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Old 17th Jan 2015, 20:28
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Angry

Many within Low Quality House, Training Department and The Mint very much in a "Jet2 world" of their own, they'll spin what they want out there! The reality is a lucky many leaving for better options and "quality" flight crew options are slim pickings!

Better delve into that Pilot Apprentice pool again!

Ooooo, the "Weekly Presentation"...
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Old 18th Jan 2015, 10:41
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I believe that Jet2 have just about filled all the perm slots, they always have a bunch of Zenon contractors due to the flexibility this offers for the summer season.
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Old 20th Jan 2015, 15:01
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Thumbs down

I was told upto 20 of those Pilot Apprentice Sprogg types joining in 2015! So that's how we're filling all those leavers!? I suppose it fits with the "pound foolish" culture!

How long before the CAA make an enquiry into the experience levels?!?
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Old 20th Jan 2015, 16:58
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Sean Dillon,

That doesn't seem to worry the CAA wrt CTC and Easy!
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Old 20th Jan 2015, 17:00
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PFO received, 4600TTL, rated and current on both B737(3100 hours on type) and B757/767(1000 hours on type) applied for both.

But got a better paid gig months ago
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Old 20th Jan 2015, 20:50
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(Sounds like) a Lucky Escape !
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 17:27
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Maxed-Out,

easyJet training department is VERY experienced, VERY established and not focussed on "niff-naff and trivia" like Jet2 (because they have no experience levels!)

And I KNOW they don't have the number of (in fact, nobody does!) "Significant Events" that Jet2 does!

Positively driving out/down the experience...

SR-22: Glad you got a better offer, although not that difficult, don't look back - Jet2 is for "losers and locals"
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 20:24
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Ouch don't hold back say what you mean..............
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 21:32
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Sean,

20 Apprentices is less than 5% of the total - not the biggest dilution in reality is it? And some of them are good - very good! If you don't like it, just leave. Or did you fail BA selection?

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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 09:19
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It was a harsh post I know, but I stand by it, it's a very odd place, although not unsurprising the more you learn and understand about the gentleman at the top, who is still in-control, despite any rumours of having a "back-bench"! Most of the issues unnecessary and it WILL have to change - good, experienced pilots come...and then go, leaving...well...don't want to upset anyone else!

Interesting assumptions from those within like Station_Calling that we are all at this airline because we have "failed" to get out elsewhere! Really doesn't say much about what we all generally think does it?! Something to think about on ASBY eh SC?!
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 09:24
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Advert for 757 Captains & FO's has now appeared!
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 09:51
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Where has this advert appeared?

Type-rated only, or NTR invited?

Is it permanent positions or just contract agency stuff?
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 10:51
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How long before the CAA make an enquiry into the experience levels?!?
What utter rubbish. If this were the case Ezy would be grounded long ago.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 11:19
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is it permenant positions or just contract...
As my annual "Jet2/Zenon" email just arrived, sounds like contract or at the VERY best, 70%/50% salary for the first few months and add a 3 year bond if non type rated Big swerve and DELETE!
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 14:06
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Ah well, fair enough.

I would need 100% permanent and non-rated.

No go for me.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 21:52
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Dunno Sean,

too busy flying and being a loser at the moment it would seem. Not saying it was because you failed to get out, more probably you are in because your last airline failed with you in it. Still, never bite the hand that feeds you and pays your mortgage eh?

J2 has its faults, like every other company under the sun and it needs to improve, but just slagging it off publicly from within isn't going to help is it?

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Old 22nd Jan 2015, 22:07
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You sound one bitter angry person "Sean Dillon". I've worked at an overseas operator with a far worse reputation on here than Jet2, far worse. It wasn't as bad as PPRuNe would have you believe. It wasn't great and had faults but still, nice people. No matter which, I would never see myself so twisted and angry as to jump on here and call my own colleagues losers for remaining in employment within a company.

We are all just trying to carve out a groove in life, earn and support families and lifestyles that are in the fringe. Jeez. You must have had some bad crap happen to make you so bitter even towards your cohorts. Pick on the the management but don't on your fellow soldiers.
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Old 23rd Jan 2015, 21:42
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Sean Dillon. I normally just read in amusment the ongoings on PPRuNe, wondering if its really the same company that I work for that I'm reading about. However your posts show a level of contempt for the company and its staff unusual even for here.

Station Calling did not suggest that we are ALL in this company because we failed to get out, only you. It seems logical that with strength of feeling you clearly have against Jet2 you would have tried to seek employment elsewhere. As it seems all pastures are greener in your eyes, people would be justified in assuming that the pastures turned you down.

As someone happy with my base I can at least sleep easier knowing that I am labelled a local rather than a loser. I'm not quite sure what makes the rest of your colleagues who get the pleasure of your company losers, but I'm obvisouly missing something.
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Old 24th Jan 2015, 09:21
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It's when I read posts from the likes of Sean Dillon and Honiley that I realise the first 'P' in the title of this website does not stand for Professional'.
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Old 24th Jan 2015, 10:10
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I was there from the Channex days and stayed for over 10 years. I really liked it - up until my last year or two. The training was really good, the rosters, while they weren't 5/4 stable, gave plenty of variety and the pay was great. Ops, rostering and engineering were all fine and even the management were good.

The big change came when they pushed out RB as DFO and replaced him with TWE, the biggest mistake PM ever made IMHO.

Almost overnight the atmosphere changed for the worse. Treatment of staff, particularly pilots, went downhill fast and the race to the bottom started.

Just the fact that a hell of a lot of ex-Jet2 pilots are now to be found in Ryanair tells you all you need to know!

It's a shame, it used to be a great company to work for.

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