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"But who owns ZagrosJet.......anyhow it is not going to happen in the current scenario in the region."
Others seem to have more confidence - Iraq Airways recently started two services to Manchester including one to Erbil.
"But who owns ZagrosJet.......anyhow it is not going to happen in the current scenario in the region."
Others seem to have more confidence - Iraq Airways recently started two services to Manchester including one to Erbil.
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Luton airport hatches plan for high speed London rail link - Travel Industry News and Travel Jobs from Travel Weekly - www.travelweekly.co.uk
For the long term what it proposed will cost millions and will no doubt need another extension of the franchise.
Seeing how many years the existing airport upgrade has been talked about any meaningful replacement for the shuttle buses will be at least 10 years away.
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More detailed story here.
Luton Airport reveals plans for direct rail line to central London | Daily Mail Online
Worth remembering that the unused part of the tunnel that is about to be turned into a road was built to take a transit system and has sat there unused since 1999. Now a new tunnel or bridge would have to be built adding to the final cost.
Luton Airport reveals plans for direct rail line to central London | Daily Mail Online
Worth remembering that the unused part of the tunnel that is about to be turned into a road was built to take a transit system and has sat there unused since 1999. Now a new tunnel or bridge would have to be built adding to the final cost.
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Frequency, speed and day to day operating costs will have to be looked at and ultimately how much will the different options cost to build. Also who is going to pay for it will probably be the deciding factor. The airport has greatly benefited from the improvements to Airport Way at a cost of £30 million and it didn't cost the airport a penny.
If they got rid of the conductor and doubled the number of buses would a rapid transit system be much quicker?
If they got rid of the conductor and doubled the number of buses would a rapid transit system be much quicker?
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The problem with any dedicated rail link would be where to terminate it. The aspirational 20 minute journey time rules out incorporation into Thameslink. St Pancras has no spare terminal capacity.
Can't see it happening.
Can't see it happening.
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The airport are looking at more East Midland Mainline trains stopping. At the moment one of their trains stops each hour. That could easily be increased as most pass without stopping but if they did they would all offer a non stop service to London.
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Yes several years ago when Parkway was first built plans were either for a Maglev style system, funicular or Cable Car.
The Cable car idea ended up being the cheapest although cheap wasn't actually that cheap I gather.
The talk of a heavy rail link didn't work then for terrain problems and I can't see how it can work now.
Question then as now is where would it terminate at the Airport. as Ltnman says the unused section of the underpass was originally planned to take it but that's now no longer available.
Would it have to terminate outside of the underpass in say the Mid term car park?.Surely it isn't possible to go high above the taxiway and then come down inside the CTA.Airport safety regulations?
It's a interesting problem and it will be fascinating to see what options actually end up being available to them.
Yes several years ago when Parkway was first built plans were either for a Maglev style system, funicular or Cable Car.
The Cable car idea ended up being the cheapest although cheap wasn't actually that cheap I gather.
The talk of a heavy rail link didn't work then for terrain problems and I can't see how it can work now.
Question then as now is where would it terminate at the Airport. as Ltnman says the unused section of the underpass was originally planned to take it but that's now no longer available.
Would it have to terminate outside of the underpass in say the Mid term car park?.Surely it isn't possible to go high above the taxiway and then come down inside the CTA.Airport safety regulations?
It's a interesting problem and it will be fascinating to see what options actually end up being available to them.
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Where there is a will there is a way but the cost will be huge. Remember which direction the approach road used to face pre 1999. Now it links directly to the M1
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We've seen lots of easyjet growth through new routes. I wonder if there's potential for even more growth through expansion of existing routes - Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Berlin, Zurich, Rome all spring to mind?
Anyone have any info around the Luton-Vigo route ? I'm aware that it started last week, operates twice per week and as a seasonal route is due to close at the end of September. I'm trying to figure out whether it has a chance of returning for summer 2016
I'm also aware that Vigo is losing its year-round route to Paris in October (Peugeot have a large car factory near Vigo), so imagine the airport / local Govt will be keen not to lose any more routes. Of course, with the much larger Santiago de Compostela airport only 100 km from Vigo city centre, Vigo airport management are going to have a bit of a challenge on their hands
I'm also aware that Vigo is losing its year-round route to Paris in October (Peugeot have a large car factory near Vigo), so imagine the airport / local Govt will be keen not to lose any more routes. Of course, with the much larger Santiago de Compostela airport only 100 km from Vigo city centre, Vigo airport management are going to have a bit of a challenge on their hands
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Declared stand capacity for winter 2015-16
Aircraft Parking Capacity
Cargo Flights
Cargo flight scheduling will be subject to the following aircraft parking limitations, any movements over and above these limitations will be by prior arrangement only.
2x Size 5 (A300, B767)
2x Size 6 (A330 only)
1x Size 6-7 aircraft (B77F, 747) may be accommodated by prior arrangement. Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 8 aircraft (A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
Non FBO
Scheduling will be subject to the following aircraft parking limitations, any movements over and above these limitations will be by prior arrangement only.
4x Size 5 (A300, B767)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321)
1 x Size 3b (A321 but not B738 with winglets)
5 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets but not A321)
3 x Size 2b (up to A320)
5 x Size 2a (up to A319/B737 without winglets)
Total 32 aircraft
3 stands Size 3b (A321) are kept as stand reserve and not made available for scheduling purposes without specific prior agreement
Total 35 stands
Permitted Variations
3 additional Size 5 (A300, B767) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 6 Size 3a/3b (B738w, A321) aircraft.
2 additional Size 4 (B757) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 4 Size 3b (A321) aircraft.
A single Size 6 (except A345) or Size 7 (MD11 only) aircraft can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 3a/3b (B73H, A321) aircraft.
Restrictions
Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Other Size 6 and size 7 aircraft (A345, B747 variants) can be accommodated by prior arrangement or in emergency situations. Such accommodation will result in temporary reduction in capacity for 3 Size 3a/3b (B73H, A321) aircraft.
Size 8 aircraft (A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
Maintenance Flights
Movements of aircraft visiting for maintenance may be accepted over and above the parking limitations shown above but only if early removal into a hangar is guaranteed.
Cargo Flights
Cargo flight scheduling will be subject to the following aircraft parking limitations, any movements over and above these limitations will be by prior arrangement only.
2x Size 5 (A300, B767)
2x Size 6 (A330 only)
1x Size 6-7 aircraft (B77F, 747) may be accommodated by prior arrangement. Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 8 aircraft (A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
Non FBO
Scheduling will be subject to the following aircraft parking limitations, any movements over and above these limitations will be by prior arrangement only.
4x Size 5 (A300, B767)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321)
1 x Size 3b (A321 but not B738 with winglets)
5 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets but not A321)
3 x Size 2b (up to A320)
5 x Size 2a (up to A319/B737 without winglets)
Total 32 aircraft
3 stands Size 3b (A321) are kept as stand reserve and not made available for scheduling purposes without specific prior agreement
Total 35 stands
Permitted Variations
3 additional Size 5 (A300, B767) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 6 Size 3a/3b (B738w, A321) aircraft.
2 additional Size 4 (B757) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 4 Size 3b (A321) aircraft.
A single Size 6 (except A345) or Size 7 (MD11 only) aircraft can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 3a/3b (B73H, A321) aircraft.
Restrictions
Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Other Size 6 and size 7 aircraft (A345, B747 variants) can be accommodated by prior arrangement or in emergency situations. Such accommodation will result in temporary reduction in capacity for 3 Size 3a/3b (B73H, A321) aircraft.
Size 8 aircraft (A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
Maintenance Flights
Movements of aircraft visiting for maintenance may be accepted over and above the parking limitations shown above but only if early removal into a hangar is guaranteed.
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winter 2014-2015
This is last winter. Cargo seems to have gained a stand for this winter but I don't know where from. Actually I thought there were only 2 cargo stands.
Other stand capacity is the same at 35 but aircraft types are a little different.
Aircraft Parking Capacity
Cargo Flights
Cargo flight scheduling will be subject to the following aircraft parking limitations, any movements over and above these limitations will be by prior arrangement only.
1x Size 6 (A330 only)
1x Size 5 (A300, B767)
1x Size 6-7 aircraft (B772, MD11 B747) may be accommodated by prior arrangement.
Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 8 aircraft (B748, A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
4x Size 5 (A300, B767)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321 with winglets)
5 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets)
8x Size 2b (A320 with winglets)
1 x Size 2a (A320 without winglets)
Total 32 aircraft
3 stands Size 3b (A321 with winglets) are kept as stand reserve and not made available for scheduling purposes without specific prior agreement
Total 35 stands
Permitted Variations
3 additional Size 5 (A300, B767) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 6 Size 3b aircraft.
2 additional Size 4 (B757) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 4 Size 3b aircraft.
A single Size 6 (except A345) or Size 7 (MD11 only) aircraft can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 3size 3a aircraft.
Restrictions
Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Other Size 6 and size 7 aircraft (A345, B747 variants) can be accommodated by prior arrangement or in emergency situations. Such accommodation will result in temporary reduction in capacity for 3 Size 3a aircraft.
Size 8 aircraft (A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
Other stand capacity is the same at 35 but aircraft types are a little different.
2x Size 5 (A300, B767)
2x Size 6 (A330 only)
2x Size 6 (A330 only)
Cargo Flights
Cargo flight scheduling will be subject to the following aircraft parking limitations, any movements over and above these limitations will be by prior arrangement only.
1x Size 6 (A330 only)
1x Size 5 (A300, B767)
1x Size 6-7 aircraft (B772, MD11 B747) may be accommodated by prior arrangement.
Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 8 aircraft (B748, A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
4x Size 5 (A300, B767)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321)
1 x Size 3b (A321 but not B738 with winglets)
5 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets but not A321)
3 x Size 2b (up to A320)
5 x Size 2a (up to A319/B737 without winglets)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321)
1 x Size 3b (A321 but not B738 with winglets)
5 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets but not A321)
3 x Size 2b (up to A320)
5 x Size 2a (up to A319/B737 without winglets)
3x Size 4 (B757)
11 x Size 3b (A321 with winglets)
5 x Size 3a (B738 with winglets)
8x Size 2b (A320 with winglets)
1 x Size 2a (A320 without winglets)
Total 32 aircraft
3 stands Size 3b (A321 with winglets) are kept as stand reserve and not made available for scheduling purposes without specific prior agreement
Total 35 stands
Permitted Variations
3 additional Size 5 (A300, B767) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 6 Size 3b aircraft.
2 additional Size 4 (B757) can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 4 Size 3b aircraft.
A single Size 6 (except A345) or Size 7 (MD11 only) aircraft can be accommodated through the use of MARS stands but there would be a temporary reduction in capacity of 3size 3a aircraft.
Restrictions
Some specific Size 7 aircraft types, namely A346 and B773, cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Other Size 6 and size 7 aircraft (A345, B747 variants) can be accommodated by prior arrangement or in emergency situations. Such accommodation will result in temporary reduction in capacity for 3 Size 3a aircraft.
Size 8 aircraft (A380, AN124) cannot be accommodated under any circumstances.
Size 1 aircraft (twin props/exec jets up to SW4) are excluded from any limitation.
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Ian Brooks - I cannot find any direct flights to Manchester, via Istanbul or Ankara yes.
ZagrosJet will know if there is demand for direct flights.
ZagrosJet will know if there is demand for direct flights.
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AN124
I remember when this aircraft landed at LTN on runway 08 and the airport fire brigade were positioned on standby though not responding to an emergency.
In turn as pabely stated it was positioned on the south stand as have other heavies such as the mighty 747's.
On a different topic, VLM appear to have handled an average 28 PAX per flight from LTN during June but still the NYC by La Compagnie service appears to not be mentioned on the flight data stats on the CAA website!
The CPH route for June handled 33097 PAX which is incredible.
With 6165 PAX having flown on the Istanbul service during June-I would say Atlas has proved to operate a successful route and may it continue.
I now believe the airport will handle 11.8 million passengers this year end.
In turn as pabely stated it was positioned on the south stand as have other heavies such as the mighty 747's.
On a different topic, VLM appear to have handled an average 28 PAX per flight from LTN during June but still the NYC by La Compagnie service appears to not be mentioned on the flight data stats on the CAA website!
The CPH route for June handled 33097 PAX which is incredible.
With 6165 PAX having flown on the Istanbul service during June-I would say Atlas has proved to operate a successful route and may it continue.
I now believe the airport will handle 11.8 million passengers this year end.