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I really don't understand sometimes if pilots are just lazy or what.
Google, type "Norwegian relief captain requirments"
Here we go:
Pilot Job: B787 Relief Captain Norwegian - Type rated & Non Type Rated! B787 Relief Captains Norwegian Long Haul A/S - Rishworth Aviation
Google, type "Norwegian relief captain requirments"
Here we go:
Pilot Job: B787 Relief Captain Norwegian - Type rated & Non Type Rated! B787 Relief Captains Norwegian Long Haul A/S - Rishworth Aviation
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Use all means to seek information on any Norwegian “employment” adventure. Despite a company policy soliciting initiative (OM A 1.4.1), Norwegian would prefer you didn’t use it. A willingness to accept Norwegian’s endemic and morally reprehensible management hypocrisy from the CEO down, will be more beneficial. Another prime example:-
“…Kjos believes several American politicians who criticize him are bought and paid for”
http://www.dn.no/nyheter/naringsliv/2014/09/03/1407/kjos-mener-kritikerne-er-kjpt-og-betalt
DN News reported the Kjos announcement in 2014. In 2014 Norwegian bought and paid 90K to former US Deputy Assistant Secretary for Transportation Affairs, John R. Byerly, to sell Norwegian’s labor scheme and influence the DOT in the NAI US permit application:-
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=F45753&year=2014
Norwegian also bought and paid Mr. Byerly 60k in 2015 and has so far bought and paid Mr. Byerly 40K in 2016.
“…Kjos believes several American politicians who criticize him are bought and paid for”
http://www.dn.no/nyheter/naringsliv/2014/09/03/1407/kjos-mener-kritikerne-er-kjpt-og-betalt
DN News reported the Kjos announcement in 2014. In 2014 Norwegian bought and paid 90K to former US Deputy Assistant Secretary for Transportation Affairs, John R. Byerly, to sell Norwegian’s labor scheme and influence the DOT in the NAI US permit application:-
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=F45753&year=2014
Norwegian also bought and paid Mr. Byerly 60k in 2015 and has so far bought and paid Mr. Byerly 40K in 2016.
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Use all means to seek information on any Norwegian “employment” adventure. Despite a company policy soliciting initiative (OM A 1.4.1), Norwegian would prefer you didn’t use it. A willingness to accept Norwegian’s endemic and morally reprehensible management hypocrisy from the CEO down, will be more beneficial. Another prime example:-
“…Kjos believes several American politicians who criticize him are bought and paid for”
http://www.dn.no/nyheter/naringsliv/2014/09/03/1407/kjos-mener-kritikerne-er-kjpt-og-betalt
DN News reported the Kjos announcement in 2014. In 2014 Norwegian bought and paid 90K to former US Deputy Assistant Secretary for Transportation Affairs, John R. Byerly, to sell Norwegian’s labor scheme and influence the DOT in the NAI US permit application:-
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=F45753&year=2014
Norwegian also bought and paid Mr. Byerly 60k in 2015 and has so far bought and paid Mr. Byerly 40K in 2016.
“…Kjos believes several American politicians who criticize him are bought and paid for”
http://www.dn.no/nyheter/naringsliv/2014/09/03/1407/kjos-mener-kritikerne-er-kjpt-og-betalt
DN News reported the Kjos announcement in 2014. In 2014 Norwegian bought and paid 90K to former US Deputy Assistant Secretary for Transportation Affairs, John R. Byerly, to sell Norwegian’s labor scheme and influence the DOT in the NAI US permit application:-
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=F45753&year=2014
Norwegian also bought and paid Mr. Byerly 60k in 2015 and has so far bought and paid Mr. Byerly 40K in 2016.
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Those conventional airlines don’t make statements to the press criticizing Kjos for paying lobbyists while paying lobbyists themselves – that would be hypocrisy, a moral failing at which Norwegian’s management excels.
Let me remind you of the biggest morally reprehensible hypocrisy of the Norwegian regime:
“We place great importance on ensuring compliance with employee’s basic human rights as outlined in the International Labor Organization's core conventions”
http://www.norwegian.com/uk/about/company/corporate-responsibility/human-worth/
It's possible the so-called “representation” of Norwegian’s agency pilots is suffering the equivalent of a ‘Stockholm syndrome’. They certainly seem cooperative in their continued labor rights abuse by Norwegian.
Let me remind you of the biggest morally reprehensible hypocrisy of the Norwegian regime:
“We place great importance on ensuring compliance with employee’s basic human rights as outlined in the International Labor Organization's core conventions”
http://www.norwegian.com/uk/about/company/corporate-responsibility/human-worth/
It's possible the so-called “representation” of Norwegian’s agency pilots is suffering the equivalent of a ‘Stockholm syndrome’. They certainly seem cooperative in their continued labor rights abuse by Norwegian.
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Not a very realistic Sim for a commercial airline operation. Push push push until you start making mistakes. I got the gig more by luck and an excellent FO with me, than anything else but many good guys will fail this. Group exercise total waste of time.
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Not a very realistic Sim for a commercial airline operation. Push push push until you start making mistakes. I got the gig more by luck and an excellent FO with me, than anything else but many good guys will fail this. Group exercise total waste of time.
It just so happens that I spoke with a young man (younger than me) who had just completed the NLH sim check in OSL a few months ago. He told me that it was quite straightforward and fair and devoid of too many problems. He passed by the way.
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"Is there much chance of Norwegian 737 drivers being recruited onto the 787 , and if so has there been many in the last while.
I know there is a lot more 787 on the way."
Same money, worse roster, cr@p hotels . . . Er, why would you want to ? except aviation version of "little dick syndrome" . . .well, maybe to "move on", but you can do that anyhow from the 737 ¡f you are incapable of understanding the miserable life that awaits you in Emirates Etc. . . .
"Is there much chance of Norwegian 737 drivers being recruited onto the 787 , and if so has there been many in the last while.
I know there is a lot more 787 on the way."
Same money, worse roster, cr@p hotels . . . Er, why would you want to ? except aviation version of "little dick syndrome" . . .well, maybe to "move on", but you can do that anyhow from the 737 ¡f you are incapable of understanding the miserable life that awaits you in Emirates Etc. . . .
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Depends what you are looking for stress is not the issue. Stress can be applied in many ways. If this was your first job then yes you want to see if a guy can pole around, fly a raw data ILS etc but this is for a 787. You want a guy that can identify a problem then calmly and systematically work through that problem to return to safe flight. Ypu want to see if he can use initiative to work out whats going on, how much time is available, prioritise. Throwing in atc calls like we need you on the ground in 3 minutes is just BS.
I don't think I demonstrated anything that made me stand out as a good captain. Just my opinion of course.
I don't think I demonstrated anything that made me stand out as a good captain. Just my opinion of course.
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Shame that after tax for a DEC it is about 5000 pounds/ US$6500.
So sad our industry has come to this yet plenty of applicants. I wonder what the attrition rate is? With a 787 rating Vietnam pays more than double. Don't NLH have an issue with guys leaving within a short period. Even with any bond, you'd be financially ahead very very quickly.
So sad our industry has come to this yet plenty of applicants. I wonder what the attrition rate is? With a 787 rating Vietnam pays more than double. Don't NLH have an issue with guys leaving within a short period. Even with any bond, you'd be financially ahead very very quickly.
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What i have seen/heard so far there are basically three large groups of applicants who are accepting this package:
1.) F/O s mainly with 737 experience from Ryanair looking for the big shiny jet
2.) CRZ CMD mainly frustrated high seniority FO's looking for a fast uprade - stuck on the right seat for many many years -not making the move to FE/Asia - want stay in EU
3.) CMD mainly early retired CP from all majors in EU who realized that sitting at home with 56 was a bad idea and golfing isn't really that cool.
1.) F/O s mainly with 737 experience from Ryanair looking for the big shiny jet
2.) CRZ CMD mainly frustrated high seniority FO's looking for a fast uprade - stuck on the right seat for many many years -not making the move to FE/Asia - want stay in EU
3.) CMD mainly early retired CP from all majors in EU who realized that sitting at home with 56 was a bad idea and golfing isn't really that cool.
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When they brief the simulator assessment they are very straight forward what they are looking for, how you work together under stress. The flying part is less interesting. The idea with smoke in cabin or a heart attack scenario is for you to safely come back as soon as possible. If you in the meantime keep the blue side up, that's all they look for flying wise. On the other hand, they have a lot of boxes to tick regarding your CRM, captaincy and communications (interpersonal). If the sim would have been about pressing buttons and reading checklist, they could have skipped it since all coming to them have a lot of hours and have done that a few times before...
They want to see that the person they meet in a relaxed interview is more or less the same they see in the simulator with (perhaps unusual) stress put on the crew. We all know that a lot of pilots change drastically when they are under stress. The question is; how do they change? In a good way or bad way.
They want to see that the person they meet in a relaxed interview is more or less the same they see in the simulator with (perhaps unusual) stress put on the crew. We all know that a lot of pilots change drastically when they are under stress. The question is; how do they change? In a good way or bad way.
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Hi Boeing
This reasoning is highly questionable: there's no proof or indication that somebody that perform well in the box, with some implausible scenarios, will have the same perfomance when it's for real and vice-versa. Sometimes it's exactly the opposite: many guys that saved the day weren't aces in the box at all. After all, the box it's a little more than a big videogame.
I read some place that even heros like Sully weren't exactly sim top guns, but average guys like most of us.
What make the difference is the decison making process, which assessment is much more complex than flooding the box with thick smoke, multiple failures and shouting.
But, hey, it's aviation, where there's always somebody trying to reinvent the wheel.
I read some place that even heros like Sully weren't exactly sim top guns, but average guys like most of us.
What make the difference is the decison making process, which assessment is much more complex than flooding the box with thick smoke, multiple failures and shouting.
But, hey, it's aviation, where there's always somebody trying to reinvent the wheel.
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Not really FullForward, the scenarios they have are not unreasonable at all, standard OPC material which any experienced pilot shouldn't have a problem with. They put together two people from different airlines, different countries, both not native english and at least one of them not current or experienced on the 737 and expect that you deal with the situation as team and are able to communicate effectively.
Time is a little bit on the short side and thats another bit pressure put on the applicant. Still better than have an experienced pilot flying raw data VOR Holdings and Course Intercepts or BS like that.
Time is a little bit on the short side and thats another bit pressure put on the applicant. Still better than have an experienced pilot flying raw data VOR Holdings and Course Intercepts or BS like that.