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Cumulo Calvus 16th June 2011 13:14

Management didn't bother coming to my base. We must be one of the ones they're going to close if we dare vote against the company's latest and pitiful attempt to pull the wool over our collective eyes.

SmilingKnifed 16th June 2011 14:41

Calvus, it may have been due to them being fogged in on Fraggle Rock a couple of nights ago. I'm told they were unable to change their tickets despite protestations of, 'don't you know who we are?'

mad_bob 16th June 2011 14:51

Hahahahaha....SK I so hope that is true :E

Whispering Giant 16th June 2011 16:00

They could'nt be bothered to visit there own 'Home' Base crew at EXT either..

SmilingKnifed 16th June 2011 17:02

This late in the game unless I'm specifically rostered to see them, with a DP and appropriate rest period after as per the scheduling agreement, I have no interest in hanging around a crewroom when I don't have to.

redED 16th June 2011 17:43

We only heard of our base visit a day or two before. Could this be to hold off any counter actions by BALPA?

redED 16th June 2011 17:46


Question:

FlyBe buying Cimber Sterling?


Regards,
Google News has suggested flybe have shown an interest, seem to be scowering Europe to find anyone to buy!

salsaboy 20th June 2011 18:51

Bored bored bored
 
*yawn*

:zzz:

BluffOldSeaDog 20th June 2011 19:07

waiting waiting, no rumors, BALPA are quite correctly airtight running up to the next meeting next Wednesday

SmilingKnifed 20th June 2011 21:21

I just hope this is a meaningful exercise, based on a few home truths having been told on the base visit and with a view to a full settlement. I fear it's more a stalling tactic.

AA5-A 21st June 2011 15:35

I just hope this isn't one of their delaying tactics. Almost 2 weeks for another meeting? or am I just being paranoid?

twinboom 21st June 2011 20:07

I guess JF plus boy wonder prior engagements at Le Bourget and Jim McA busy with the Bearded One's big jet drivers?

Serenity 23rd June 2011 15:35

Share price down over 7% today to 167 pence.

What's going on??

Union and management last ditch meetings looming?
Possible IA ballot?
Indecision on distribution of jet and other fleets?
Something else entirely????
:confused:

salsaboy 28th June 2011 23:44

*cough*bump*cough*
 
Anyone seen any ballot papers yet?
I haven't?!
Apparently an announcement could be imminent.
Including a 'solution'

*holds breath*
:\

BluffOldSeaDog 29th June 2011 07:22

If you'd read all the comms coming from the company and Balpa you would have noticed that the next meeting is today, so hopefully yes, an imminent announcement of major concessions based on the Jim Mc letter to JF from a couple of weeks ago

flyingcamel 29th June 2011 09:33

I fully expect nearly all terms to be met, and then magically the smaller bases (eg INV, ABZ, LGW) will start to close in order to save them money.

Of course set against an 'announcement' that the pilots are to blame because they are greedy buggers.

Awesome.:ok:

SmilingKnifed 29th June 2011 12:04

But that would fly in the face of what Jim French said, which was (to paraphrase :E )

'We're committed to ensuring pilots are based in the regions. In fact, it's flybe's sole reason for existing. We're like a homing centre for displaced regional pilots. We never allow a healthy one to be put down. How could I sleep at night knowing that some of our pilots weren't able to drive just round the corner to spend 55 hours off with their (probably lovely) families? Buckets of cash you say? What buckets of cash? Shut up!'

Cumulo Calvus 29th June 2011 12:14

I'm more concerned about today's NOTAC saying I can only fill my coffee cup up to 3/4 full.

What's the hedge cost of hot water these days? We can all make a difference.

SmilingKnifed 29th June 2011 12:20

Notac? Water? I'm not into work for another couple of hours. Do tell!

Cumulo Calvus 29th June 2011 12:32

SK - don't want to ruin the surprise. Just make sure you follow the new procedures when you pass the coffee to your colleague on the flightdeck! :ugh:

SmilingKnifed 29th June 2011 12:37

I'll file it with the Notacs on always wiping front to back and avoiding yellow snow :hmm:

assymetricdrift 29th June 2011 13:17

Well I never...

Better make sure we all get extra large cups on the Company Credit Card...

SmilingKnifed 29th June 2011 13:27

I've already got you a Tommee Tippee one! I'll send it via company mail today ;)

AA5-A 29th June 2011 16:38

DO for me today, so not been in today. It's 17:30 and still no news through email!!! Anybody heard anything yet?

Pizzaro 29th June 2011 16:48

Email has been sent

AA5-A 29th June 2011 16:54

was it sent by company or balpa? I still havn't received it.

assymetricdrift 29th June 2011 16:58

I haven't got it yet either... Waiting with baited breath...

AA5-A 29th June 2011 17:05

Just received it through balpa, not read it yet though.

assymetricdrift 29th June 2011 17:10

Excellent. Well hopefully mine will be here soon too...

AA5-A 29th June 2011 17:12

Don't expect details!!! Thats to come later!!!

assymetricdrift 29th June 2011 17:13

Well, in that case, I'm off outta here!

arelix 29th June 2011 17:13

Why do Notacs always come out on a Wednesday? ;)

BUGS/BEARINGS/BOXES 29th June 2011 17:14

"sustainable growth". The new industry wide buzz phrase. However, initially it looks promising, so lets see. An olive branch perhaps??

AirResearcher 29th June 2011 17:43

Good luck guys, Ive heard how things have been at Flybe..and things need to change there too. Dont sell yourselves short !

HidekiTojo 29th June 2011 19:25

Another offer and another vote, excellent! Looking forward to several more months of negotiating.

Lord Spandex Masher 1st July 2011 17:53

So...

Coming out of the backside of a recession Flybe makes the largest profit that it ever has.

The "Management" have been well looked after and rewarded.

You, the pilots, have not. By a long, long way.

Poor old Frenchy has to drag his lap dog around the bases pretending to listen to you...giving the appearance of being shoved into a corner.

You might get a slightly sweeter deal and that will appear to be the "best" deal that Flybe can possibly afford.

But! It will all still be utter bull!!!!.

It is patently obvious to even the most brain cell deficient observer that there is still so much more of the largest profit ever made to be shared amongst the workers. YOU.

What has happened over the last 12-18 months is just a sham.

Keep pushing because you can and will get a better deal.

Serenity 1st July 2011 21:21

All these offers seem to really pale even more concidering the profits posted and the majority purchase of Finncom!!

PaulJ1957 1st July 2011 22:03

A couple of quick spots from the detailed report and accounts available on the flybe web site. ( both as I understand from an initial read)
1) Each of the non executive Directors who is on the Remuneration Committee ( ie responsible for fair pay throughout the company) appears to have received a 20% to 25% pay increase in the year. 2) ( and this is tucked in small print). For 2011-12 each executive director( ie full time) will now be able to earn a proportion of their annual bonus on"personal performance objectives"!ie doing the job they"re already being paid to do anyway. For previous years a bonus is only payable if financial objectives met. In summary all are v likely to pIck up a reasonable bonus even if financial performance doesn't justify it.
The words "double standards" just don't come to mind. Do they?

AirResearcher 3rd July 2011 11:35

If anyone hasnt seen the Finnair/Flybe Nordic news yet its here:
Finnair and Flybe to set up Flybe Nordic and acquire Finnish Commuter Airlines | Cision Wire

I wonder if the directors/senior managers pay has a 'no revolving door' clause that means they have to stay with the airline for a minimum period - say 5 or 10 years - so that any 'brilliant idea' they have that proves to be short term profitable, but long term disastrous is flagged up while they still work for the company? It's too easy for Management to get away with making changes, leave to work for another company and leave a trail of destruction behind them......

AA5-A 5th July 2011 15:13

Anyone received email from balpa yet!!!:confused::sad:


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