Wizzair
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Joined: Apr 2003
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From: Commuting not home
@Nikker
It was a three-stepped message:
i) recall on pandemic pay
ii) recall on pre-covid pay but flexi contract (non-commutable, like 3 fixed off days / month)
iii) recall on pre-covid pay and standard-pattern contract (commutable), full pre-covid style.
I shared a flightdeck once with the person who made it to the third stage by standing his ground (well, simply by counting the chicken himself).
Not sure if it is old or recent news, but it is a good one. Not only it means people already have opportunities to decline a bad offer, moreover the company is forced to react which was not granted at all.
Trying to see the glass half-full.
It was a three-stepped message:
i) recall on pandemic pay
ii) recall on pre-covid pay but flexi contract (non-commutable, like 3 fixed off days / month)
iii) recall on pre-covid pay and standard-pattern contract (commutable), full pre-covid style.
I shared a flightdeck once with the person who made it to the third stage by standing his ground (well, simply by counting the chicken himself).
Not sure if it is old or recent news, but it is a good one. Not only it means people already have opportunities to decline a bad offer, moreover the company is forced to react which was not granted at all.
Trying to see the glass half-full.
Last edited by FlightDetent; 28th September 2021 at 06:38.
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: World
Keep in mind that the roster pattern in Wizzair is not in the contract, it can be altered at any time.
Not like the rest in set in stone, since they unilaterally change whatever they want at all times at their comvenience
Not like the rest in set in stone, since they unilaterally change whatever they want at all times at their comvenience
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Switzerland ... oh wait: Swaziland
By the looks of it the post-Brexit world will be begging the said workforce to return to the UK to avoid juice shortage at the fuel stations and to have lettuce on the shelves of Tesco. And using the surplus Wizz UK crews and aircraft to help out in Eastern Europe as it already happened in August. It won't work like ordering 30.000 cloned lorry drivers and 60.000 pickers to be delivered to Dover by tomorrow. Either the rules are loosened or the comedy going on now will stay for long.
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Switzerland ... oh wait: Swaziland
None taken (as it wasn't rocket science to predict that this will happen) but it's still a fact: either they let them back or those problems will persist. Which option you think they will choose? And if they let them back then the WUK crew can be threatened again with the (even) cheap(er) workforce.
Joined: May 2020
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From: Galaxy
I think WIZZAIR need to understand that some of the pilots they fired are working now and need time to attend an assessment.
Also it would be nice to know what are the conditions it will be before attending the assessment so the pilot can evaluate if it would be good for him and his family to return or it would be a step back again.
Also it would be nice to know what are the conditions it will be before attending the assessment so the pilot can evaluate if it would be good for him and his family to return or it would be a step back again.
Joined: Nov 2018
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From: world
TBSC
They don't care about yes-attitude during the interview, but if you know in detail ATPL especially Air Law. If you hesitate during the face-to-face technical interview you're out. And I don't even talk about the sim, totally random.
They are picky because loads of desperate unemployed pilots are available now. Even captains ready to switch back to the right seat.
That Airline has grown up too fast and now they believe they are as attractive as legacies. Whenever the former Emirates/Etihad/China/etc guys will move back to their previous Airline and Wizz will be again under lack of crew...
They don't care about yes-attitude during the interview, but if you know in detail ATPL especially Air Law. If you hesitate during the face-to-face technical interview you're out. And I don't even talk about the sim, totally random.
They are picky because loads of desperate unemployed pilots are available now. Even captains ready to switch back to the right seat.
That Airline has grown up too fast and now they believe they are as attractive as legacies. Whenever the former Emirates/Etihad/China/etc guys will move back to their previous Airline and Wizz will be again under lack of crew...
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From: Switzerland ... oh wait: Swaziland
They are still short of crew, wet-leased aircraft just recently again to cover flights while they still don't use 50-60 of their own aircraft. The way the selection is being done merely shows how clueless they are. That's the reason they got into this mess in the first place.
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: Europe
I know a few excellent guys of all ranks who failed the WZZ assessment. Some before COVID, others recently. Why was that, I can only guess - but probably more because of the HR part than because of anything having gone sideways on the technical one.
Joined: Apr 2013
Aviation Qualifications: CPL
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From: Neither here or there
I applied as an experienced FO, >3000 hours on type. I gave it my best, I was well prepped, perhaps got one tech question wrong in the interview but that was a misunderstanding of the question I realised afterwards. I felt I did better than all my previous assessments (more than 10 of them, having past the last 5 in a row). Yet, I didn't even make it to day 2 with Wizz Air. I know the young pilot recruitment manager guy (Hungarian) reads PPRuNe. I will say one thing to him....don't be so picky, maybe we're not all Wizz Air material but there aren't enough of us to go around. You are destined to have a difficult 2022 because of your attitude.
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From: Europe
Capt Scribble
Exactly what you can expect when you let the non-tech lot run the show in recruitment. This is not to say that non-technical skills are not important. They are absolutely vital. But there needs to be recognition that, as an airline, you need safe and competent pilots - and some different personalities can be equally safe pilots if taught correctly. The teaching resource is there. Training is of high standard and there are many instructors who have years and years in the company and probably over 10,000 hours on type, owing to the fact that they fly a lot.
If being a safe and competent pilot (and you cannot be one without good CRM) is not enough of a reason for one to be employed by an airline in desperate need of pilots, then I don't know what else is. Oh, wait, maybe the results of some computer games labeled as "psychological and personality assessment"?
Exactly what you can expect when you let the non-tech lot run the show in recruitment. This is not to say that non-technical skills are not important. They are absolutely vital. But there needs to be recognition that, as an airline, you need safe and competent pilots - and some different personalities can be equally safe pilots if taught correctly. The teaching resource is there. Training is of high standard and there are many instructors who have years and years in the company and probably over 10,000 hours on type, owing to the fact that they fly a lot.
If being a safe and competent pilot (and you cannot be one without good CRM) is not enough of a reason for one to be employed by an airline in desperate need of pilots, then I don't know what else is. Oh, wait, maybe the results of some computer games labeled as "psychological and personality assessment"?