Legal to advertise for staff for a subsidiary with no AOC in place?

Positions with SAS Ireland
 

Below is a list with positions, advertised by CAE/Parc, for SAS Ireland Ltd (SAIL):

Senior Training Support Coordinator
Scandinavian Language speaking experienced Cabin Crew
Experienced Cabin Crew
Experienced Senior Cabin Crew
A320 Captains
A320 First Officers
A320 TRE/TRI
Manager Crew Training (Nominated Postholder)
Flight Operations Controller
Operations Compliance Auditor

Quite many positions still open for a company that was planned to start ops as of winter timetable end of october? Yes... :D

Internally, delayed delivery from Airbus is to blame.

Good opportunity for ex Monarch Staff

Opportunity yes - good no. Have you seen the T & C's ?

We are talking a (small) step up from small planet p2fly.

I saw a recruitment event for cabincrew scheduled for tomorrow at Heathrow.

Welcome to the neighborhood!
We all have AOCs in Ireland!

Still better than no job as ex Monarch employees with mortgages, bills to pay and family mouths to feed will no doubt be thinking.

Well......this ex Monarch crew just told them where to stick their T & Cs !

Good on you!

Sincerely,
All mainline SAS pilots!

Is it not just a scarecrow? I mean to force SAS group pilots to "open their minds"? It doesn not sound a viable plan to launch from LHR at winter's onset. Plus, the financial condtions alone seem to preclude any existence of a dedicated, well performing and loyal pilot pool.

In that case, it is a bloated, expensive scarecrow.

Can someone please detail the package on offer for line captains? I'd like to confirm my general despondency with the industry 😖

can't find pdf with conditions on my laptop, but ask CAE Parc Aviation, they will send you that file ;)


Another question - anybody actually know when they will start operations??

I recall line Capt as around £6500 per month. No pension. Can probably make more driving a Uber.. better tax breaks anyway.

Didn't Norwegian start in the U.K. with abysmal T & Cs. They now have a pension and LOL.

With pilot and cabin crew union agreements signed I would hope once things have settled down, improvements could hopefully be negotiated. Good luck all.

If it becomes a success story, things will clearly have to change w.r.t T's & C's as people will vote with their feet for better paying jobs; but in the mean time it will suit a fair few who are, through bad luck and circumstance, currently unemployed. Joining is optional, but my guess is that remaining will be conditional, for those who are joining to bridge a gap. There are lots of better options around... if geography is not a factor; and as we all know in this industry, it is far better to apply for a new role from a position of strength (i.e presently employed).

Reminds me when I became a Klingon, we Cambrian guys had that title for many years in Ba,the only difference being that we were on the same salaries as the main line guys, who knows what will happen in the future depends how many walk after two years ,also became one of the few.

Parc are quoting £8,378 a month all in. They have to provide a pension as it is UK based but it is only the state minimum level of contribution.

So not great indeed, around 15% less than a UK orange base without considering pension, LOL, sick pay. I guess we're talking 25% less if you fund all the extra benefits yourself. 5/4 roster should be good though.

SAS will get away with it for now due to the unfortunate demise of Monarch. Good luck to those joining for improving the package over time.