Virgin Recruiting
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From: AUS
The recruitment of Second Officers is a really cheap and thoughtless way to address fatiguing patterns. This current recruitment drive should tell you everything about how Virgin are approaching their rostering and fatigue. They’re going sit a cruise pilot at 36,000ft for 8 hours solid whilst the other crew get time in the bunk. Which means the FDP can be extended and/or the experience in the flight deck reduces as they now require one less CN/FO per flight.
problem solved, “it’s all legal”
problem solved, “it’s all legal”
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From: Middle England
Joined: May 2006
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From: UK
An extra 7 days off per month and then the company try and squeeze as much as they can into the remaining 23 days. Have seen a roster where they managed 87 hours in that. Anything better is a bonus
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From: FLSomething
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From: SE UK
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Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: FLSomething
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From: UK
There's a load of fluffy language from management about being "most loved", but underneath it all it's widebody Ryanair without the honesty to admit what it really is. Everyone is knackered and many/most are looking for other options.
If you are in a job that you're vaguely happy with, you'd be foolish to look at Virgin as a step up
Last edited by zero/zero; 24th December 2022 at 23:09.
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From: EU
Im convinced it’s managements dream to make rostering so bad that everyone takes “part time”. So the company force nearly 100% flying hours into 80% working time.
So basically 20% pay cut for the same work. And, if a recession happens and flying reduces, then happy days because everyone’s on 80% pay. And if flying picks up, then happy days because pilots have part time weeks to pick up extra trips for a fraction of what it costs to employ an additional pilot. It’s genius really. No wonder the CEO got his £3.2m bonus despite there being “no money”.
At least working under O’Leary you knew where you stood.
So basically 20% pay cut for the same work. And, if a recession happens and flying reduces, then happy days because everyone’s on 80% pay. And if flying picks up, then happy days because pilots have part time weeks to pick up extra trips for a fraction of what it costs to employ an additional pilot. It’s genius really. No wonder the CEO got his £3.2m bonus despite there being “no money”.
At least working under O’Leary you knew where you stood.
Last edited by pudoc; 25th December 2022 at 04:04.
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From: World
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From: Uk
Has VS changed so much? I’m ready for the command at the blue/yellow LCC but the management here is so toxic that I’m willing to leave the upgrade to move elsewhere.
Only thing slightly holding me back would be the money once captain and the roster pattern. Ok maybe the chance of a regional base but that ain’t too much of a priority (no kids etc).
From reading this thread sounds like I’m better off staying where I am which says a lot about VS….
Only thing slightly holding me back would be the money once captain and the roster pattern. Ok maybe the chance of a regional base but that ain’t too much of a priority (no kids etc).
From reading this thread sounds like I’m better off staying where I am which says a lot about VS….