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Hi
Well according to the downloadable brocher version from thomson holidays web-site they will be no flight from eaither Leeds/Bradford, Humberside or Doncaster-Sheffiled Airports for summer 2006.
Well according to the downloadable brocher version from thomson holidays web-site they will be no flight from eaither Leeds/Bradford, Humberside or Doncaster-Sheffiled Airports for summer 2006.
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We will still see sun express as they are flying for thomas cook and is still planned like that for next year.
XLA are also planning a saturday salzburg for inghams holidays but this may now have changed to a thomsonfly flight. got that xla information from 1st editions.
Just been looking on the Kosmar website and new route to preveza for summer 2006
Sunday flight
XLA4520 07.00 out
XLA5426 15.10 return
dont know where xla are getting all these extra aircraft from?
XLA are also planning a saturday salzburg for inghams holidays but this may now have changed to a thomsonfly flight. got that xla information from 1st editions.
Just been looking on the Kosmar website and new route to preveza for summer 2006
Sunday flight
XLA4520 07.00 out
XLA5426 15.10 return
dont know where xla are getting all these extra aircraft from?
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re-reading a NCL airport press release, I see that the position on Easy a/c No 7 will be known at the end of September.
Has anyone heard anymore about this or, if it happens, which routes it might fly?
Has anyone heard anymore about this or, if it happens, which routes it might fly?
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Probably having to wait until Servisair invest in enough ground equipment to handle the extra aircraft first, seeing as they can't even manage the 6 we currently have. Pretty piss poor show really.
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Probably having to wait until Servisair invest in enough ground equipment to handle the extra aircraft first, seeing as they can't even manage the 6 we currently have.
First mess, aircraft parks on stand next to terminal in what is now domestic. Result can't walk to terminal (10 yards !) got to wait for bus for scenic tour.
Second mess, opened two doors & could only muster up only one bus ! (after 7 minutes of shut down), which took the front half of passengers. The other half sitting in rear may still be there for all I know!
I appreciate that its down to the airport rather than Serviceair, but I've constantly made the point that NCL, for a "top 10" UK airport with passenger levels approaching 5 Million, it is totally unacceptable to have only 2 air brigdes.
This fragmented parking issue of international vs. domestic area is not something new, it used to happen regularly on the evening BHX inbound when I was commuting, albeit one hardly required 2 buses, yet still often took considerable time for one to arrive to transport 15 persons 15 yards !
Also incredibly there are supporters on this thread that suggest that the parking facilities are adequate & that the "numbers stack up". But as said it's not simply the numbers but appropraite available areas.
I'm awaiting with interest as to how they are to deal with AA. Without airbridges, with the secure areas now required for US aircraft then this may present more problems ?
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The stand you are referring to is stand 2 and its about 30-50 metres walk to the gate from there, even if you have of been allowed to walk up there you would have had to go back into departures and then through about 4/5 doors to take you into international arrivals to pass customs/immigration, something that is a big no no due to customs/immigrations rules.
Coaching was late as the stansted was running off schedule(aswell as the GVA) pulled onto an off pier stand just before yourself (with only 4 staff from airport providing coachin and ambu-lift cover) 2 were doing coaches and two on your aircraft with the ambulift. Hence the delay with coaches - For once nothing to do with lack of servisair staff.
The reason for you being on stand two is to allow, or to at least attempt to allow, ontime departures for the first wave with tactical stand allocations so that there is minimum coaching/disruption to affect ontime departures, this may unfortunately mean night stopping aircraft not necessarily allocated an international/domestic stand. Incidentally, your aircraft was off to Belfast the morning after, therefore stand two was appropriate as it is closest to gate two which is used for all Belfast/Republic of ireland flights and IOM.
Coaching was late as the stansted was running off schedule(aswell as the GVA) pulled onto an off pier stand just before yourself (with only 4 staff from airport providing coachin and ambu-lift cover) 2 were doing coaches and two on your aircraft with the ambulift. Hence the delay with coaches - For once nothing to do with lack of servisair staff.
The reason for you being on stand two is to allow, or to at least attempt to allow, ontime departures for the first wave with tactical stand allocations so that there is minimum coaching/disruption to affect ontime departures, this may unfortunately mean night stopping aircraft not necessarily allocated an international/domestic stand. Incidentally, your aircraft was off to Belfast the morning after, therefore stand two was appropriate as it is closest to gate two which is used for all Belfast/Republic of ireland flights and IOM.
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Having worked at the airport last year...alot of the blame doesnt always fall down to servisair or swissport, but it is us who get the blame on the most part from passengers... it is instead down to the airport or other authorities within.
Immigration is one issue...often there can be people all the way back down the arrivals channel waiting to pass through immigration with one person at the desk.
A lack of moving walk ways on international arrivals is also a gripe amongst passengers.
too few staff on buses and ambulift.
A lack of stands and poor seating outside gate 2 when u have a EZY BFS and a big LHR or other EZY landing can be chaos.
Immigration is one issue...often there can be people all the way back down the arrivals channel waiting to pass through immigration with one person at the desk.
A lack of moving walk ways on international arrivals is also a gripe amongst passengers.
too few staff on buses and ambulift.
A lack of stands and poor seating outside gate 2 when u have a EZY BFS and a big LHR or other EZY landing can be chaos.
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You won't ever see moving walkways at NCL. Given their diabolical record of fixing even minor faults with fairly simple equipment, a busted walkway would be out of operation up until the invention of affordable personal jetpacks or teleportation. At least carpet doesn't break (except all the broken bits badly repaired with hideous stripey gaffer tape).
Bet the Yanks will be bowled over with our delightful facilities, and the ones who aren't............well, the Yanks aren't notorious for their endless whinging are they?
"Care to comment on your airport experience sir? Oooh, we seem to have run out of leaflets."
Bet the Yanks will be bowled over with our delightful facilities, and the ones who aren't............well, the Yanks aren't notorious for their endless whinging are they?
"Care to comment on your airport experience sir? Oooh, we seem to have run out of leaflets."
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AA will use stand 10 and BA will be moved else where.
So presumably if this were the case then this is just highlights that a third airbridge is essential for AA's use whether existing or new ?
What I find hard to accept is that the issue of a stand for AA "where ever" has not already been resolved being fundamental to their operations & if so what has been offered to them ?
Topjet
Thanks for your response detailing the technical issues involved. I was already aware of some of these, but I was taking the view of the consumer who grows tired with the same categories of excuses. I appreciate it was late at night & maybe staffing levels were stretched, but basically I\'m having a go at the airports "fixed resources".
The issue re customs & lack of access to international arrivals located just 30 metres (if that) from stand 2 except by a scenic bus tour has existed for years. It\'s not my problem as a consumer that it hasn\'t been resolved, but it should have !
It was also myself some months ago who was informed on this thread that Easy Jet prefer stairs to air bridges as they can off load passengers more expeditiously (clearly not from my experience).
Funny how GVA don\'t subscribe to the same view, they could easily have used one of their remote parking stands & 2 steps but chose in preference to make use of airport airbridge resources. Presumably they were capable of working out how much less it costs them in labour in not providing staff to give scenic airport bus tours in the middle of the night !
My view as a consumer is that NCL is a pretty much second rate when it gets down to the basics of passenfer handling, irrespective as to whether or not they now have a much better departure lounge & "shopping mall".
As a postscript I note the comment of "Maude Charlee" re walkways, I too would doubt NCL\'s operational capabilities in maintaining such an installation, given the number of times I have witnessed problems with the baggage conveyors at the checkin\'s in the original building.
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When trying to book a Ryanair flight from NCL, Verona Brescia is on the list of destinations, but when you put in a date it seems to come up with no flights available. A mistake or another Ryanair destination for NCL?
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Ryanair Verona
Milan is closed for a couple of days in October and flights are to/ from Verona instead, so thats probably why its shown as destination on web site. However it would be nice to have Verona as a new "scheduled" destination.