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Old 19th Sep 2021, 16:44
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Yes, they are. They have very recently invited a colleague who is a NTR FO. I guess captains are being called, too.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 12:20
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Type rating costs

Hello everyone,

Any idea for NTR FOs if you are bonded for a certain amount of years or they request the TR sum in advance like Ryanair?

Thank you in advance!
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 06:54
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Is it true now that after the simulator, you have to undergo a very long computer based aptitude test (the likes of which most other companies do BEFORE)?

Second question, are the FO recruitment days completely separate from Captain recruitment days?

Thank you
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 07:13
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The aptitude test is indeed in the final stage. People who have recently attended say that it's like 2-3 hours long. Indeed, I wonder why it's not in the beginning, like in most other companies. Aptitude and theory tests usually serve to reduce the number of candidates going to the interview - the part requiring the highest number of man-hours on part of the recruitment team.
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Old 26th Sep 2021, 11:31
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What aptitute test is it? cut-E or something fancier?
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 18:02
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Because these two do not have corporate-grade like HR departments that are too busy showing the rest of the company how invaluable their work is. Keeping busy makes you busy.

Instead, small operators are looking for pilots who arrive on time as much as practicable with a reusable aeroplane and without spreading dangerous habits among the pilot pool. For this, you need a SIM session and an assessor pilot who's seen a bit of the dark side - and done. Makes you wonder what else is there actually to the job that other companies are so keen to discover. The whole of DLR could not prevent the GW tragedy.

BTW: a fresh rumour is going around, about WZZ calling the people who turned them down the last autumn and in spring time (say again: pilots refused to join the pink T&Cs), but now offering the original salary packages on a flexible contract. After the second finger is shown some threats are issued (blacklist) but ulitmately another call follows a couple of days later with the contract attached for the standard duty pattern on pre-covid terms.

This smells a bit like normality is coming, at last.
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 19:06
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Just so we are on the same page: people are being offered contracts that every single pilot in Wizz has? If so, what's so special about the rumor?
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 19:27
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Oh, perhaps I wasn't. So that we are: Are the new-(re)joiners being all offered pre-COVID pay and duty rosters already?

---- below the line ----
Given the fresh post in the AvEx thread, perhaps I to clarify a bit: The absence of overbearing HR does not automatically make for a nice company.

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Old 27th Sep 2021, 19:56
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Just like it was mentioned before in this thread. Pre-covid salary since early August, not sure about the rosters.
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 20:55
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Nope. Pre-covid salary back starting next month.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 06:04
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@Nikker

It was a three-stepped message:
i) recall on pandemic pay
ii) recall on pre-covid pay but flexi contract (non-commutable, like 3 fixed off days / month)
iii) recall on pre-covid pay and standard-pattern contract (commutable), full pre-covid style.

I shared a flightdeck once with the person who made it to the third stage by standing his ground (well, simply by counting the chicken himself).

Not sure if it is old or recent news, but it is a good one. Not only it means people already have opportunities to decline a bad offer, moreover the company is forced to react which was not granted at all.

Trying to see the glass half-full.

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Old 28th Sep 2021, 07:22
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Keep in mind that the roster pattern in Wizzair is not in the contract, it can be altered at any time.
Not like the rest in set in stone, since they unilaterally change whatever they want at all times at their comvenience
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 09:00
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It will be interesting to see what Wizz UK can get away with in a post Brexit world. No more ability to use cheaper Eastern European workforce to threaten terms and conditions of those working out of the UK. I'm sure there's another loop hole waiting to be exploited though!

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Old 28th Sep 2021, 09:27
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By the looks of it the post-Brexit world will be begging the said workforce to return to the UK to avoid juice shortage at the fuel stations and to have lettuce on the shelves of Tesco. And using the surplus Wizz UK crews and aircraft to help out in Eastern Europe as it already happened in August. It won't work like ordering 30.000 cloned lorry drivers and 60.000 pickers to be delivered to Dover by tomorrow. Either the rules are loosened or the comedy going on now will stay for long.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 09:56
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Yes, you can take the piss and it's perfectly valid but not related to the above.
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 10:21
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None taken (as it wasn't rocket science to predict that this will happen) but it's still a fact: either they let them back or those problems will persist. Which option you think they will choose? And if they let them back then the WUK crew can be threatened again with the (even) cheap(er) workforce.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 10:21
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What position were you applying for? Were all 40 candidates one rank or a mix of Captains and FO?

Thanks
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 10:31
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I think WIZZAIR need to understand that some of the pilots they fired are working now and need time to attend an assessment.
Also it would be nice to know what are the conditions it will be before attending the assessment so the pilot can evaluate if it would be good for him and his family to return or it would be a step back again.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 10:44
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Very high selectivity now for the pilot recruitment. I guess they take advantage of the crisis to be very picky.
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Old 7th Oct 2021, 14:43
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While they are still wet-leasing aircraft for lack of crew. They need good apples (aka yes-men) that's why they are picky.
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