Wizzair
Joined: Jun 2021
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From: up north
Recrutiment will slow a bit now, then restart soon at full scale also for NTR colleagues.
Company running at full training capacity at the moment. Every single hr resource is deployed.
Best of luck to all.
Company running at full training capacity at the moment. Every single hr resource is deployed.
Best of luck to all.
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 103
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From: Bandit Country
Any idea when this mob are going to touch base with the real world and stop trying to recruit NASA Astronauts? It’s amazing how a once bottom feeder loco has risen to the top of the cess pit. They’re delusional with their selection procedure and now have to recruit those they rudely refused via a U.K. Agency (IAGO) just so that they can get bums on seats. The tide will turn next year for flight crew. Wizz UK need to grow a pair and recruit their own staff to crew their aircraft!
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 234
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From: SW1A 2AA
The chickens will be coming home to roost in aviation this winter. So many people have retired early or fallen out of love with flying because of their treatment by their employers. Very few youngsters in training. My guess is the pilot headcount in the UK is down by 10-15%. Every part of the economy is suffering a skills shortage and aviation will soon be a part of that. The smart airlines will offer decent money and early start dates for 2022 if they don't want to see their shiny frames parked up. I reckon the likes of Titan will be ready to clean up next year.
Joined: Jul 2021
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From: Rio de Janeiro
Selection process for captains
For those who asked about specifics of the assessment, I was recently in one of the DEC events; expect a 33% pass rate.
day 1 company presentation, 60 minutes technical test (multiple choice about a320 systems and EASA regulations) , role-play, and personal interview (only technical questions, systems, weather, scenarios)
day 2 simulator and psychometrics
simulator was intense they have many different scenarios they basically want to see CRM , crew work, following procedures and some hand-flying.
salary back to normal (45k base/year, 0.062/km, 30/landing)
good luck to all.
day 1 company presentation, 60 minutes technical test (multiple choice about a320 systems and EASA regulations) , role-play, and personal interview (only technical questions, systems, weather, scenarios)
day 2 simulator and psychometrics
simulator was intense they have many different scenarios they basically want to see CRM , crew work, following procedures and some hand-flying.
salary back to normal (45k base/year, 0.062/km, 30/landing)
good luck to all.
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 377
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From: up north
Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP
I don't know about UK, for what i see in Europe and ME, there are still thousands of pilots unemployed.
FZ opened positions for 3 days and received tons of applications.
TCs will remain the same for longer in my opinion.
None of my friends in their 50's are retiring.
I don't know about UK, for what i see in Europe and ME, there are still thousands of pilots unemployed.
FZ opened positions for 3 days and received tons of applications.
TCs will remain the same for longer in my opinion.
None of my friends in their 50's are retiring.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 845
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From: Switzerland ... oh wait: Swaziland
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 35
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From: Galaxy
This people are flying 11% more than prepandemic last week with less pilots.
The maths tells me that something is running to the limit. Maybe squeezing their pilots to the limit? And we are in winter.
and they continue playing with assestments, looking for the excellence of their candidates, for me is quite quite clear what is gonna happen from March and ahead. They are not prepared, they have their crews exhausted in low session already, and they are already late training crews for next year. Slow recruitment, slow training... perfect combination to make a disaster soon.
Just look what happened to Southwest of American Airlines today. And we are speaking about good companies that treat and pay pilots with respect.
the pool of unemployed experienced pilots is drying little by little and you cannot run a company just contracting 80% of cadets.
Who knows maybe this strategy it works. But for a company with such wishes of expansion they should be preparing people like crazy and they are just playing with people and nice proffesional pilots. “Today I want you, tomorrow maybe not and the day after I don’t know”.
continue like this Wizzair. Making your reputation a mess in between the pilots community. You are doing everyday better!
The maths tells me that something is running to the limit. Maybe squeezing their pilots to the limit? And we are in winter.
and they continue playing with assestments, looking for the excellence of their candidates, for me is quite quite clear what is gonna happen from March and ahead. They are not prepared, they have their crews exhausted in low session already, and they are already late training crews for next year. Slow recruitment, slow training... perfect combination to make a disaster soon.
Just look what happened to Southwest of American Airlines today. And we are speaking about good companies that treat and pay pilots with respect.
the pool of unemployed experienced pilots is drying little by little and you cannot run a company just contracting 80% of cadets.
Who knows maybe this strategy it works. But for a company with such wishes of expansion they should be preparing people like crazy and they are just playing with people and nice proffesional pilots. “Today I want you, tomorrow maybe not and the day after I don’t know”.
continue like this Wizzair. Making your reputation a mess in between the pilots community. You are doing everyday better!
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 40
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From: Europe
I am assuming that number is the week over week comparison from the Eurocontrol feed. Keep in mind last year daylight savings time ended a week earlier than this year, so that number is comparing winter schedule last year to summer schedule this year.
The only pilots probably flying anywhere near their limits until December will be trainers.
The only pilots probably flying anywhere near their limits until December will be trainers.
Joined: May 2020
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From: Galaxy
No, I just double checked.
You can visit the official website and it states clearly the following figures.
29/10/21 ........ 654 flights
vs
29/10/19 ........ 564 flights
11.3% above 2019 levels same week on 2021. With much more less man power. God bless you next pick session...!
I leave you down here the link in case you want to analyze by yourself.
https://www.eurocontrol.int/Economic...ation-AOs.html
Let's say the truth to the people please.
You can visit the official website and it states clearly the following figures.
29/10/21 ........ 654 flights
vs
29/10/19 ........ 564 flights
11.3% above 2019 levels same week on 2021. With much more less man power. God bless you next pick session...!
I leave you down here the link in case you want to analyze by yourself.
https://www.eurocontrol.int/Economic...ation-AOs.html
Let's say the truth to the people please.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 845
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From: Switzerland ... oh wait: Swaziland
The occasional positive numbers in those comparison sheets are caused by the very low base (2020). They have 20% more aircraft now to fly (145 today) yet only 70-80 are flying (67 as of this very moment per FR24). They will sweat blood to fly the whole fleet (or even 70-80% of it) come holiday season.
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 377
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From: up north
Pearlharbour
mentioning a disaster in my opinion is not really professional and what we need after the last 2 years in aviation.
Anyways, recruiting department is doing all it takes to get as many as possible onboard; the problem is that there are not enough trainers, even with external aid things run unfortunately slower.
No excellence is looked after during screenings imho, simply reliable and professional people with the right attitude. I am ex ME and i saw former colleagues coming here with the wrong attitude, they all failed. Hopefully they will fly again in the desert soon and i wish them best of luck.
Also, if you are a Captain with XXXXX hours and you cannot decode a taf or don't know a bunch of Lido symbols, well, then you have a problem, not only with Wizz Air.
If you have a level 6 on your license but during the interview you speak clearly like a level 4, again, you have a problem.
There is a false myth going on here; Wizz recruitment is not for astronauts, it is simply for well prepared pilots. If anybody come to Budapest thinking its a walk in the park simply because they arrive from a super legacy, here you have a surprise, and i saw it myself during my screening back in summer.
Things will improve, they have to, next year will be a test for all airlines. I am sure Wizz Air will continue to suck as many pilots as possible in the next months, both rated and NTR.
About reputation, we may have a crap reputation, but still i see candidates from Airlines with a "better reputation" at the screening sessions in Budapest, sweating for an interview.
Lesson one, never spit in the air, because it will come back to you.
Wizz is the only carrier actively looking for pilots, both experienced and cadet level. The others are still in survival mode. Take it as it is, a job opportunity in a dark moment. No ego allowed.
Training is well structured and aircrafts have a clean techlog most of the times.
Best of luck to all those who will give it a try.
mentioning a disaster in my opinion is not really professional and what we need after the last 2 years in aviation.
Anyways, recruiting department is doing all it takes to get as many as possible onboard; the problem is that there are not enough trainers, even with external aid things run unfortunately slower.
No excellence is looked after during screenings imho, simply reliable and professional people with the right attitude. I am ex ME and i saw former colleagues coming here with the wrong attitude, they all failed. Hopefully they will fly again in the desert soon and i wish them best of luck.
Also, if you are a Captain with XXXXX hours and you cannot decode a taf or don't know a bunch of Lido symbols, well, then you have a problem, not only with Wizz Air.
If you have a level 6 on your license but during the interview you speak clearly like a level 4, again, you have a problem.
There is a false myth going on here; Wizz recruitment is not for astronauts, it is simply for well prepared pilots. If anybody come to Budapest thinking its a walk in the park simply because they arrive from a super legacy, here you have a surprise, and i saw it myself during my screening back in summer.
Things will improve, they have to, next year will be a test for all airlines. I am sure Wizz Air will continue to suck as many pilots as possible in the next months, both rated and NTR.
About reputation, we may have a crap reputation, but still i see candidates from Airlines with a "better reputation" at the screening sessions in Budapest, sweating for an interview.
Lesson one, never spit in the air, because it will come back to you.
Wizz is the only carrier actively looking for pilots, both experienced and cadet level. The others are still in survival mode. Take it as it is, a job opportunity in a dark moment. No ego allowed.
Training is well structured and aircrafts have a clean techlog most of the times.
Best of luck to all those who will give it a try.
Last edited by Giuff; 31st October 2021 at 15:12.