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Old 3rd Dec 2023, 22:03
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Originally Posted by turbine100
VS were doing more second officer interviews again last few weeks. Apparently previous offers made and candidates decided against joining nearer the time of courses for better positions elsewhere as First Officers.

Are they still not giving them the full type rating on the license and not doing the ZFTT sim, until they have done 2 years?

Not exactly a good deal, if another pandemic occurs for those not unrestricted and unable to fly elsewhere the type Virgin offer them.

Better off going to a short haul airline than VS in the U.K, like Easy or Jet 2.
The SO chaps I met doing their 787 TR a few months ago were told at interview they would be cruise relief pilots for 18-24 months. Once they actually started they said they were told in reality itíll be more like 4-6 months before theyíre FOís
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Old 4th Dec 2023, 19:30
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What's the standard of hotels like down route? They taken a hit as well with the cost cutting?
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Smithy175
What's the standard of hotels like down route? They taken a hit as well with the cost cutting?
They're generally very good. Most are either city centre or resort (Carribean/Indian Ocean). The New York hotel can be a bit of a lottery but the location is excellent for Manhattan.
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Old 7th Dec 2023, 15:57
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Thanks Planedrive, in regards to TR, I presume that is a bond over 3-5 years?
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Old 7th Dec 2023, 17:22
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Hi,

You are not bonded at Virgin - the type ratings are fully sponsored
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Old 30th Dec 2023, 16:38
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Originally Posted by pudoc
Not sure what your definition of a good deal is, but a unemployed ex-Flybe pilot in their early-mid twenties with 300hrs total time and a next to useless type rating earning £63k to be cruise relief pilot for 2 years with the prospect of long haul command in their early-mid 30s sounds alright to me.
Indeed. Good deal if you keep that command, maybe!

I'm reliably informed that the ex VACC Chairman, who was at the helm of pilot representation during the contentious 2020 redundancy consultations (and wholesale permanent change to all terms and conditions) has recently been appointed in a management role as Head of Flight Crew at the airline.

Captains made redundant. Seniority binned (and yes - it DID exist, despite new joiners alluding otherwise in posts above, and there was an industrial agreement that was extant covering it!). Scheduling agreements binned permanently. All whilst consulting with a BALPA union Chairman - who now gets a management position. He is now your boss. Good luck with any pay and lifestyle negotiations there!

The court cases of the "unmentionable" forgotten victims of the above debacle, that paved the way for your command in your thirties, have not gone away, by the way. It will all out eventually.

Just saying.



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Old 1st Jan 2024, 15:16
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Hi All,

Quick question here, does anyone know if the flight pay at Virgin is taxed? Just hearing different things from different people.

Thanks in advance
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Old 1st Jan 2024, 18:59
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Originally Posted by walshy9519
Hi All,

Quick question here, does anyone know if the flight pay at Virgin is taxed? Just hearing different things from different people.

Thanks in advance
Flight pay ( which was a fixed amount) was integrated into salary post COVID and is thus taxed at your marginal tax rate.

You do receive allowances down route for purchasing food etc. This is paid at the prevailing HMRC world wide rates which are tax free. Certain destinations receive a top up/ gap payment which is taxed at your marginal rate
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Old 1st Jan 2024, 19:25
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Ah right, thanks for clarifying it for me
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Old 3rd Jan 2024, 09:17
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Apologies if this has been covered, been scanning the tread and havenít seen it.
I understand flight pay is rolled up in basic now, how much are the trip payments and are there any other payments to take into account when working out final income?
Many thanks.
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 01:06
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Has there been any more news on potential payrises?
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Old 16th Jan 2024, 02:29
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raising the pay appears to have not worked. During December and January , many resigned.


Originally Posted by Speedbrakes Up
They have raised the pay as they are worried about new junior pilots leaving within the first few years...... That should speak volumes to anyone considering the mood within VAA.
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Old 17th Jan 2024, 00:04
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Originally Posted by bonzy
raising the pay appears to have not worked. During December and January , many resigned.
Where are most leaving for?
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Old 17th Jan 2024, 14:17
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I heard, although not confirmed of course, that VS BALPA asked for a 40% payrise (for justifiable reason) and VS came back with an offer of 3%. Anyone else heard this?
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 12:11
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Lots to BA apparently.
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 18:05
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Virgin are that desperate they are opening visa sponsorships for Eu nationals to work for the airline.
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Old 18th Jan 2024, 19:00
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Originally Posted by TheAirMission
Virgin are that desperate they are opening visa sponsorships for Eu nationals to work for the airline.

the way they treated people during Covid Iím not surprised
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 10:15
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Originally Posted by Basicsteve
the way they treated people during Covid Iím not surprised
Not like the other one treated people any better though, eh?! Is it just covid treatment that's pushing people away from VS? What else is wrong with it there currently? Bit out of the loop but would be useful to know...!
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Old 19th Jan 2024, 10:54
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Originally Posted by Busdriver01
Not like the other one treated people any better though, eh?! Is it just covid treatment that's pushing people away from VS? What else is wrong with it there currently? Bit out of the loop but would be useful to know...!
See this....

Can you trust your Training Captains? The Captain Lawson case.

There are many court cases lodged by flight crew still pending. Is it all "just because of Covid"?

On the upside for anyone looking for that "dream long-haul gig" - there is an advert out today further dropping DEP entry requirements to type rating only with no recency requirements for anyone who has been unable to fly in the 4 years post-Covid.

.....I guess you just ought to ask : why?! The terminated flight crew with unfair dismissal claims certainly are.

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Old 19th Jan 2024, 15:52
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Originally Posted by TheAirMission
Virgin are that desperate they are opening visa sponsorships for Eu nationals to work for the airline.
FYI, this is not something new. They had it in place since at least 2021.
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