Swing state - It's been said time and time again on this thread, all the information is there from a number of good posts. Do the research and go back through this thread. You'll get everything you need.

Have to agree with the EASA restrictions. It is really making it difficult doing swaps now. Even clashing via eMaestro is almost impossible unless you are picking up an African/ME trip.

Does anyone know the roster for a typical month on the A380? Report times, days off per month etc...

Thanks

Quick question regarding the 74 Sim check. Does the 747 have a FPV or "bird" for us Airbus types? If so are you allowed to use it for the Assesment?

Yes to the first (I think), an overwhelming no to the second.

Happy Easter everyone! Anyone who would like to share a fairly junior A320 roster and also shed some light on if the new EASA rules have affected your work greatly on short haul? PM or public, whatever floats your boat :) Thanks in advance!

LGW or LHR base?

Ah, of course I forgot something... :) LHR base please, if possible?

Hi all,
do you know what is,usually, the waiting time to get a reply after having applied as DEP?

My personal application - I'm sure this varies massively:
-25th November application.
-27th November notification of successful application.
-7th December assessment day 1+2 (A one off occurrence I believe having both days in one)
-8th Decemer notification of successful assessment.
-5th January 757 Sim.
-13th January notification of successful sim - entered into the hold pool.
-26th January given a start date to meet my notice period for my current employer.

Applied for LH DEP

Thx Jimboy, I was wondering how long it takes after the sim to get an entry date :ok:

In my case, Day 1 and 2 weren't combined so it took a bit longer:

- 11th December: Application submitted
- 7th January: Application Outcome
- 21st January: Aptitude tests day
- 26th January: Assessment Outcome
- 10th February: Interview and Group Exercises
- 11th February: Interview Outcome
- 2nd March: 757 Simulator
- 11th March: Sim Outcome
- ???: Still waiting for an entry date :0

Does anyone know how tax works on the various elements of pay? Salary taxable at basic/higher rate but what about sector pay (new flying pay allowance) and the time away from base payment? Do either attract any form of tax relief?

Sector pay taxed as normal. TAFB payments are undergoing HMRC review at moment but currently only 20% is included within your taxable income. Might change in a couple of months though.

Thank you very much Jimboy473,
That was very fast!!
I applied 6 day ago on SH fleet.... finger crossed!

Regards!

Hi
Does anyone have any info on the new recruitment process and verbal reasoning? Thanks
Copy of email below.


The intention is that we would request you to sit the new Verbal Reasoning test combined with our interview and group exercise element of selection. All other parts of your testing are currently valid.

Angelo26


'I applied 6 day ago on SH fleet.... finger crossed!'

I hope you double-checked your written offering!

How long can you delay going to interview before the application is scrapped?

It was one of the items they brought up in my feedback.

As above, one of the items discussed as a fail point in my feedback occurred during the 10 min unassessed practice, if what you say were entirely true, then surely it shouldn't have been brought up?

Yes he did give feed back after the circuit was over, and I did not make the same mistake again, which is why I was surprised it was brought up as a fail item during the feedback call.

I was pleased to get that far at my first ever attempt, and from what I hear, it's quite rare to get that far, let alone get a job offer at the first go, so I've just got to take it on the chin and try again when I can.

:ok:

Can anyone confirm whether the flight management scenario gives instructions to descend in feet per minute or feet per mile?

Many thanks,
UK

Feet per nautical mile

When I did the test they used this I found on the website

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ps...SQGz-Au-iWM%3A

Any guys on here entered the hold pool recently and waiting for an offer....?

Anyone been emailed to come back within the 12 months had a reply yet?

Question regarding CAP,

Sorry, after trawling through dozens of pages, I havent found a clear answer on this.

But if you don't make CAP, what happens?

If the company has built your roster, nothing. If you have built it using bidding, then if you are a long way short, your bids get wiped, then the company write your roster, and that's all. If you're only a bit short, say 5 hours, then they dock 5 hours pay that month. But you can always then pick up overtime to get that cash back, or not, depends how you feel.

Hey guys

To add another question... I am in the middle of the assessment process (day 2 coming up) and looking for information on BA longhaul lifestyle. How would a 'typical' 777 roster look like nowadays? I couldn't find any recent posts about this topic.
Any info is highly appreciated (days off per month, 777 vs other fleets etc)

Take care everyone
lhchris

VxYx

As Lead says if the company has built your roster = Blindline, then don't worry about CAP, you're paid as if you'd achieved it (aka "pay protected").

If you are building your roster = Trip line = then you must reach a specified monthly minimum by end of Stage 2. Used to be CAP - 15 hrs on Longhaul, (not sure where it is this week with the various alleviations that are in play, CAP -10?). If you don't get above the minimum then your line is "wiped" of trips ( hence this minimum level is known as "wiping level") and you become a Blindline holder (rostered by company, pay is protected).

If you are successful in being above wiping level but are still below CAP after Stage 2 then:

1. If you are short of CAP with enough available hours in the bank from previous months to cover the shortfall then sufficient banked hours are withdrawn to get you up to CAP......but see warning 1 below.

2. If you are below CAP with insufficient hours in the bank to get back to CAP you are a "Nett Low Bidder"(NLBer) :bored: This is generally not regarded as a "good thing" and life now gets very complex ...one of several things may happen:

If you are very close to CAP you may simply get away with roster being left intact and pay being docked, as Lead described.

OTOH if it's a sizeable shortfall the company will add work to your line, or use a combination of removing and adding of trips to get you nearer to CAP ( that might mean ending up above CAP).

(A very belated history note: This whole NLBer d..... dance was brought in about 10 years ago to stop people consistently bidding below CAP, month after month. The compensation was the introduction of the Aspirational Part Time contracts).

Warning 1: Nowadays in any event the company can put extra work on your line at the final stage of roster build if you've left a nice gap (regardless of whether you've made CAP or not )...

and

Warning 2: Bidline is going in perhaps less than two years, so there's no point in getting too hung up on the details.

I'm eligble to reapply again at the end of the month but unfortunately it appears the vacancies are no longer advertised. Anyone know if long haul recruitment will be opened up again in the near future?

Wiggy,

A couple of months ago i was 40 mins below CAP with no time in the bank after stage 2 and was rung up by pre-ops to ask which other trip I would like. I told them I didn't want to do another whole day at work for the sake of 40 mins. I asked them to doc me 40 mins pay. They told me I had to either except another trip or be wiped as they don't doc pay anymore, so I told them to wipe me.

In the end my blind was of less credit than the trip line they wiped. Go figure.....

Regards

binsleepen

Yep, I was aware of there's the possibility of a "return to blindline" if you're a NLBer but I was aware my post was getting so long winded that I'd already either confused most people or bored them stiff so left it out....

As for what happened to you ...please note I never claimed at any time that scheduling always use logic or common sense ( I know you that)!:ok:

Out of interest are you able to say if they did the classic of wiping you but leaving you with most of your original trips? FWIW that's what happend to me last time I was wiped.....

Once on a blindline, Can you book single day leave on the LH fleet?

And how easy/difficult is it to book a single day leave once the roster is out?

You don't get single days of leave under Bidline on any fleet.

Annual Leave days are only granted in multi day blocks, with your dates known several months ahead of time. Trying to protect a single day from duty for whatever reason (e.g. concert, sport, family event) is very difficult, even for the most senior, even on Trip lines, unless that day is embedded in a block of annual leave or is one of the fixed days off at the front of a Reserve Line..

You can express a Blindline preference for a day(s) off before rostering for the month starts, which might be taken into account when the Blindline is built. No promises.

You can't.

Once your final final roster is published you can see your working days and your days off. The assumption is you then plan your social arrangements to fit in with the published days off. At that late stage you can't suddenly try and book a leave day to get rid of a duty - if that facility existed it would be a very handy and very very popular way for pilots to get rid of nasty trips from their lines and it would be chaos in scheduling/current ops :oh:!

Your last minute options if you really have to get a day off that has been clobbered by a published duty would be to:

1. Trip swap with a colleague or swap with an uncovered trip still held by ops ( but lots of caveats apply to the latter case) ,

2. Ask scheduling if it is possible to cash the trip in against the hours in your bank, if you have enough, or,

3. In exceptional circumstances ( e.g. a family crisis, not because you've got tickets to something) the company may grant you compassionate leave.

Protecting single days off has always been a problem when working Bidline and it has got much more difficult over the years. If you believe the promises :oh: single days leave, nominating and protecting single days off, etc, might be something that appears in a limited way under JSS.

4. Throw a sickie (run the risk of entering/progressing through AMP stages).

I hear rumours of direct entry captain on the A320 for those with type ratings, I find it hard to believe but any truth to this ?

Question asked of the resourcing team only last week and the answer was a
definite no.

TopBunk..

You may think that, I couldn't possibly comment :oh:

In any event as you say it could have long term consequences.

Exactly Wiggy!

I never did it, honestly, no really, I didn't (now retired).

However it always remains an option. The problem is that if they know you having been looking at all options and none succeed, and then you throw a sickie .......

Sometimes it may be more advisable to remain below the radar!

Which is precisely why sickness has rocketed. People no longer make any effort to swap - they just go sick. In fact if they really need the time off, they dont even bid for it because they know they will only get roster assigned and then really be on the radar if they go sick. The company wonders why sickness has jumped so much. This is the reason in a nutshell! Our managers manage costs not people, and by not considering the human element of the equation they just jump from one unintended cosequence to another. I am convinced they would run the airline an awful lot more cheaply if they would only start thinking about the humans they are employing.

Hi all,

I am due to attend the initial assessment soon. Just wondering if anyone has done it recently, by that I mean in the last week or so. I have heard on the grapevine that the Pilapt test (numbers counting down, flying cross-hairs with the joystick and the shapes and colours test) have disappeared? Is this fact or fiction? Can anyone help!?

Thank you!

A mate of mine has just got a direct entry long haul position and he only had to answer ONE question. It went like this: your roster says your flight departs at 2100Z, the station briefing says pick up time from the the hotel is departure time -1h25, time difference is UTC -6 hours. When will pick up be in local time? He got it right and now he's in! Amazing.