Jet2 Autumn 2014
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Well said DK. I've still got an application in from 3 years ago and still waiting to hear either way lol! ; )
I know people that are still in the said hold pool that haven't heard a thing from them. If they require the rumoured numbers for next year you'd think the HR team would be working 24/7 getting the yes or no's out ASAP.
I know people that are still in the said hold pool that haven't heard a thing from them. If they require the rumoured numbers for next year you'd think the HR team would be working 24/7 getting the yes or no's out ASAP.
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From: Outta town
P.S You reap what you sow. If J2 HR/ personal are so condescending as to not even make the effort to simply send out a courtesy email re hold pool prospects after an applicant has applied, exposed themselves to their psycosoddomy, then it says a whole lot more about this bunch than anything written on prune.
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Highfive, you might be surprised how many F/Os in the Gulf would be interested in returning home having discovered that the streets certainly aren't paved with gold and the "tax free" salary doesn't go as far as they thought it might. Throw in a sadistic company culture and 7+ years to command along with 95 hour rosters- suddenly lo-cost in Europe begins to look quite attractive.
Yes, they would take a pay drop but what price living at home?
Yes, they would take a pay drop but what price living at home?
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From: UK
At least you got a reply after 12 months, Drag King!
I know type-rated people who passed the assessment day last year and didn't even get told they had passed it until they pushed for an answer!
J2 didn't even come back to them after that - most of them are very happy DECs at Ryanair now.
I know type-rated people who passed the assessment day last year and didn't even get told they had passed it until they pushed for an answer!
J2 didn't even come back to them after that - most of them are very happy DECs at Ryanair now.
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From: Centre of Universe
Jet2 Autumn 2014
The only issue Jet 2 will have is the training pipeline. People will want to join them as despite what is being said they remain an 'attractive' proposition. With the turnover plenty of Commands, new FO's, training opportunity etc.
There will always be attrition unless they try and arrest the situation thru any initiatives to keep crews happy (good luck with that ) . The only good news is that crews that apply will be aware they work hard in the summer and have frequent roster changes would you believe 😮😮😮
There will always be attrition unless they try and arrest the situation thru any initiatives to keep crews happy (good luck with that ) . The only good news is that crews that apply will be aware they work hard in the summer and have frequent roster changes would you believe 😮😮😮
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From: Holland
- Type Rating fully covered including hotel/breakfast/mileage
- 3 year reducing bond starts after final line check (used to be £28k but I think it may be less now they have their own training facility)
- You get 50% (of 100%) basic salary whilst training and sector/duty on top whilst line training. Usually takes 3-6 months depending on time of year. They gave some courses a financial bonus because the training went on too long. I heard their cutoff is 13 weeks now then they give you full basic salary anyway (but not 100% certain on that). Full salary (or 70% etc) after FLC
- F/O Wage starts around £50kish (or 70% of that if that's your contract). 70% seems to last for anything from a few months to 15 months
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From: far too low
Jet2 Autumn 2014
Have they changed the bond again then. Very recently the bond started reducing a year after final line check. So the 3 year bond was effectively 4. If you find 2 jet2 pilots on the same contract you probably deserve a medal.
And to those who never heard back. I'm honestly not joking, they probably lost your application.
And to those who never heard back. I'm honestly not joking, they probably lost your application.
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From: In your head.
Gorter, did you ever read your own contract?!
The bond does start reducing after a year but it reduces over the following two years. Ergo, effectively three years.
The bond does start reducing after a year but it reduces over the following two years. Ergo, effectively three years.
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From: Button Moon
Until recently the bonds aka 'Training Agreements' were over 3 years, non reducing for 12 months from the date of final line check. This means the balance reduced on a pro rata basis over 24 months. So it is most definitely a 3 year agreement, not 4. However, I have it on very good authority that these have now been amended to start reducing from the date of final line check.
The whole 'Training Agreement' is a joke as far as I'm concerned. Ok if the company has invested something in you or a Type Rating but for Type Rated joiners the whole thing is a disgrace.
Cue the "you didn't have to sign it brigade"....
The whole 'Training Agreement' is a joke as far as I'm concerned. Ok if the company has invested something in you or a Type Rating but for Type Rated joiners the whole thing is a disgrace.
Cue the "you didn't have to sign it brigade"....
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From: EU
Jet2 will be visiting the UAE on a recruitment drive
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From: Location, Location
Jet2 Autumn 2014
Seems there's a big drive for experienced non-rated DECs on at the moment so possibly will be dealing with FOs a little later on in the autumn.
They're out in the Middle East for the next couple of weeks.
They're out in the Middle East for the next couple of weeks.
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From: In Space
Im assuming on the hope to convince guys to join on a 70% contrac,t with a 3 year bond and 50% during your training, and then to have the privilege of getting taxed 40%
Good luck is all I can say.
Nice holiday for the recruitment team though
Good luck is all I can say. Nice holiday for the recruitment team though
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From: Location, Location
It's a win-win as Jet2 know that the guys they're getting will be in it for the long-term and won't be jumping ship for an overseas contract or downgrading to the right seat in BA in the future.
Won't be for everybody but no harm in checking things out at The Westin roadshow over a cold beer or two
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From: Button Moon
It's 100% contracts for experienced Captains, even non-rated. Less pay, more tax for sure... But by the time you've balanced it all out the chance to be based back in the UK at your airport of choice swings it for a lot of guys. No other airline can offer this at the moment so I'm sure a few will take advantage of it.
It's a win-win as Jet2 know that the guys they're getting will be in it for the long-term and won't be jumping ship for an overseas contract or downgrading to the right seat in BA in the future.
Won't be for everybody but no harm in checking things out at The Westin roadshow over a cold beer or two
It's a win-win as Jet2 know that the guys they're getting will be in it for the long-term and won't be jumping ship for an overseas contract or downgrading to the right seat in BA in the future.
Won't be for everybody but no harm in checking things out at The Westin roadshow over a cold beer or two
Are FR not offering 100% FR Contracts at the base of choice for DEC's? Are EZY not offering the same at LGW? I appreciate that a LGW base isn't idea for everyone but it certainly captures a very large number when compared to LBA.
I agree it's a novel idea and in principal it sounds like a good one but at a time when EK are parking up aircraft due to a lack of crew, I'm surprised its being allowed to happen at all.
It's going to be an interesting 12-18 months at Jet2. There aren't that many pilots leaving at the mo and while it's not insignificant as a percentage, MANY more resignations will arrive at LFFH when the rest show their hand over the coming year or so. Meanwhile, management will continue to tell themselves that they're doing a wonderful job and pilots are just fickle creatures bouncing from one shiny thing to the next. The more pressing concern as far as I can see is the number of experienced, long term senior cabin crew leaving for pastures new. Many going off to admin jobs and giving up flying altogether after being treated so poorly. Experience is required on both sides of the flight deck door after all.