Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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From: Ireland
A missed pension is hardly going to bother a man who is, as close as make no difference, a billionaire and hovering around number 8 on the Sunday Times Irish rich list. He was one of the first in Ryanair to forego his final salary pension, years before he forced everyone else to follow suit. Besides, his pay is way below other comparable executives in similar scale positions.
His fortune was founded in the very early days when he negotiated a deal for a percentage of the profit with the Ryans. A deal that could not continue when Ryanair went public, and therefore was converted into a sizeable chunk of shares.
He is probably no longer in it for the money, but it does give him a powerbase and a platform where others reports/listens to/worries about his opinions and what he has to say. Maybe the time of enjoying that is coming to an end.
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From: 60 north
If RYR call people that are in sick liars, just as the Flu season starts that is smart.
And a safety hazard.
And deny them to DeadHead home.
So with the same logic they can not DH inbound to start a duty at the end of a cold. Super.
What is next? A stool sample if stomach problem, send by Company Mail!
That could end up with dirty money,,,,
How about we close that can of worms! ( and germs)
And a safety hazard.
And deny them to DeadHead home.
So with the same logic they can not DH inbound to start a duty at the end of a cold. Super.
What is next? A stool sample if stomach problem, send by Company Mail!
That could end up with dirty money,,,,
How about we close that can of worms! ( and germs)
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From: UK
If FR cabin crew get paid so much how come every time there is a drop of snow flights get cancelled in their droves. Nothing operational just the fact the local busses are stuck / cancelled so the Cabin crew cannot get to work.
ODeary and spin go together
ODeary and spin go together
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From: Not Aviation House
That just makes me 
sick to the pit of my stomach. When I worked in that quagmire of a so-called airline I witnessed young, new, bright cabin crew (male and female) from many different countries reduced to tears, talked down to, and basically ripped apart by disgusting bully base supervisors who's attitude can only be described as abhorrent!
It was VERY upsetting to watch.
This has been going on for long over a decade! And lets not fool ourselves here nor question this Daily Telegraph article - that article is 100% true and correct!
This sadistic, bullying culture doesn't come from within one RYR "base" - it comes form the top! The very top! From MOL - who has made all his profits from standing on the necks of crew - and all his other evil sheep at the top with him!
It's hard not to feel deep-seeded disdain for such a sick and twisted airline management culture!
THERE IS A MASSIVE RISK TO SAFETY HERE: As a captain it is my duty to absolutely ensure that all my crew FO, pursor and juniors are "on the ball", clewed in, focussed and know their stuff. And yet where is the certainty in knowing my crew are of sound mind and not distracted should an emergency evacuation be required, or if a rapid decompression occurred, on-board smoke, a fire, fumes, bomb threat... or any other non-normal situation - but all the cabin crew can think of is that viscious cowardly borderline "corporal punishment" they just received from some sick base supervisor who was given strict instructions from top management to do so! "Safety first" - gimme a break!
MOL has to go along with his twisted bullyboy cronies if any good is to be made of what is - at the moment - a nasty ass "airline".
sick to the pit of my stomach. When I worked in that quagmire of a so-called airline I witnessed young, new, bright cabin crew (male and female) from many different countries reduced to tears, talked down to, and basically ripped apart by disgusting bully base supervisors who's attitude can only be described as abhorrent! It was VERY upsetting to watch.
This has been going on for long over a decade! And lets not fool ourselves here nor question this Daily Telegraph article - that article is 100% true and correct!
This sadistic, bullying culture doesn't come from within one RYR "base" - it comes form the top! The very top! From MOL - who has made all his profits from standing on the necks of crew - and all his other evil sheep at the top with him!
It's hard not to feel deep-seeded disdain for such a sick and twisted airline management culture!
THERE IS A MASSIVE RISK TO SAFETY HERE: As a captain it is my duty to absolutely ensure that all my crew FO, pursor and juniors are "on the ball", clewed in, focussed and know their stuff. And yet where is the certainty in knowing my crew are of sound mind and not distracted should an emergency evacuation be required, or if a rapid decompression occurred, on-board smoke, a fire, fumes, bomb threat... or any other non-normal situation - but all the cabin crew can think of is that viscious cowardly borderline "corporal punishment" they just received from some sick base supervisor who was given strict instructions from top management to do so! "Safety first" - gimme a
break!MOL has to go along with his twisted bullyboy cronies if any good is to be made of what is - at the moment - a nasty ass "airline".
Would the regulator NOT BE INTERESTED in this sort of thing? You mentioned it affects flight safety.
Surely if true there are laws against bullying?
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From: Cloud Cookoo Land
There’s many laws against quite a number of things.
However this is what Andrew Haines, CAA’s CEO, thinks about FR and their legal obligations
https://www.caa.co.uk/News/CAA-response-to-Ryanair-consumer-commitments/
FR spend a humongous amount on legal costs and appear content to do so. The collateral damage of doing business their way.
However this is what Andrew Haines, CAA’s CEO, thinks about FR and their legal obligations
https://www.caa.co.uk/News/CAA-response-to-Ryanair-consumer-commitments/
FR spend a humongous amount on legal costs and appear content to do so. The collateral damage of doing business their way.
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From: Isla Grande
Didn't FR spent some money and great effort to "trace" pprune posters for "defamation" ?
https://www.sundaypost.com/news/uk-n...safety-claims/
https://www.sundaypost.com/news/uk-n...safety-claims/
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From: Asia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsurmmelCC8
Omg, I cant help it loool
this interview was a few years go, in resume: pilots/cabin crew do not leave, they are very happy.
Omg, I cant help it loool
this interview was a few years go, in resume: pilots/cabin crew do not leave, they are very happy.
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From: mids
Depends what the crew want to do there are tons of 737 and airbus jobs out there for experienced crew.
Even if they do decide to go across its 2-3 months before they will be through the training system and line training never mind signed off.
For those requiring a full type rating instead of differences training (which will be the majority) it will probably be longer. Currently they must a have 3-5 month backlog in training.
it certainly won't cure the problem overnight.
Even if they do decide to go across its 2-3 months before they will be through the training system and line training never mind signed off.
For those requiring a full type rating instead of differences training (which will be the majority) it will probably be longer. Currently they must a have 3-5 month backlog in training.
it certainly won't cure the problem overnight.
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From: 60 north
Monarch pilots for RYR!
Firstly , my condolences to our Monarch colleagues.
I lost my job to bankruptcy, and it is a personal disaster.
As far as this helping RYR it is negative.
Why?:
MON has 35 AC and max 450 pilots. All Airbus.
This slots nicely into Easy,Wizz Vueling SASneo AerLingus etc plus wourldwide.
At best 50 will go for RYR.
The other will go to RYRs competitors to slot right into MON abandoned routes that RYR normally would take in a heartbeat.
But they cant, no crew , plenty aircraft. Tough luck for RYR.
Good lock to all Monarch pilots.
The 737 is a model T Ford.
Stay on the Airbus.
I lost my job to bankruptcy, and it is a personal disaster.
As far as this helping RYR it is negative.
Why?:
MON has 35 AC and max 450 pilots. All Airbus.
This slots nicely into Easy,Wizz Vueling SASneo AerLingus etc plus wourldwide.
At best 50 will go for RYR.
The other will go to RYRs competitors to slot right into MON abandoned routes that RYR normally would take in a heartbeat.
But they cant, no crew , plenty aircraft. Tough luck for RYR.
Good lock to all Monarch pilots.
The 737 is a model T Ford.
Stay on the Airbus.
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From: Asia
Monarch flights cancelled as airline ceases trading - BBC News
and then some talk about pilot shortage lol
and then some talk about pilot shortage lol
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From: Stansted
The 737 is the tractor of the aviation world and I think its widely accepted the Airbus is far more refined beast.
Only problem with Airbus it was built by engineers for engineers. Whereas Boeing built a plane for pilots.
"Greenlights". No laughing matter thats for sure been there.
Anyway good luck to the Monarch folk.
Only problem with Airbus it was built by engineers for engineers. Whereas Boeing built a plane for pilots.
"Greenlights". No laughing matter thats for sure been there.
Anyway good luck to the Monarch folk.
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From: UK
To be honest, who really cares how antiquated the 738 is compared to the Airbus, the Monarch guys and girls probably won't care either, all they will want is employment and a wage coming in for Christmas, be that on an Airbus, 738 or a Dash 8.
Grennlights, you probably didn't mean to laugh, maybe it's the irony of what's happened and the industry is still short of pilots, I don't know, but seriously, no need.
Grennlights, you probably didn't mean to laugh, maybe it's the irony of what's happened and the industry is still short of pilots, I don't know, but seriously, no need.
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