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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 01:11
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DC_9version1.****e, is, and in their previous version was, a bigot. Nothing has changed. Stick to what you know. That way you'll never learn.

Second Dog. Extract yourself from the Lego bubble you appear to inhabit and engage brain in a world which is real. The cost, time and inevitable public enquiries which will delay the A5/6 likely mean Belfast will have a spaceport before Derry has a dual carriageway to anywhere useful.

It's amazing that not only the NI Executiive, but also the LONDON GOVERNMENT believe LDY worthy of help and investment. Perhaps some of you lot should petition for a revision of partition. That'd shift the bill to a different jurisdiction.
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Oh dear, someone is starting to throw their toys out of the pram but regardless of your personal opinion of DC9 he has a point.

I lived in NI for about 35 year years, 25 of those in County Londonderry within 30 miles of the Maiden City, I've only ever been in Londonderry 4 times in my life. I've probably been through it hundreds of times on the way to Donegal but i've only actually set foot in the place a few times because there was just no reason for me to go there and unless its changed dramatically within the last decade i'm not sure why anyone would say "lets go for the day".

As for Eglinton/CoDA the only flying i've done there has been in light aircraft and i've never once thought of booking a commercial flight. Now i'm not saying that's the norm but i only know one person who has actually booked a flight from EGAE so there is definitely an issue with the place that makes the travelling public of NI give it a body swerve and fly from Belfast/Aldergrove instead.

There will be more subsidies over the coming years in the hope that something works because, as someone pointed out earlier, it's just too darn expensive to build the motorway linking the City to the Capital which could help revitalise the area. Nobody wants to see the Airport fail but surely at some point a time must come when even it's most diehard supporters realise that it has.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 08:58
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As Tower Ranger says EGAE has to all intents and purposes already failed but will not be allowed to die due to political reasons.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 09:12
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Originally Posted by cuthere

Second Dog. Extract yourself from the Lego bubble you appear to inhabit and engage brain in a world which is real. The cost, time and inevitable public enquiries which will delay the A5/6 likely mean Belfast will have a spaceport before Derry has a dual carriageway to anywhere useful.
Nonsense. The dualling of the A8 was a colossal project that was funded despite there being very little need for it economically. But it great that they have done it.

It's amazing that not only the NI Executiive, but also the LONDON GOVERNMENT believe LDY worthy of help and investment. Perhaps some of you lot should petition for a revision of partition. That'd shift the bill to a different jurisdiction.
The LONDON GOVERNMENT will happily help pay for LDY as a vanity project to stop the republicans from getting upset and causing any break in the 'peace process' I think it is you living in an alternate universe if you don't understand the motives that run this part of the world.

That different jurisdiction you mention has no more interest in footing the losses for Derry than do the LONDON GOVERNMENT. That is why support for a border poll is miniscule in said jurisdiction.

Your juvenile sniping with DC is evidence that you are mired in the great game of NI in just wanting handouts for your interests rather than coming up with positive overall solutions that may require some sacrifice.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 09:25
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Cuthere, I would be very mindful of accusing someone of being a bigot on an open forum. A bigot I am not, it seems you don't like the truth and will scrape the barrel to use insults and accusations if people don't agree with you. If you are an example of people from Derry, no wonder no-one wants to go there. Underlying bitterness, who hates everything east of the Bann.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 09:38
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Having always tried to be neutral until now I feel given recent posts that I have no option but to mention the elephant in the room.

There seems to be an element of sectarianism in recent posts and to my mind a bizarre suspicion that LDY is some sort of Irish Republican plot. It's just an airport and there are tens of thousands unionists who live in the local area and for whom this is their local airport.

But further afield I wonder is part of the problem with the airport not so much an unofficial boycott but at least a chill factor among some in the unionist community against using an airport that is named "City of Derry airport" as opposed to "Londonderry airport" and against using an airport that is deemed to belong to the main nationalist city in the North.

I don't think any of this is fair nor logical as I have never heard of anyone complaining that there has been any discrimination against either community by the airport and I would also point out that the airport code is "LDY" and I have never heard any calls for that to be changed.

I hate to be so blunt but I do detect an issue here so I think whether you agree or not we should be able to discuss it maturely and calmly.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 09:58
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Originally Posted by Amelia Earhart
Having always tried to be neutral until now I feel given recent posts that I have no option but to mention the elephant in the room.

There seems to be an element of sectarianism in recent posts and to my mind a bizarre suspicion that LDY is some sort of Irish Republican plot. It's just an airport and there are tens of thousands unionists who live in the local area and for whom this is their local airport.

But further afield I wonder is part of the problem with the airport not so much an unofficial boycott but at least a chill factor among some in the unionist community against using an airport that is named "City of Derry airport" as opposed to "Londonderry airport" and against using an airport that is deemed to belong to the main nationalist city in the North.

I don't think any of this is fair nor logical as I have never heard of anyone complaining that there has been any discrimination against either community by the airport and I would also point out that the airport code is "LDY" and I have never heard any calls for that to be changed.

I hate to be so blunt but I do detect an issue here so I think whether you agree or not we should be able to discuss it maturely and calmly.
I'd hate to think that would be the case. I would if pushed say i was from the what locals term the PUL community and have no issues using CoDA. In fact i will be availing of it next weekend.
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That's the lesson you need to give to Cuthere. I am not a bigot and I'm far from that. My family are very much mixed and hail from both the Shankill and New Lodge Roads in Belfast. Our family roots are from Castledawson Moyola Bridge, county Londonderry. I have had Ian Paisley and Peter Robinson on flights, whereby Ian told Peter off for being an arrogant **** with the crew. I've had Michelle Gildernew and Martin Mcguinness and . I have to say both were brilliant. I make no assumptions of people and I certainly am not a bigot.
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Tower Ranger. You did well living 30 miles from the city of Derry, whilst still living in county Derry. Bellaghy was it?

DC_version.12. I'm afraid I say as I see. The Oxford English Dictionary definition of bigot is:
a person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions

You're utterly intolerant of the views of others on here, unless those views tie in with your love-in with BFS and all that fly from there. I've read all your posts and there is a common theme. Now. Answer the questions I asked you in an earlier post. Either do that, or stop addressing me on here.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 10:35
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Glass houses I'm afraid again Cuthere. Intolerance, ignorance and probably not very well educated as you keep coming back sniping for more, then retort to abuse which could possibly come back to bite you when someone dident agree with you. I see you were on the BHD tread also making stupid sarcastic remarks. Get back on your tractor and take your frustrations out doing a laps of the field you live in.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 10:54
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Post 3148, DC. Any answers?

Actually. Reading your post again, it's clear yours is a parody account. Therefore. Enough.

Amelia, reading your post, you're spot on. No doubt I've not helped by giving oxygen to people like the above. My apologies - back to aviation.
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Which you obviously know nothing about.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 12:57
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Originally Posted by Amelia Earhart
Having always tried to be neutral until now I feel given recent posts that I have no option but to mention the elephant in the room.

There seems to be an element of sectarianism in recent posts and to my mind a bizarre suspicion that LDY is some sort of Irish Republican plot. It's just an airport and there are tens of thousands unionists who live in the local area and for whom this is their local airport.

But further afield I wonder is part of the problem with the airport not so much an unofficial boycott but at least a chill factor among some in the unionist community against using an airport that is named "City of Derry airport" as opposed to "Londonderry airport" and against using an airport that is deemed to belong to the main nationalist city in the North.

I don't think any of this is fair nor logical as I have never heard of anyone complaining that there has been any discrimination against either community by the airport and I would also point out that the airport code is "LDY" and I have never heard any calls for that to be changed.

I hate to be so blunt but I do detect an issue here so I think whether you agree or not we should be able to discuss it maturely and calmly.
Elephant in the room? Sectarianism? I haven't seen any.

I feel it is entirely possible to associate the strivings of a political group with pleasing a high proportion of their electoral base. I also think it is entirely possible that those strivings are not in the best interests of a prosperous future for the country as a whole.

Once again we are back to a standard NI defence mechanism of the green or blue card (because BHD is as much a Unionist vanity project as LDY is a Republican one)

This is why we will never get anywhere and why infrastructure projects that should make the country better are held up for years to please one group or t'other.

Consumers will for the most part use the product that is cheaper for them regardless of politics (hence why there are so many card carrying unionists who will happily use DUB)

I just happen to believe there is a strategy for consolidating the marketplace at BFS to try and provide as cheap an option as possible to take back some of the 2 million folk from NI who take their business to another country for travel.

I see that all as logical thought rather than having to bring belief systems into it.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 15:29
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BHD a unionist vanity project with Shamrocks in and out daily
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 17:09
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
BHD a unionist vanity project with Shamrocks in and out daily
Another example of the lack of sectarianism in the grand scheme of things.
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Old 23rd Sep 2016, 17:52
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Sectarianism is not really applicable here either at all.

Derry isn't acheiving its potential and I still can't see why.
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Old 24th Sep 2016, 08:28
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It's not achieving its potential because FR sniff an opportunity of a huge subsidy to maintain or grow traffic and to play BHD off against LDY.

When you sleep with dogs... LDY should target EasyJet or EIR to assume services.
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Papers reporting Flybe looking at a LHR link....
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LGW maybe at a push.

LHR? Never. How would flybe even get the slots?
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This appears to be a non story. It is predicated on the 3rd runway expansion and wouldn't happen until 2021 at the earliest.

LDY needs routes before then......
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