Aprils fool! EZ and FR pilots does not make more than SK core pilots. But hard to compare, given that SK pilots have a fixed monthly salery, and the rest has a variable pay depending on their schedule. But how do you know all this BS you come up with?

By looking at my own paycheck and comparing it with those of friends flying for FR and EZ, and DY for that matter. No BS, hard facts. If you don’t know any better than to call BS on things you obviously know nothing about, it’s better to stick a sock in it.

And how many scheduled block hours did you use in your comparison? You are quite the expert in comparing apples and pears, and nagging about the worst of both fruits :) Did you fly anywhere else than SAS professionally so that you know for sure what you are always talking about?

Malaga
 

How come they offer 6/3 pattern for captains but 5/4 for FOs? (According to Parcs recruitment adds on their website.)

Is it’s due to the massive amount of unemployed A320 captains that CAE exclusively knows about, or is it something else in this?



Anyone with insight about London base? Is there a balance with the crew vs aircrafts yet?

Life on top, just out of curiosity, do you fly for any of the outfits we are discussing?

Life on top is just taking the you know what like many other non flying monkeys without a life on here

Take it from someone who's tried both....

You do about the same amount of hours in both outfits. The way you're paid is very different between them two. In terms of net money, Ryanair wins over the course of a career (as of today). If you compare the full package, it throws things around a bit and many perks come just from living in Scandinavian with free this free that..

For your info. There are no B-Scale in SAS at the moment. This was solved in 2016.

Lol.... If you have the same career and does the upgrade at the same time (which you have to assume in order to have any numbers to play with), then the gross salery in Scandi is waaaaay higher than Ryanair, even in the remote chance of working close to 900 a year in Ryan, especially the period as an FO. And that is not to mention the pension scheme in Scandiland...

No doubt Scandinavian salaries are ok, however SAS Ireland is a totally separate company and things are very sub standard salary and t&c wise. Way below current industry standards.

Any evidence to back up the rumours, SAIL are finding it very hard indeed enticing flight crew to join?

To compound their issues, they will no doubt imminently haemorrhage further pilots to BA and Easyjet, once they start sending offers out.

All these shady outfits have been trying their luck since the demise of Monarch and Air Berlin and now they're realising people are waking up and smelling the coffee, after the initial shock.

Offering a Part Time Roster with 5/4/5/13 for a start-up airline that is started with the sole purpose of being cheaper for the owners, should be evidence that they are having a hard time finding "willing, able, suitable" candidates. There are MANY job offers for A320 drivers out there - why should anyone opt for the one with crap conditions?

1 - Basing in LHR or AGP is super important to you.
or
2 - You got rejected elsewhere.

Regarding the new order of new A320s from SAS, anything mentioned about how many that will be deployed to SAIL?

Nil, as per SAS union agreement...

List five or more then? I and many other A320 drivers are looking hard to find the many you are talking about... And I am talking about jobs for first officers :-))

And just to clarify my previous post, I was of course talking about the salary in core Scandi vs. Ryanair...

1) easyJet
2) BA/IAG
3) Aer Lingus
4) Lufthansa/Eurowings
5) Air France
6) WOW
7) Wizz
8) Agean
...for starters -and that’s just in Europe

And you are sure that all of these provide better T/C`s than SAIL? :ugh:

Probably not. Aegean I don’t know to be honest. Wizz is probably similar whilst the rest are better. easyJet should be a non brainer but then again if you failed to get in (of which I’m certain) you’re stuck with the desperate operators such as SAIL. Anyone can get a typerating these days...

Politics aside...

In mainline SAS we are now doing LHR flights AND layovers in Malaga, management admits that staffing resources in mainline are limited because of this - can anybody on the inside at SAIL shed light on the current staffing situation at SAIL?