts are available via the FAA website if they haven't been registered at Companies House? I thought that UK companies had to register their accounts every so often, and so why would FJE not register them in the UK but publish them in the USA?
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How come the FJE accounts are available via the FAA website if they haven't been registered at Companies House? I thought that UK companies had to register their accounts every so often, and so why would FJE not register them in the UK but publish them in the USA?
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DTM,
The accounts filed with the US have the words DRAFT written all over them, and probably don't meet the requirement of Audited Accounts required for Companies House.
I don't know why FJE have not filed their accounts with Companies House but I think they will have started getting fines by now.
It's all a bit strange when coupled with the replacement of some their senior AOC managers.
The accounts filed with the US have the words DRAFT written all over them, and probably don't meet the requirement of Audited Accounts required for Companies House.
I don't know why FJE have not filed their accounts with Companies House but I think they will have started getting fines by now.
It's all a bit strange when coupled with the replacement of some their senior AOC managers.
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The 767 to FJE chat has been going on for AGES now and quite frankly is getting a little tiring.
Can ANYONE out there from FJE give us any more info please !!!!
Are these comning or not
Can ANYONE out there from FJE give us any more info please !!!!
Are these comning or not
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I talked to a friend still at FJE today and it all sounds to be worse than it was before. There is no sign of a 767 although talk of a third 757 for the summer but no-one seems to know where its coming from. The 767 would be a lot better for the Ghana flights as the baggage on those flights is no joke but there are now rumours that another airline is taking over this "star" route from FJE if you know what I mean.
There seem to be problems with something about pension payments and confusion over FJE or the Jersey company making them for the crew and no-one seems to know whether the pension payments have been made or not.
The DFO and senior training captain have both resigned but don't know where they are going.
There seem to be problems with something about pension payments and confusion over FJE or the Jersey company making them for the crew and no-one seems to know whether the pension payments have been made or not.
The DFO and senior training captain have both resigned but don't know where they are going.
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Ok Doors to Manual stop this right now !!!!!
You worked for FJE in the past, you didnt like it and you have left.
If you could now stop trying to damage things for the people still there.
Your views sound bitter and your information is out of date and wrong.
Of course it has had teething problems, it is still a very young company but it is improving every day. The people there are working very hard to continue the development. Developing it is with new promotions new recruits and now some of the best paid flight crew and cabin crew in the industry. I have seen the summer schedule with new aircraft included and its very encouraging.
So could you leave the company alone now to get on with it.
You worked for FJE in the past, you didnt like it and you have left.
If you could now stop trying to damage things for the people still there.
Your views sound bitter and your information is out of date and wrong.
Of course it has had teething problems, it is still a very young company but it is improving every day. The people there are working very hard to continue the development. Developing it is with new promotions new recruits and now some of the best paid flight crew and cabin crew in the industry. I have seen the summer schedule with new aircraft included and its very encouraging.
So could you leave the company alone now to get on with it.
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Hoey5o,
Very commendable of you to highlight the good aspects of working for FJE. Over on the Cabin Crew Forum , your colleagues are busy explaining their disquiet at being cointracted to a Jersey Company with no protection under UK employment laws. Any comment on this?
If some of these issues are genuinely just sour grapes from disgruntled ex- employess, then fine. They will be seen as such. But the resignation of your two senior Pilots ( if true), the absence of filed accounts ( now 7 months overdue) and no outside visibility of the " expansion" that is talked about, leaves new potential employees a little concerned.
And FJE, having just placed an expensive Advertisement in Flight magazine looking for senior, experienced personnel, leave themselves open to this level of scrutiny.
Very commendable of you to highlight the good aspects of working for FJE. Over on the Cabin Crew Forum , your colleagues are busy explaining their disquiet at being cointracted to a Jersey Company with no protection under UK employment laws. Any comment on this?
If some of these issues are genuinely just sour grapes from disgruntled ex- employess, then fine. They will be seen as such. But the resignation of your two senior Pilots ( if true), the absence of filed accounts ( now 7 months overdue) and no outside visibility of the " expansion" that is talked about, leaves new potential employees a little concerned.
And FJE, having just placed an expensive Advertisement in Flight magazine looking for senior, experienced personnel, leave themselves open to this level of scrutiny.
