Avion Express

[EC-KIY]

Any news about T&C of Avion Express for next winter? What about upgrades?

[giord]

Originally Posted by EC-KIY

Any news about T&C of Avion Express for next winter? What about upgrades?

Capt. 2500 basic + 50 eur/hour flown. All gross. Expect 30/40 hours in winter, I.e. 4500 gross/month. Add taxes and do the maths. There will be upgrades for sure as it is impossibile they will be able to find enough captains on the market with those conditions.

[reverse21]

Non rated candidates ?

Any non type rated cadet applied for this offer paying 800 bucks via a very well known ATO?

[Madp1lot]

Assessment

Been a long time since I last preped for any assessment, but as it stands, it is now time to dress up that suit again and give it a go.
Does anyone have any information about the Pilot Assessment for TR Captains as of December 2022 onwards? Tech databank type, psycometrics and cognitive, as well as interview and simulator profile? Any info on these topics would be highly appreciated, if you'd care enough to brief a fellow Airman.
Thanks in advance, and happy landings.

[uberfly]

I would not worry much about it. Pass rate is 100%.

[Madp1lot]

That's not very helpful as a reply, is it?

[Clamis]

Originally Posted by Madp1lot

That's not very helpful as a reply, is it?

Don't worry Madp1lot, unfortunately, many of our colleagues are just like those employers they criticize... disrespectful !
Regarding the assessment:
1. online assessment AON. Train on pilotest.com (CUT-E) for free.
A320 system test (basic and fair questions)

2. Interview: 30 min with HR and a pilot. Typical HR questions Have you ever been involved.....
1 or 2 tech questions, as a discussion, very fair.

3. Simulator: I know about dual FMGC fail.
Eng fail, raw data ILS, Go around.

Good luck

Guys, we know these airlines for a long time now. As far as I know, nobody obliges anyone to sign a contract, so please, instead of complaining, just don't sign it.

Madp1lot, if this is the right place for you, then go for it and all the best👍

[reverse21]

pass and fasttrack?

I received the invitation for the online tests but I'm not really sure what software use for the technical ATPL theory part. I'm using fasttrack and pilotassesments.com Any help about the question bank used for this first part would be highly appreciated.

[reverse21]

Hi Claims! Do you know if the exercise of the RBI is like the one from politest.com or a bit easier?

[uberfly]

It is the reality. They hire almost every single pilot making the application. Giving you a suggestion I am helping you to save your time. If you have that much time to prepare for their assessment I would definitely take my time to apply other airlines which would offer your better conditions and fair treatment. So please stop the nonsense and try not to rationalize your decisions to apply to such companies unless you have specific reason.

[Madp1lot]

Originally Posted by Clamis

Don't worry Madp1lot, unfortunately, many of our colleagues are just like those employers they criticize... disrespectful !
Regarding the assessment:
1. online assessment AON. Train on pilotest.com (CUT-E) for free.
A320 system test (basic and fair questions)

2. Interview: 30 min with HR and a pilot. Typical HR questions Have you ever been involved.....
1 or 2 tech questions, as a discussion, very fair.

3. Simulator: I know about dual FMGC fail.
Eng fail, raw data ILS, Go around.

Good luck

Guys, we know these airlines for a long time now. As far as I know, nobody obliges anyone to sign a contract, so please, instead of complaining, just don't sign it.

Madp1lot, if this is the right place for you, then go for it and all the best👍

Thank you so much for your feedback. That gets me more on track with other info I got from colleagues.

As for being the right place.. one can only make omelets with eggs.. and right now I'm short on eggs. The opportunity showed itself and I have nothing to lose. Not a dream career, but in my case I see some potential there.
Thanks again for the help and the constructive feedback.

[Madp1lot]

Originally Posted by uberfly

It is the reality. They hire almost every single pilot making the application. Giving you a suggestion I am helping you to save your time. If you have that much time to prepare for their assessment I would definitely take my time to apply other airlines which would offer your better conditions and fair treatment. So please stop the nonsense and try not to rationalize your decisions to apply to such companies unless you have specific reason.

I really don't see any problem with what you're arguing mate. A Job is a Job. And some of us need more of a job once in a while, and every life and life experience is different from others. Don't frown upon something that is not yours to frown about in the first place. Do you work there? Are you unhappy there? If so, then resign and move on. If not, then I fail to see the purpose of your not constructive criticism.
You might be well sitted atm, but others maybe just need a way to get back on track and feed their families. Also, everyone is in a different position and has gone thru different things in life.
For me, atm, this outfit doesn't look that bad at all. Could be better, yes. But there's way worse out there.
Also, I'm applying to 4 different airlines atm, so don't think this is my only shot.
Difference is, I take all opportunities professionally and with respect. Interviews work both ways. If I won't be happy with the offer I have more options. But maybe, just maybe, this offer could be OK to me, right now, at this moment in my life.
That's my 5% contigency.
Happy landings.

[FlightDetent]

What you missed is that his first sentence was a condensed advice, and a very truthful good one.

If your licence was issued to a properly qualified pilot who actually can pass the skill test criteria, you are effectively on board after booking your interview.

Hope all goes well for you, many people enjoy the time with them.

[Madp1lot]

Originally Posted by FlightDetent

What you missed is that his first sentence was a condensed advice, and a very truthful good one.

If your licence was issued to a properly qualified pilot who actually can pass the skill test criteria, you are effectively on board after booking your interview.

Hope all goes well for you, many people enjoy the time with them.

Thanks. Me too. Do need to get back on track. Appreciate the words.

[glidestar]

the latest contract is 2250 euro per month for captain and 50 euro per block hour

[Madp1lot]

Originally Posted by glidestar

the latest contract is 2250 euro per month for captain and 50 euro per block hour

The latest contract is:
Cpt:
summer 5500+BH
winter 2800+BH
​​​BH=50

FO:
summer 2800+BH
winter 1600+BH
BH=35 (>1000H on type)
BH=30 (<1000H on type)

[FlightDetent]

Thanks. Assuming 70 blh on average month MAY-OCT that kicks

9k and 5250 invoiced
= approx 7k and 4k net

Imagine raising the price by 3 EUR / ticket, to be shared CP = 1.2 €, FO = 0.6€, CC = 4x 0,3 € with modest 20x sectors in a month.
+ 4300
+ 2100
+ 1000

Does much more than just take care of the tax, right? Clearly, the difference between meagre and acceptable crew wages is not a cost issue but decision-based.

For most countries they operate from that equals extra spending just the same as 1 pack of cigarettes + 1 McD combo meal. Over the full flying package holiday for the whole family of 4 combined! Overtemps the arteries, really.

[pilotnojob08]

Hi guys!

Anyone can help with Avion express Assessements?Airline assessment;

• Psychometric

• Cognitive

• Technical

• Interview

• FSTD

Where we can fine similiar tests. Anyone did already ?

NTR Pilot assessment

Thanks in Advance!

[WhatShortage]

Originally Posted by pilotnojob08

Hi guys!

Anyone can help with Avion express Assessements?Airline assessment;

• Psychometric

• Cognitive

• Technical

• Interview

• FSTD

Where we can fine similiar tests. Anyone did already ?

NTR Pilot assessment

Thanks in Advance!

Cut-e or AON test, many examples on YouTube, very basic and as every other airline except lufthansa group ( won't get into that kind of astronaut assessment).
Technical if you're fresh from school should be fine, atpl in general. Normal interview about what you've done weaknesses strong.. Quite basic.

Everything is straightforward, if you're fine you'll get in. If you're below average odds are you won't pass.
They prefer either type rated with hours or no type, as they get the most profit out of those. Type with no hours = expensive training.

[reverse21]

Happy new year!

Originally Posted by pilotnojob08

Hi guys!

Anyone can help with Avion express Assessements?Airline assessment;

• Psychometric

• Cognitive

• Technical

• Interview

• FSTD

Where we can fine similiar tests. Anyone did already ?

NTR Pilot assessment

Thanks in Advance!

Hi pilotnojob08!

As stated by WhatShortage first email you will receive is a scandlearn link with the psychometric tests. I don't know if you applied for the are Lingus fist officer position, but the CUT -E I bought for that assessment was perfectly fine for the Avion Express test. I would highly recommend you to practice all the tests from pilotassesments.com except the tunnel and the multitasking with listening.

You will be told to follow the tests in order while in a teams session with an Avion Express manager with many other candidates. Of course they insist that the webcams must be on all the time. Once everybody is ready, mics muted and you will be told to start with the technical part. In my personal case was the ATPL theory which I studied with pilotassesments.com and fast-track atpl (the 500 need to know questions). More or less I would say is just enough. Time is given 40 mins for 60 questions I would say but can't remember well.

There are a ton of tests so, just breathe, take time and read carefully everything.

There are some comprehension tests including where you must read a text and ​select the correct option from those give. A personality test too, where you must chose if you agree or disagree with the statements give. They offer you to choose your native language. There are many maths exercises where 6 businesses were given with different benefits in different years and you must get the percentages, shares, etc

And pretty much that's all. After you pass this part, you will be given an email asking for a day that suits you for the interview with the company psychologist. Different type os questions will be asked regarding to your personality test, your CV, what you're actually doing, emergencies had and how you solved them, any problems with subjects, the worst part of the learning process, etc...

After the company psychologist, it arrives an email for the HR team interview.

After that it comes the SIM and if everything goes well, you're inn.

I hope to have helped you a bit with this process. I understand your point, there is no much information about it on the net. Don't hesitate to reply to the thread in case you need any more information.

I wish you the best of luck!!