Jet2 Autumn 2014
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Jet2 Autumn 2014
165 crew required = 82 crews divided by between say 5 and 6 crews per aircraft = a bloody lot of aircraft to recruit for let alone train as mentioned. If its true then the flow has to be reversed
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From: Wherever Crewing send me
The Crew...
the current crop of remaining FOs who couldnt get into BA ?
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From: In your head.
Happily I believe the grand total of nobody will pay your advice the slightest bit of attention.
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From: High n Blighty
I believe they will bin an applicant if they fail to meet the companies expectations with regards the psychometric evaluation. With around 220 questions, the structure will certainly indicate any undesirable qualities a applicant may have.
I actually think these psychometric test could have far reaching implications on a pilots career. Airlines talk. So do licensing authorities. Information is so easily shared now, and information is power.
I would expect Jet2 are looking for a very specific type of employee, judging by the anount of effort they have put into devising the online assesments.
Clearly they cant say they want a 30- 35 year old 2000 hour captain, single with no debts or hidden agendas. But the tests will allow them to reduce the pile of CVs without rejection based on race, age or religion.
Remember the equal opportunities part of the application. I mean who are jet2 to ask me wether im bi sexual asian . Its HR none sense .
I actually think these psychometric test could have far reaching implications on a pilots career. Airlines talk. So do licensing authorities. Information is so easily shared now, and information is power.
I would expect Jet2 are looking for a very specific type of employee, judging by the anount of effort they have put into devising the online assesments.
Clearly they cant say they want a 30- 35 year old 2000 hour captain, single with no debts or hidden agendas. But the tests will allow them to reduce the pile of CVs without rejection based on race, age or religion.
Remember the equal opportunities part of the application. I mean who are jet2 to ask me wether im bi sexual asian . Its HR none sense .
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From: Location, Location
Seriously though, airlines and authorities simply don't have tumecto share the psych data and wouldn't e stupid enough to believe it could indicate a madman anyway. My guess is Andreas Lubitz could easily outwitted the 220 questions... It's just simply a way for HR to whittle down the applicants to a more manageable level.
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From: England
Does grate when people imply young and single without kids equates to somehow being of a more stable state of mind.I'd argue if our German friend had kids of his own he may not have found it an acceptable thing to do !
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From: High n Blighty
Im not implying that single are more stable. I was simply stating, that if Jet2 had a preference, it would be for 30 somethings, single and no hidden agendas, i.e. huge debt or possible .gambling habit They cannot state this in their adverts, equal opportunities etc. However, its unlikely they will recruit anyone simply to be politically correct. By using a comprehensive selection process, they can legally whittle out the undesirables, i.e. wrong race, age, or even body mass. They of course are not unique in allegedly using a selection "process" allowing circumvention of so called equal opportunities for all.
Singles are preferred by LoCos as they have less responsibilities and therefore can tolerate the ups and downs of the seasonal business that is say Jet2. I don't remember getting a discount during the winter from my private school, nor any mortgage reduction. The salaries are simply too low for todays pilots to enjoy the lifestyles and securities offered 20-30 years ago. When I was a kid, Pilots were always thought of as dashing types in their E Types, with their Surrey detached mansions.
The reality of the modern day Jet2 pilot, apparently, is a 10 year old Daihatsu, driving to going to the local OFSTED criticised school, with a rusting Aldi shopping trolly in their front law. Oh what aspirations some have lol.
Singles are preferred by LoCos as they have less responsibilities and therefore can tolerate the ups and downs of the seasonal business that is say Jet2. I don't remember getting a discount during the winter from my private school, nor any mortgage reduction. The salaries are simply too low for todays pilots to enjoy the lifestyles and securities offered 20-30 years ago. When I was a kid, Pilots were always thought of as dashing types in their E Types, with their Surrey detached mansions.
The reality of the modern day Jet2 pilot, apparently, is a 10 year old Daihatsu, driving to going to the local OFSTED criticised school, with a rusting Aldi shopping trolly in their front law. Oh what aspirations some have lol.
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Hence why every airline on the planet is now struggling to fill a position, less and less people were prepared to invest so much time and effort to fill.
BA, Emirates, Ryanair etc are all in desperate need of experienced crews and are now finally prepared to start paying a more apt going rate. The boot folks, is now firmly on the other foot, and we should keep it firmly on the neck of those who try and diminish our t&cs purely to fund the grotesque greed of the few at the top.
BA, Emirates, Ryanair etc are all in desperate need of experienced crews and are now finally prepared to start paying a more apt going rate. The boot folks, is now firmly on the other foot, and we should keep it firmly on the neck of those who try and diminish our t&cs purely to fund the grotesque greed of the few at the top.
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The reality of the modern day Jet2 pilot, apparently, is a 10 year old Daihatsu, driving to going to the local OFSTED criticised school, with a rusting Aldi shopping trolly in their front law. Oh what aspirations some have lol.
What a lot of sh1te. LOL 😩
What a lot of sh1te. LOL 😩
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From: UK
I was simply stating, that if Jet2 had a preference, it would be for 30 somethings, single and no hidden agendas
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From: The Moon
Hello,
Seriously contemplating Jet2 for family reasons and would appreciate it if somebody could help me out with a few questions in return for beer! Experienced FO, 3000+ heavy, but no Boeing.
I have read the entire thread but would be grateful if people could help me specifically with the following.
1. Understand summers are "crazy busy", winters quiet. In complete confidence, would somebody be kind enough to send me a sample roster of each? I would just like to get a handle on start/end/duration/sectors in a typical FDP, amount of time sitting around on the ground etc.. Winter: Lots of home/airport standby or just pure days off? Roughly how many? Blocks? Requests etc: How many, if any, weekends can a Junior/Mid/Senior guy expect to get off a month? Days off: Fixed after roster publication I assume?
2. Coming home purely for improvement in lifestyle with a requirement to be based c.60 min radius LBA and home most nights. In truth, even 70% would work for me. Given this, is there anybody else you would be strongly considering over Jet2? P.s I am not paying for any rating out of principle!
3. Heard rumours of Airbus orders. Any update on this?
Anything else relevant would be appreciated.
Cheers.
Seriously contemplating Jet2 for family reasons and would appreciate it if somebody could help me out with a few questions in return for beer! Experienced FO, 3000+ heavy, but no Boeing.
I have read the entire thread but would be grateful if people could help me specifically with the following.
1. Understand summers are "crazy busy", winters quiet. In complete confidence, would somebody be kind enough to send me a sample roster of each? I would just like to get a handle on start/end/duration/sectors in a typical FDP, amount of time sitting around on the ground etc.. Winter: Lots of home/airport standby or just pure days off? Roughly how many? Blocks? Requests etc: How many, if any, weekends can a Junior/Mid/Senior guy expect to get off a month? Days off: Fixed after roster publication I assume?
2. Coming home purely for improvement in lifestyle with a requirement to be based c.60 min radius LBA and home most nights. In truth, even 70% would work for me. Given this, is there anybody else you would be strongly considering over Jet2? P.s I am not paying for any rating out of principle!
3. Heard rumours of Airbus orders. Any update on this?
Anything else relevant would be appreciated.
Cheers.
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From: Somewhere
Understand summers are "crazy busy", winters quiet
Typically 2 sector days.
How busy you'll be is base dependant. If you are at a base with lots of trainers, I don't imagine you'll be getting much flying at the moment - or next year with the volume of recruitment planned.
amount of time sitting around on the ground etc
Winters are quiet, expect plenty of home standby, and probably airport standby if MAN or LBA based.
Heard rumours of Airbus orders. Any update on this?
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From: Holland
Hi guys,
Have had a browse through this thread, but just wanted to confirm a couple of things for Jet2 non rated applicants. Currently a 747 FO in Asia looking for a potential route home. So just had 3 quick questions.. Do the company cover the cost of the type rating? From reading on here it seems they do but no pay during training (approx 4 months?) just wanted to confirm this.. And also is the pilot jobs network salary scale fairly accurate? So starting wage would be around £50k?
Any info would be hugely appreciated.
Have had a browse through this thread, but just wanted to confirm a couple of things for Jet2 non rated applicants. Currently a 747 FO in Asia looking for a potential route home. So just had 3 quick questions.. Do the company cover the cost of the type rating? From reading on here it seems they do but no pay during training (approx 4 months?) just wanted to confirm this.. And also is the pilot jobs network salary scale fairly accurate? So starting wage would be around £50k?
Any info would be hugely appreciated.
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From: UK
Hi guys,
Have had a browse through this thread, but just wanted to confirm a couple of things for Jet2 non rated applicants. Currently a 747 FO in Asia looking for a potential route home. So just had 3 quick questions.. Do the company cover the cost of the type rating? From reading on here it seems they do but no pay during training (approx 4 months?) just wanted to confirm this.. And also is the pilot jobs network salary scale fairly accurate? So starting wage would be around £50k?
Any info would be hugely appreciated.
Have had a browse through this thread, but just wanted to confirm a couple of things for Jet2 non rated applicants. Currently a 747 FO in Asia looking for a potential route home. So just had 3 quick questions.. Do the company cover the cost of the type rating? From reading on here it seems they do but no pay during training (approx 4 months?) just wanted to confirm this.. And also is the pilot jobs network salary scale fairly accurate? So starting wage would be around £50k?
Any info would be hugely appreciated.
- Type Rating fully covered including hotel/breakfast/mileage
- 3 year reducing bond starts after final line check (used to be £28k but I think it may be less now they have their own training facility)
- You get 50% (of 100%) basic salary whilst training and sector/duty on top whilst line training. Usually takes 3-6 months depending on time of year. They gave some courses a financial bonus because the training went on too long. I heard their cutoff is 13 weeks now then they give you full basic salary anyway (but not 100% certain on that). Full salary (or 70% etc) after FLC
- F/O Wage starts around £50kish (or 70% of that if that's your contract). 70% seems to last for anything from a few months to 15 months
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From: somewhere
Recruitment road shows now planned for Dubai and Abu Dhabi in the hope that some of those looking to get home will be tempted. Things must be getting tight for such drastic action to be taken.
Are they not getting enough applicants?
DK
