Never spoke or met LC, but met his assistants at one of the road show last year and they were very down to earth and straight to the point when asking questions which is always nice

If anyone knows of any swimmers being fished out of the pool in the last two weeks could you let me know - many thanks! (feeling a little left out......)

Things see to have gone very quiet over the past 6 weeks in terms of offers. Anybody in the know able to give any information to those of us in the pool?

Hi,


I have been invited to day 1. Could anyone kindly share which tests are currently in use on the day 1 assessment?


Thanks a lot!

Capacity test is the only computerised, verbal reasoning is straightforward now, standard numerical.

I'm hoping my pulse is strong enough....

Recent developments? One test has changed! One that was pretty ridiculous anyway.

Plastic787 very easy to sound high and mighty and make those that failed sound of a poorer standard, but trust me, someone who can pass a verbal test is not automatically a better aircraft operator. So to suggest that all you need 'nowadays is a pulse'....is a ridiculously arrogant statement, one I almost expect.

It's also an absolutely untrue statement. The recruitment team publish the success rate of candidates on Yammer, and a large percentage are still being turned away at each stage.

Didn't Plastic787 fail them the first time around?! :}

Seems tongue in cheek doesn't translate well to the written word! It seems some of those accusing me of egotism have a rather fragile ego if they're taking my comments seriously. In any case apologies for the offence caused by a throwaway comment (which was pertaining more to BA's high requirement for pilots at the moment rather than any comment on the standard of individuals)..

Well I take comments on face value, unless it's clear tongue and cheek was intended. Without knowing you and without reading every post you've ever written I was not going to assume anything. Don't have a fragile ego- don't even have an ego...just think those type of comments while pretending to be a complete joke are always laced with an undertone of true feelings from the person posting it. So don't really want to see it, and will gladly call someone out even if they use the excuse they were trying to be funny.

Totally agree with VJW - not passing which is my case I admit, but it does not make you any less significant, there are over hundreds of pilots in BA who come from airlines like BMI for example who didn't have to do the selections but yet very high standards pilots and a integrated asset within BA, some of the pilots at BMI when it was up and running attended BA and failed the selection but now integrated within the company post BMI and again are of high standards including pilots integrated directly from LGW Cityflyer after the year 2000, so the test does not prove anything but simply an excersise that you have to do in order to satisfy BA recruitment team.

I am sure if you make a very senior TRE Captain who has been in the company over 25 years and ask him/her to sit the selection they may not pass, does that mean they are not BA material, who knows maybe even if the pilot recruitment manager sat the test the results may or may not be favourable.

Funny you say that Club World. That has been done and the TRE or LTC whatever he was- failed!

Perhaps he didn't have a pulse?!

Offers?
 

Any Airbus guys getting offers recently? A few guys have mentioned 737 -> 777 offers recently...

I've been trying to book an interview slot but having no succcess. Has anyone else experienced this?

Yup- only having no success because there isn't any slots available. I try not to get frustrated every time I get an automated email questioning why I haven't booked a slot yet, and to do so soon...

For those that didn't make it through Day 2:
1) Anyone been called before 12 months for a re-assessment?
2) Do you have to go through the whole process again, i.e. Day 1 as well?

Is recruitment likely to continue till May '17?

Hey Sharklet

1) Unfortunately not although I would jump at the opportunity!
2) I wish we didn't but who knows, I'd rather be grilled by HR for 2 days

Hi all
I have been invited to attend the simulator assessment.
Could someone, who attended the sim assessment recently, give me any feedback or tips.
thank you very much

Angelo26. Review your soft skills and practice raw data,good luck.

Hi Phantom4,
thank you very much for your advice!

Hi Angelo,

I'm not sure which type BA are using at the moment, but this might help if it's a 757/767:

It has 2nd generation EFIS with an EADI and an EHSI which can display VOR/ILS full rose, expanded rose or Map.

The other flight instruments are conventional round-dial ASI, Altimeter, IVSI and DDRMI. The primary engine gauges are on the upper EICAS and are round-dial EPR, N1 and EGT.

If you have a brain fade:

60% N1 and 5 degrees nose up will give S+L clean at about 220kts;

65% and 4 degrees will give S+L with F5 at about 180kts; and

55% and 1 degree will give an ILS profile with gear down, F20 and about 155kts.

The main thing to watch is to keep it in trim! Very powerful thrust/pitch couple which can cause 'reverse trimming', e.g. on a go-around, you apply TOGA thrust and pitch to 15 degrees but you have to trim nose down to stop the attitude increasing further. Then, when you level off, lower the nose and reduce thrust to 65%, you have to trim nose up to stop the attitude reducing too much.

Please note that I am not rated on the 757/767 but have been rated on 737 and 747 and also have access to some 767 manuals which allow me to make 'educated guesses' regarding generic handling techniques. Good luck!

Angelo I did my sim 5 years back on 747. To my mind I was ropey handling wise at best. I'm Airbus rated as was my co-conspirator. We failed to land on either approach, forgot to get the weather and were briefing the Sid and approach into ema as we flew down it. BUT the one thing we did was stay calm, jollied each other along , laughed a little and stayed safe. We both got in. Don't sweat the big stuff , do your best but above all show them you are a calm , professional affable pilot who has a sense of humour under pressure. Good luck. Ps my trimming was abysmal.

Briefing a SID during an approach- there's hope for me yet ;)

Massiveheed

From the feedback I have had, from a number of people who have not got through the sim assessment, you would not get away with that now.

Feedback that they have received has been relatively minor points compared to what you have admitted to.

Different assessors look at things in different ways, though. They shouldn't - but they do.

IMHO the assessors are standardised and are looking at the same attributes and performance. They would not be given the task otherwise.

Cullin H

Have you been told that by one of the recruitment team/assessors or by some of their candidates?

What's the answer then?

I have to admit, that while I'm sure they are all very standardised and quite literally singing from the same hymn sheet, surely if someone were marginal for example of the pass/fail grade, are we suggesting that if they were examined by ever single recruiter in the sim, they'd all come to the exact same conclusion of either the pass or fail? Surely some times that person would pass and others they'd fail? You'd like the think the vast majority of the examiners would agree, but I'm sure there are people in BA who doing the exact same sim with a different recruiter wouldn't have passed and vice versa.

Hi Cullin,I think you are wrong.The assessors are of a very high calibre and very skilled CRMIs. The candidate is a strong contender and the position is to be a future British Airways Captain.BA are in the minority in giving a four hour detail to two candidates. If as you say,a candidate is marginal,would you pass them on that performance? The key to success is preparation.

Hi Eckhard!

Thanks for your advice!

Massiveheed, thanks for your tip!

For us with a rating not on the EASA license, when is the latest time that BA require you to transfer it?

I seem to recall LC telling us that it had to be done before your first day. I did my group session quite a way back though, so I'm open to correction! In my mind.... As soon as you get a 'successful email' get it converted ASAP! In case you encounter any (unlikely) problems.

Hey Guys,

I am invited to attend the first assessment day this week. (Verbal reasoning/numerical reasoning)

it´s almost impossible to read all of the 150 pages, could anyone be so kind and write a very short summary on what I can expect and any tips/advices?

Thank you very much and kind regards,
E170

E170,

Sorry to sound a little harsh ( OK, I'm not sorry) but why would someone who had been to an assessment day that they had fully prepared for, including reading this thread, and who had posted his tips a few pages/months/weeks ago bother wasting his time repeating themselves because you can't be bothered to read back through this thread.

Regards

binsleepen is totally spot on.

You may want to read through post number 325 page 17 and post number 2414 page 121

Taking time to look through this thread does pay off, from what I have seen so far is the following for day one.

.Flight Capacity test such as setting a virtual FMS and monitoring electrical pages and applying checklists, monitoring fuel and taking a snapshot every 2 minutes, setting waypoints, clicking on a possible TCAS on the ND, calculating how many miles to commence your descend when ATC gives you new levels etc.

.Maths tests with no data interpretation, but simple maths I think 25 questions but very time limited- again many examples on this and other threads

.New style Verbal reasoning test- maybe others who have been could be kind to give an example.

Another post had a link of what the test looks like post number 285 page 144
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ps...SQGz-Au-iWM%3A

I am sure your capable of doing further research and I will leave it at that.

Think I read all 146 pages (back then).... Twice over! You've got to want it, otherwise it's likely that you won't get it....

I'm going to help you out with a shortlist of things that are genuinely impossible:

1.Walking on clouds
2.Setting the moon on fire
3.Conducting a reasonable 2-way conversation with a Llama

Things that are fundamentally within the realms of possibility:

1.Reading stuff on pprune*
2.Passing BA selection**

**Possible link

Ad.2 wouldn't be entirely sure ;-)

Folks any swimmers in the pool care to pm me? Is it still around the 2 month mark or is it getting longer?
Only been 3 weeks so not too stressed but would be nice to know where the wind is blowing.

Colleague in pool since April,triple course September.
E170 PPPPPP take note

Hi everyone!

Has anyone who attended interview late last week had any news on the outcome yet?