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How on earth would a second runway being built in crawley offering flights for the south of London and coastal areas impact majorly on Luton?
I can see the competition with STN for certain routes but Gatwick? If you could elaborate on your reasoning I would appreciate the view.
I can see the competition with STN for certain routes but Gatwick? If you could elaborate on your reasoning I would appreciate the view.
LGW with a 2nd rwy would have oodles of spare capacity compared to LTN's 80%. Loads of new slots (allocated 50% to incumbents 50% to new entrants) would be available. The ending of the secondary slot market would also be beneficial.
So unless LGW managers do something stupid like hiking charges up over the odds it could well be attaractive to some carriers currently at LTN.
Not to mention by the time it gets done the world would have passed through an ice age and we would probably all have evolved wings of our own.
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Don't think anyone up here will be losing too much sleep in the next 10 years.
If Stansted gets their expansion and Luton ends up at 20 million plus all three airports could/will have spare capacity. If Luton loses out then so be it but AENA is the worlds largest airport operator so I think they will know how to deal with any threat.
If Stansted gets their expansion and Luton ends up at 20 million plus all three airports could/will have spare capacity. If Luton loses out then so be it but AENA is the worlds largest airport operator so I think they will know how to deal with any threat.
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If Stansted gets their expansion and Luton ends up at 20 million the airspace around London will have to change!
Sun Express twice weekly - nice coup for Luton!
Sun Express twice weekly - nice coup for Luton!
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Easyjet have major plans for long term expansion at Luton, Wizzair go from strength to strength.. a few other airlines do their random little part like. Atlas, Blue & Elal. A few more of those kinds of airlines complimented by swathes of executive jets will be the future. Who knows what Monarch are upto and if it will work out long term but Ryanair and Thomson have neglected LTN for ages. I still dont see who would be a huge loss to LGW. The first 2 I mentioned wont be going anywhere. If FR or Thomson left I dont think they would be very difficult to replace.
Good news on the sun express.
Good news on the sun express.
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If FR or Thomson left I dont think they would be very difficult to replace.
Luton is in a very unusual situation for a large airport when it comes to the charter traffic front, with Thomson as the only charter carrier really flying from the airport.
(There might be the occasional weekly charter with other airline, but nothing significant.)
While the glory days of Britannia at the airport are way behind us and Luton will play second fiddle to the larger regional airports for Thomson, they will continue to fly from here for years to come. Especially while Thomson head office is down the road and airline has offices and hangars at the airport.
Is it still the airlines HQ?
Thomson's base at the airport is still larger than many other UK airports they fly from.
Their flights nearly always fly full, and have a loyal following from regular seasoned passengers who use the airport. I have also noticed prices from Luton on flights regularly command a premium to other airports Thomson fly from on the same dates, with higher supplements on the same package holiday.
Even Monarch who have had a significant presence at the airport for years, haven't offered a decent charter programme in ages, with Cosmos just selling seats on their scheduled services. For the last few years their only charter flight was to Zakinthos, while at the likes on LGW, BHX and MAN the scheduled and charter programmes have co-existed.
It would be a real coup for the airport to attract the likes of Thomas Cook Airlines, but with them recently expanding at Stansted - basing another aircraft there this year and long hauls from next year. I think this is unlikely.
I think it is more likely before Thomson ever leave Luton, they would close their Stansted base first, and focus north London operations from here.
With regards to Ryanair, I think the base is more vulnerable than Thomson... (But I am not in anyway saying it is under threat.) Having AENA now as the airport owners, and Ryanair having a significant bases at their airports in Spain, I suspect Luton will do everything within reason to keep them and might even try to tempt them into growing the base, in years to come. Especially when their is so many new aircraft on order and only limited places they can be deplyed!
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Ryanair and Thomson combined account for 16% all all passengers which is still a sizable amount. I would think they would be sorely missed if they went but I can't see that happening.
With a bigger Luton the airport would be keen to see more activity from these airlines. Why would they want to leave a rapidly expanding airport?
With a bigger Luton the airport would be keen to see more activity from these airlines. Why would they want to leave a rapidly expanding airport?
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Is there actually any suggestion that Ryanair or Thomson might think about moving from Luton?
Ryanair have maintained a small but solid base of 4 planes for a long time now. The routes must be profitable or they wouldn't continue and of course next year, flights to Copenhagen will join the existing routes.
Thomson similarly have maintained a small 3 aircraft base which whilst much smaller than some other bases is still bigger than many. I dont see why Thomson might consider leaving Luton. If anything, there's surely more of a case for them to grow at Luton than to decline or disappear.
Ryanair have maintained a small but solid base of 4 planes for a long time now. The routes must be profitable or they wouldn't continue and of course next year, flights to Copenhagen will join the existing routes.
Thomson similarly have maintained a small 3 aircraft base which whilst much smaller than some other bases is still bigger than many. I dont see why Thomson might consider leaving Luton. If anything, there's surely more of a case for them to grow at Luton than to decline or disappear.
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This on the Gatwick thread
"La Compagnie are apparently looking to acquire LGW slots to fly LGW-EWR next year on an all business class 757, though they appear to be also considering STN and LTN. Could be interesting to see how this goes if it happens"
Could Luton be a serious contender for this potential service, taking us back to something akin to the old Silverjet days?
"La Compagnie are apparently looking to acquire LGW slots to fly LGW-EWR next year on an all business class 757, though they appear to be also considering STN and LTN. Could be interesting to see how this goes if it happens"
Could Luton be a serious contender for this potential service, taking us back to something akin to the old Silverjet days?
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Looking at the arrivals board which shows flights up to 14:30 there are 22 flights from the former Eastern block and 17 flights from everywhere else.
There is also not a single charter flight in that list. 11 years ago there were no flights from Eastern Europe so Luton has seen a massive change in the type of passengers it now handles.
There is also not a single charter flight in that list. 11 years ago there were no flights from Eastern Europe so Luton has seen a massive change in the type of passengers it now handles.
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If the UK government does eventually manage to restrict immigration from within the EU or indeed leave the EU, this could have a profound effect on Luton's operations especially with Wizz
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Don't think it would have any effect at all. People that are already here could stay and still have a right to bring their entire families over.
It could curb a potential increase in frequencies of some existing Luton routes if there was a drop off in new migrants but as the BBC reported 272,000 new immigrants came to settle in the UK in the 12 months to June 2014 from non EU countries where there is suppose to be strict limits which is greater than the EU figure.
It could curb a potential increase in frequencies of some existing Luton routes if there was a drop off in new migrants but as the BBC reported 272,000 new immigrants came to settle in the UK in the 12 months to June 2014 from non EU countries where there is suppose to be strict limits which is greater than the EU figure.
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Sun Express - Owned by Lufty and THY. Could we see more from further collaborations in future?
Luton must be Busting it's marketing budget to get the new LoCo into Bedfordshire? New airline brand to be announced by Lufthansa soon?
Luton must be Busting it's marketing budget to get the new LoCo into Bedfordshire? New airline brand to be announced by Lufthansa soon?
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http://www.airport-world.com/news/ge...on-starts.html
http://www.airportsinternational.com...-airport/16275
Includes a new somewhat strange logo
http://www.airportsinternational.com...-airport/16275
Includes a new somewhat strange logo