Wizzair

[BarryMG]

But then you can claim those taxes back, unfortunately only by middle of next year - hurts if you have no savings, but in the long term it doesn't matter.

[aviationvictim]

BarryMG

Is that on an Italian contract with social security and TFR paid on top of it?

[Banana Joe]

That is correct.

[Lucifer786]

The Italian contracts are still terrible. But like someone said, you get your taxes back under certain circumstances.
But paying taxes on their international flights is surely a hefty pound of flesh !

[dirk85]

If you are italian resident, with family and center of interests in italy, sure. But most of the foreign pilots did not bring the family over as far as I can see, meaning that under most legislations you are still eligible to pay taxes in your own country of residence, at least the difference between what you would have paid there and what italy has taken from your payslip.

[Alrosa]

It depends. I broadly agree with you, but there are instances where a pilot is based (at least according to their contract) in one country, but due to the particularities of airline schedules and aircraft movements, spends very little time indeed at their “base”.

Over the course of a year I can count on a single hand the number of times I’ve flown to and from my base as opposed to starting and ending my duty in other countries. Commuting is very easy from my airport (a major European hub) and therefore I don’t live in the same country I am based in.

I pay social security in the country I am based in as their law requires, but the law of the country I commute from and live in states I must pay my taxes there - luckily they have an agreement with the country I’m based in, so it’s all legal and quite straightforward. But I had to check with a lawyer, and I would suggest anyone working for Wizzair etc. spend the money to ensure they don’t get caught out with taxes and social security....even on the allegedly low salaries that some LCCs seem to pay, it is money very well spent...

[Banana Joe]

I suggest you also check the Double Tax Treaty between the two countries involved in your case. Our particular case is usually addressed in article 15 of these standard EU treaties.

[Pearlharbour]

Only CONFAIR contracts available and random roster in non popular bases. 4000 net a FO? no my friend came on, even on prepandemic

for me the main problem is that they do not have enough pilots to guarantee a stable roster. And the commuting to home from Eastern Europe countries (some of them) are really difficult with tickets very expensive.

[Giuff]

Not true. Local contracts on the table also.

[gpsprimary01]

If you have a confair contract, in which country do you have to pay the social security?

[dirk85]

In my experience 99% of Wizzair pilots on a Confair contract do not pay social security at all, as it is not taken from their payslip and feel like it is beneath them to pay

[Potatos_69]

Normally it's because they are paying for full private health insurance instead. or its because the salary is so low that they can't afford to pay full social security... at least during covid

[MCT SET]

If you are on the CONFAIR contract and not the local contract, is it the law to pay social security or are you allowed to take private healthcare and pension?

[dirk85]

You should pay social security, should being the key word. If they want the private stuff, that has to be on top of the state one

[Pearlharbour]

Giuff

last pilots rejoin WIZZ were not even offered the option of local contracts. Just CONFAIR.

so yes is true

[Giuff]

If you are Wizz then you have other infos that i do not have. I am Wizz, and i do have a local contract.
For truth sake and thats it. Rumours are fine, but good information is always a priority during these hard times. Take it as it is. Clarity comes first.

[Pearlharbour]

when you join WIZZ? Pre or after pandemic. Tell me

[Giuff]

It does not matter. Truth is that local contracts are offered, along with others. Now, not months ago.

[Pearlharbour]

local contract is only offered in Tirana, Skopje, UK and Italy. ALL the other bases are CONFAIR contract.

that’s the true, tell me I’m not telling true.

and now tell me if a new pilot is going to get a base in Italy at the beginning, for example.

[com304]

Based on what? I was offered both local and confair contract just yesterday. KIV base