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UK ATPL to EASA - moving on

Old 1st Jun 2021, 13:58
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UK ATPL to EASA - moving on

We are getting some progress. EASA now appear to recognise historic ATPL theory passes for current UK CPL IR and ATPL holders for EASA ATPL issue (note: not for CPL). This from the EASA aircrew regulation & standardisation team themselves, at the email [email protected]:

Proof of compliance with Part-FCL requirements obtained under the oversight of the UK CAA before 1 January 2021 (e.g. completed theoretical knowledge examinations, skill tests) may be accepted by a competent authority of an EASA Member States for the issuance of a Part-FCL licence in that Member State, provided that such proof of compliance is still valid (in accordance with the applicable requirements of Part-FCL, e.g. the validity of theoretical knowledge examinations) and all required documents and records can be made available to the competent authority to which the application is made.[/color][color=#2980b9]The information provided by the previous points does not mean that a Part-FCL license issued before 1 January 2021 by the UK CAA can still be simply transferred to an EASA Member State, but only that EASA Member States may, for the purpose of issuing Part-FCL licenses or ratings, continue to accept proof of compliance with Part-FCL requirements (e.g. theoretical knowledge examinations, skill tests) which were obtained before 1 January 2021 under the oversight of the UK CAA.

The validity of completed theoretical knowledge examinations is regulated in point FCL.025 of Annex I (Part-FCL) to Regulation (EU) No 1178/2011. Particularly, the ATPL theoretical knowledge examination is valid and acceptable for the issuance of an ATPL by a Member State for a time period of 7 years, counted from the last day of validity of a Part-FCL instrument rating. In the case of a licence issued in the UK under Part-FCL before 1 January 2021, this day would be the 31 December 2020 (after that day, the IR is no longer deemed to be a Part-FCL instrument rating).

A skill test can be accepted for the issuance of a licence only within a time period of 6 months (point FCL.015(f) of Annex I (Part-FCL) to Regulation (EU) No 1178/2011).

For a detailed assessment of your particular case and any further information, please contact the competent authority of the EASA Member State where you wish to apply for a (validation or conversion of your UK licence into) a Part-FCL licence.
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Old 1st Jun 2021, 15:49
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Thanks for the info Alex.

I have been e mailing a few of the NAA's on the same point. The only thing that worried me was people like myself that had done their ATPL exams pre EASA ( 1996 ) in my case. But I think that Article 9 should mean that UK CAA are valid whenever they were taken as they were deemed suitable for the issue of an EASA ATPL. Then you just have to abide by FCL 0.25 for the seven years from last EASA IR

Would you think that's a fair assessment ?From COMMISSION REGULATION (EU) No 1178/2011

Article 9 - Credit for training commenced prior to the application of this Regulation

Regulation (EU) 2019/1747

1. In respect of issuing Part-FCL licences in accordance with Annex I, training commenced prior to the application of this Regulation in accordance with the JARs and procedures, under the regulatory oversight of a Member State recommended for mutual recognition within the Joint Aviation Authorities’ system in relation to the relevant JARs, shall be given full credit provided that the training and testing were completed by 8 April 2016 at the latest and a Part-FCL licence is issued by 1 April 2020 at the latest.

2. Training commenced prior to the application of this Regulation in accordance with Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention shall be given credit for the purposes of issuing Part-FCL licences on the basis of a credit report established by the Member State in consultation with the Agency.

3. The credit report shall describe the scope of the training, indicate for which requirements of Part-FCL licences credit is given and, if applicable, which requirements applicants need to comply with in order to be issued with Part-FCL licences. It shall include copies of all documents necessary to demonstrate the scope of the training and of the national regulations and procedures in accordance with which the training was commenced.
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Old 2nd Jun 2021, 09:51
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Personally, yes, I don't think a distinction will be made. What seems to be happening is that there was an early and politically-motivated instruction from the EU to EASA not to assist the UK while Brexit was being negotiated. The initial blanket unhelpfulness is now being reviewed by both EASA and the Member States with two opposite points of view forming. One is a hardline 'you voted for it' attitude, another is a more pragmatic view that recognises the issues firstly on a more human level and secondly from a legal point of view. FLC.025 referred to above, for instance, is the law and EU States must apply it, no opt-out available.
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Old 10th Jun 2021, 06:17
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Converting UK to EASA ATPL

Any tips on this? Which country is easiest / fastest?

Thanks.
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Old 10th Jun 2021, 11:50
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That thread is 9 pages of people whining about politics with no actual answer.
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Old 10th Jun 2021, 13:07
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Old 10th Jun 2021, 16:16
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Part of the answer is here. EASA accepting that historic ATPL exam passes are valid.
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Old 11th Jun 2021, 06:13
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Thanks for the info Alex.
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Old 11th Jun 2021, 10:46
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Thank you for the update Alex
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