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I was told upto 20 of those Pilot Apprentice Sprogg types joining in 2015! So that's how we're filling all those leavers!? I suppose it fits with the "pound foolish" culture!
How long before the CAA make an enquiry into the experience levels?!?
How long before the CAA make an enquiry into the experience levels?!?
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Maxed-Out,
easyJet training department is VERY experienced, VERY established and not focussed on "niff-naff and trivia" like Jet2 (because they have no experience levels!)
And I KNOW they don't have the number of (in fact, nobody does!) "Significant Events" that Jet2 does!
Positively driving out/down the experience...
SR-22: Glad you got a better offer, although not that difficult, don't look back - Jet2 is for "losers and locals"
easyJet training department is VERY experienced, VERY established and not focussed on "niff-naff and trivia" like Jet2 (because they have no experience levels!)
And I KNOW they don't have the number of (in fact, nobody does!) "Significant Events" that Jet2 does!
Positively driving out/down the experience...
SR-22: Glad you got a better offer, although not that difficult, don't look back - Jet2 is for "losers and locals"
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Sean,
20 Apprentices is less than 5% of the total - not the biggest dilution in reality is it? And some of them are good - very good! If you don't like it, just leave. Or did you fail BA selection?
20 Apprentices is less than 5% of the total - not the biggest dilution in reality is it? And some of them are good - very good! If you don't like it, just leave. Or did you fail BA selection?
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I respect them for the apprentice system! Giving the newbies a chance to learn the industry and get flying. Much better than just profiteering from the rich kids like most scummy locos, the Orange one included!
May even produce a pilot that can understand the Atc slot system!
May even produce a pilot that can understand the Atc slot system!
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It was a harsh post I know, but I stand by it, it's a very odd place, although not unsurprising the more you learn and understand about the gentleman at the top, who is still in-control, despite any rumours of having a "back-bench"! Most of the issues unnecessary and it WILL have to change - good, experienced pilots come...and then go, leaving...well...don't want to upset anyone else!
Interesting assumptions from those within like Station_Calling that we are all at this airline because we have "failed" to get out elsewhere! Really doesn't say much about what we all generally think does it?! Something to think about on ASBY eh SC?!
Interesting assumptions from those within like Station_Calling that we are all at this airline because we have "failed" to get out elsewhere! Really doesn't say much about what we all generally think does it?! Something to think about on ASBY eh SC?!
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is it permenant positions or just contract...
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Dunno Sean,
too busy flying and being a loser at the moment it would seem. Not saying it was because you failed to get out, more probably you are in because your last airline failed with you in it. Still, never bite the hand that feeds you and pays your mortgage eh?
J2 has its faults, like every other company under the sun and it needs to improve, but just slagging it off publicly from within isn't going to help is it?
too busy flying and being a loser at the moment it would seem. Not saying it was because you failed to get out, more probably you are in because your last airline failed with you in it. Still, never bite the hand that feeds you and pays your mortgage eh?
J2 has its faults, like every other company under the sun and it needs to improve, but just slagging it off publicly from within isn't going to help is it?
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You sound one bitter angry person "Sean Dillon". I've worked at an overseas operator with a far worse reputation on here than Jet2, far worse. It wasn't as bad as pprune would have you believe. It wasn't great and had faults but still, nice people. No matter which, I would never see myself so twisted and angry as to jump on here and call my own colleagues losers for remaining in employment within a company.
We are all just trying to carve out a groove in life, earn and support families and lifestyles that are in the fringe. Jeez. You must have had some bad crap happen to make you so bitter even towards your cohorts. Pick on the the management but don't
on your fellow soldiers.
We are all just trying to carve out a groove in life, earn and support families and lifestyles that are in the fringe. Jeez. You must have had some bad crap happen to make you so bitter even towards your cohorts. Pick on the the management but don't
on your fellow soldiers.
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Sean Dillon. I normally just read in amusment the ongoings on pprune, wondering if its really the same company that I work for that I'm reading about. However your posts show a level of contempt for the company and its staff unusual even for here.
Station Calling did not suggest that we are ALL in this company because we failed to get out, only you. It seems logical that with strength of feeling you clearly have against Jet2 you would have tried to seek employment elsewhere. As it seems all pastures are greener in your eyes, people would be justified in assuming that the pastures turned you down.
As someone happy with my base I can at least sleep easier knowing that I am labelled a local rather than a loser. I'm not quite sure what makes the rest of your colleagues who get the pleasure of your company losers, but I'm obvisouly missing something.
Station Calling did not suggest that we are ALL in this company because we failed to get out, only you. It seems logical that with strength of feeling you clearly have against Jet2 you would have tried to seek employment elsewhere. As it seems all pastures are greener in your eyes, people would be justified in assuming that the pastures turned you down.
As someone happy with my base I can at least sleep easier knowing that I am labelled a local rather than a loser. I'm not quite sure what makes the rest of your colleagues who get the pleasure of your company losers, but I'm obvisouly missing something.
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It's when I read posts from the likes of Sean Dillon and Honiley that I realise the first 'P' in the title of this website does not stand for Professional'. 
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I was there from the Channex days and stayed for over 10 years. I really liked it - up until my last year or two. The training was really good, the rosters, while they weren't 5/4 stable, gave plenty of variety and the pay was great. Ops, rostering and engineering were all fine and even the management were good.
The big change came when they pushed out RB as DFO and replaced him with TWE, the biggest mistake PM ever made IMHO.
Almost overnight the atmosphere changed for the worse. Treatment of staff, particularly pilots, went downhill fast and the race to the bottom started.
Just the fact that a hell of a lot of ex-Jet2 pilots are now to be found in Ryanair tells you all you need to know!
It's a shame, it used to be a great company to work for.
The big change came when they pushed out RB as DFO and replaced him with TWE, the biggest mistake PM ever made IMHO.
Almost overnight the atmosphere changed for the worse. Treatment of staff, particularly pilots, went downhill fast and the race to the bottom started.
Just the fact that a hell of a lot of ex-Jet2 pilots are now to be found in Ryanair tells you all you need to know!
It's a shame, it used to be a great company to work for.
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