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Anyone have an up to date pay scale (salary plus variable?). I believe during the previous recruitment if you had under 3000 hours you went onto an FO scale, and 3000+ was straight to standard SFO.
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I would also be interested in any recent information if anybody is willing to provide it either here or via PM. In particular pay scales, t&c's, rosters and the general life in the company.
Thanks guys.
Thanks guys.
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Speaking to a mate who works there, he told me.
base contract - full time ( max 10 days off pm), lifestyle (additional 4 days off pm) lifestyle+ (additional 7 days off pm)
Pay was 20% less than other long haul operators due to only flying 750hrs, but now no limit ie 900 hrs pa, but pay still set for 750.
allowances set to HMRC worldwide rates, so don’t cover cost of down route subsistence in most destinations now
new scheduling agreement is basically EASA duty limits. Expect 2 days off after almost all trips, typical roster 5-7 flights + 1 week of standby per month
contract states which type employed on, so effectively not a seniority system any more. Last round of redundancy 20+ year captains on 747 made redundant
there appears to be significant numbers across all fleets and ranks starting to leaving
base contract - full time ( max 10 days off pm), lifestyle (additional 4 days off pm) lifestyle+ (additional 7 days off pm)
Pay was 20% less than other long haul operators due to only flying 750hrs, but now no limit ie 900 hrs pa, but pay still set for 750.
allowances set to HMRC worldwide rates, so don’t cover cost of down route subsistence in most destinations now
new scheduling agreement is basically EASA duty limits. Expect 2 days off after almost all trips, typical roster 5-7 flights + 1 week of standby per month
contract states which type employed on, so effectively not a seniority system any more. Last round of redundancy 20+ year captains on 747 made redundant
there appears to be significant numbers across all fleets and ranks starting to leaving
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Originally Posted by am111
Anyone know if they’ll consider a ‘frozen’ ATPL? I’ve got the hours to unfreeze it but my airline won’t let me take the LST for the ATPL until the command upgrade.
The advert says you need a full UK issued ATPL by the date of joining, so looks doubtful. I believe you need it to operate as a ‘Cruise Captain’ when there’s two FO’s in the flight deck and Captain is in the bunk.
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Originally Posted by am111
Anyone know if they’ll consider a ‘frozen’ ATPL? I’ve got the hours to unfreeze it but my airline won’t let me take the LST for the ATPL until the command upgrade.
Pretty poor of the airline though, given it adds 10 mins max to a regular sim and then maybe 15 mins of admin for the training captain…
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Originally Posted by am111
Anyone know if they’ll consider a ‘frozen’ ATPL? I’ve got the hours to unfreeze it but my airline won’t let me take the LST for the ATPL until the command upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Balvenie
Speaking to a mate who works there, he told me.
base contract - full time ( max 10 days off pm), lifestyle (additional 4 days off pm) lifestyle+ (additional 7 days off pm)
Pay was 20% less than other long haul operators due to only flying 750hrs, but now no limit ie 900 hrs pa, but pay still set for 750.
allowances set to HMRC worldwide rates, so don’t cover cost of down route subsistence in most destinations now
new scheduling agreement is basically EASA duty limits. Expect 2 days off after almost all trips, typical roster 5-7 flights + 1 week of standby per month
contract states which type employed on, so effectively not a seniority system any more. Last round of redundancy 20+ year captains on 747 made redundant
there appears to be significant numbers across all fleets and ranks starting to leaving
base contract - full time ( max 10 days off pm), lifestyle (additional 4 days off pm) lifestyle+ (additional 7 days off pm)
Pay was 20% less than other long haul operators due to only flying 750hrs, but now no limit ie 900 hrs pa, but pay still set for 750.
allowances set to HMRC worldwide rates, so don’t cover cost of down route subsistence in most destinations now
new scheduling agreement is basically EASA duty limits. Expect 2 days off after almost all trips, typical roster 5-7 flights + 1 week of standby per month
contract states which type employed on, so effectively not a seniority system any more. Last round of redundancy 20+ year captains on 747 made redundant
there appears to be significant numbers across all fleets and ranks starting to leaving
I do stand to be correct tho!
In my opinion Virgin is one of the best gigs in UK aviation.
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I’m not to sure with time to command but if you plan on 7-10 years you wouldn’t be far off
pension is pretty good, you pay 6% they put in 15% anything less then 6% and they put in 9%
flight pay is built into your salary so the above figures are all in! Whether you fly or not. Although you get an allowance for each trip which depends on location and duration. This is roughly 150-200$ For the average one night trip!
Apply, good luck! You won’t regret it.
pension is pretty good, you pay 6% they put in 15% anything less then 6% and they put in 9%
flight pay is built into your salary so the above figures are all in! Whether you fly or not. Although you get an allowance for each trip which depends on location and duration. This is roughly 150-200$ For the average one night trip!
Apply, good luck! You won’t regret it.
Originally Posted by Whitemonk Returns
Time to command for an experienced pilot joining now?
Also what's the pension and how much on top of those figures could you expect as an FO in duty pay etc. Cheers
Also what's the pension and how much on top of those figures could you expect as an FO in duty pay etc. Cheers
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Rather vague to quote max days off as 10 pm.
what is important is the min days off according to tthe contract one decides to sign .
The “ lifestyle” contract offers 4 extra days off , based on what ? If one was awarded 8 days off
on a base contract + 4 = 12 days . Only 2 more than the quoted max of 10 days with a substantial
salary reduction … this will most likely happen imo.
what is important is the min days off according to tthe contract one decides to sign .
The “ lifestyle” contract offers 4 extra days off , based on what ? If one was awarded 8 days off
on a base contract + 4 = 12 days . Only 2 more than the quoted max of 10 days with a substantial
salary reduction … this will most likely happen imo.
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Originally Posted by A320baby
I’m not to sure with time to command but if you plan on 7-10 years you wouldn’t be far off
pension is pretty good, you pay 6% they put in 15% anything less then 6% and they put in 9%
flight pay is built into your salary so the above figures are all in! Whether you fly or not. Although you get an allowance for each trip which depends on location and duration. This is roughly 150-200$ For the average one night trip!
Apply, good luck! You won’t regret it.
pension is pretty good, you pay 6% they put in 15% anything less then 6% and they put in 9%
flight pay is built into your salary so the above figures are all in! Whether you fly or not. Although you get an allowance for each trip which depends on location and duration. This is roughly 150-200$ For the average one night trip!
Apply, good luck! You won’t regret it.
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Originally Posted by sudden twang
How do HMRC rates stated by Balvenie equate to A320 baby 150-200 US for a nite stop?
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Originally Posted by VariablePitchP
That’s very sly of them. May be worth just paying to do it yourself. Might cost a few grand but if it gets you out of a crappy airline and into Virgin a few years earlier it’s paid for itself tens of times over. Granted you’ll miss this campaign but it’ll be fine for next time.
Pretty poor of the airline though, given it adds 10 mins max to a regular sim and then maybe 15 mins of admin for the training captain…
Pretty poor of the airline though, given it adds 10 mins max to a regular sim and then maybe 15 mins of admin for the training captain…
