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Old 24th Apr 2023, 13:40
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What is the recruitment company name, please?
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Old 24th Apr 2023, 18:17
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They are mentioned in the threads
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Old 1st May 2023, 12:34
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The advertised roster pattern looks a bit strange. How is it possible to have less days OFF in the winter than in the summer, given that most of the flying in this kind of ACMI companies happens during the summer? Or do they just keep the crews on standby wherever the aircraft are based for the low season?
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Old 1st May 2023, 13:11
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How long is a piece of string?

Join, enjoy, and bail out if necessary (sending the message directly to them).
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Old 1st May 2023, 13:31
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ
The advertised roster pattern looks a bit strange. How is it possible to have less days OFF in the winter than in the summer, given that most of the flying in this kind of ACMI companies happens during the summer? Or do they just keep the crews on standby wherever the aircraft are based for the low season?
Because they are expecting that you reach the maximum hours allowable per each 28 days in a shorter time during the summer than during the winter.
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Old 1st May 2023, 13:33
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Join, enjoy, and bail out if necessary (sending the message directly to them).
At the end of the day it is all about what suits you better.
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Old 1st May 2023, 14:31
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Originally Posted by FlyHigher
Because they are expecting that you reach the maximum hours allowable per each 28 days in a shorter time during the summer than during the winter.
That could be a valid reason; however, given that an annual number of hours in the 400-600 range has been quoted on this thread, is the 28-day limitation that much of a concern outside peak summer season? In terms of workload and hours, Avion Express doesn't seem to be anywhere near a low-cost carrier. Or am I missing something?
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Old 4th May 2023, 10:33
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I think the answer to all this is who on earth is still recruiting for the summer season at the beginning of May. yes there is a pilot shortage but the quality airlines finished a while ago. Should be an indication..................of whom to work for.
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Old 4th May 2023, 15:02
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One important thing to consider is just who are the customers of ACMIs like Avion Express? It's the same airlines that could buy more aircraft and hire more pilots. They choose not to due to peak seasonal demand. So the "good" airlines are actually suffering a pilot shortage via proxy.
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Old 5th May 2023, 10:38
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Originally Posted by Superpilot
One important thing to consider is just who are the customers of ACMIs like Avion Express? It's the same airlines that could buy more aircraft and hire more pilots. They choose not to due to peak seasonal demand. So the "good" airlines are actually suffering a pilot shortage via proxy.
Legacy airlines in Europe does not have issues recruiting flight crew, lack of training capacity is the main problems for everyone.
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Old 5th May 2023, 11:21
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As much as training capacity is indeed an issue, it's not the reason why ACMI companies exist and are doing well during times of high demand. Many larger leisure and even legacy carriers consciously choose to have a fleet of however many aircraft they can run year-round (excluding some time allowance for periods of heavy maintenance which are normally scheduled for the winter) rather than have multiple idling aircraft and crews throughout the winter. For the peak summer season, they hire the likes of Avion Express and many other, much smaller companies, mostly based in Eastern Europe. The thing is, in case of a downturn the "seasonal helpers" will be the first ones to be kicked out, well before any downsizing of the carrier's own fleet is on the cards.
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Old 12th May 2023, 10:32
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Hello everyone! I have a technical interview with Avion express scheduled for next week! i was hoping if anyone could give some insight on what to expect and typical questions.
I am applying as TR captain.
Thank you in advance
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Old 17th May 2023, 15:19
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Could anyone provide some info regarding their roster patterns?

Are they doing manly 4 sector days?
If you live in a city where they have an operating base, will that define or prioritize you working from that base?

Thank you in advance
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Old 17th May 2023, 19:47
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I am so sad for you guys, always complaining, always being that frustrated...
I joined 3 months ago ans you know what ?? I love it. Proper training, high basic salary (so who cares about the 400-600 hrs)... This month I made 11'000 after tax... yesss AE paid for socal security and pension, i paid the taxes in my country. And you know what, I spent 14 days home, with my family...
So please guys, go fishing, relax and enjoy your life that is that much better than mine !
I flew for one renowned Airline in Switzerland and i can tell you, the package (what I was looking for) was a lot worse.
wish you all a great summer☀️ be happy and positive
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Old 18th May 2023, 10:59
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Originally Posted by Clamis
I am so sad for you guys, always complaining, always being that frustrated...
I joined 3 months ago ans you know what ?? I love it. Proper training, high basic salary (so who cares about the 400-600 hrs)... This month I made 11'000 after tax... yesss AE paid for socal security and pension, i paid the taxes in my country. And you know what, I spent 14 days home, with my family...
So please guys, go fishing, relax and enjoy your life that is that much better than mine !
I flew for one renowned Airline in Switzerland and i can tell you, the package (what I was looking for) was a lot worse.
wish you all a great summer☀️ be happy and positive
11K after taxes then you don’t pay taxes…
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Old 18th May 2023, 11:39
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Yes, we are all convinced that Avion Express, the bottom feeder airline in Europe since many years, will consistently pay its crews 11k a month, all year, for the foreseable future, after taxes. Let’s all apply.
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Old 20th May 2023, 10:07
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Can anyone shed some light on the following:
-Is the winter one-month vacation assigned in a single block or can it be used in parts to supplement the 7 days OFF per rotation?
-With the establishment of a new AOC and extensive hiring of ICAO-licensed pilots, will European pilots get predominantly projects in Europe?
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Old 27th May 2023, 19:27
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Originally Posted by PilotLZ
Can anyone shed some light on the following:
-Is the winter one-month vacation assigned in a single block or can it be used in parts to supplement the 7 days OFF per rotation?
1month off, as clear as water, no tricks. Can't play with distributing days off as you wish, there are 400 pilots.


-With the establishment of a new AOC and extensive hiring of ICAO-licensed pilots, will European pilots get predominantly projects in Europe?
ICAO mainly for shortage on high season, they can't even work with EU AOC/PLATES without special permission nor Europe
There you have some light, you never know what will happen this is a fiesta.
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Old 31st May 2023, 05:08
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Some light is coming

Despite all the considerations, let’s say same facts.
Avion is paying you gross, as a service provider with agencies located out of Europe. Those “fake” agents are just to let you be responsible for taxes and avoid any EU labour law.
Salary is acceptable in summer but not in winter where their activities drop down.
Rostering, as is managed by the company is quite terrible. In summer they will press you to sell all your days off promising you the moon. No life and just fake promises.
You will have a dream salary, since will be constantly changing according market demand and NO life.
Their plan is to open another AOC in Brazil now… good luck for ICAO pilots too. If the plan will be finalised you will have the wonderful chance to be part of their awesome team.
But try to escape as soon as you can. Those companies are just for beginners or people close to retirement. Look for a stable environment not based only on their personal profit. Scammers?!? Or maybe aviation world is changing?
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Old 31st May 2023, 05:11
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Winter Vacation

Originally Posted by PilotLZ
Can anyone shed some light on the following:
-Is the winter one-month vacation assigned in a single block or can it be used in parts to supplement the 7 days OFF per rotation?
-With the establishment of a new AOC and extensive hiring of ICAO-licensed pilots, will European pilots get predominantly projects in Europe?
winter vacation is just a dream. Nothing written, just for fishing
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