Non type rated easyjet recruitment?

[LGET]

Hi Lancelot,
I applied as NTR DEFO, no previous experience on the Bus. My screening was at the end of June

[Lancelot747]

Hey LGET,

Thanks for the info. From what I have heard and read so far, it seems they are filling the Italian bases first, a guy I screened with back in January got called for a December start in Italy, already type-rated tho. I requested UK bases, nothing on my side so far. I'm Airbus rated but not on the 320 anymore so I'd be due for a CCQ first. Looks like it's all about bases and training capacity. Anyone else who screened early this year ? I'd be curious to hear about their situation.

[CEDRICO]

Rules of the pool

Hi everybody,

My question deals with the rules of the Talent Pool.
Does my starting date depend on the bases I chose (eg I ask for an unpopular base to start quickly) or does my starting date only depend on the date I entered the Talent Pool (strictly a seniority list) or both?
Thanks to those who can shed some light on that!

[dirk85]

There are no written rules, but it is believed it mostly depends on which base you have given your preference, and how well you performed in the assessment.

[VJW]

I can’t believe the last sentance. How well you performed at assessment is the difference between passing and not.

I’m waiting for a call for DEC NTR LGW. Everyone who has been offered something so far passed before I did. I’d be amazed, and making a call if it turns out someone who passed after me gets a call before I do. That’s not how holding pools work..

My logic would be this. There is one large hold pool. Inside that it’s divided into 4, Captain rated or not, FO rated or not. You are then picked out in order of date you entered the pool based on their demands for training courses available and where they need to base you. Very simple. Again how well you did at assessment implies the best get picked first and if they’re desperate they’ll offer something to the ones who scraped through. I think they set their own recruitment standards much higher than that.

[dirk85]

I stopped looking for fairness and logic in airline recruitment long time ago.
The base allocation and start dates in easyJet do not seem to follow specific rules.
Or I am not smart enough to understand them, one of the two.

I was very short in the pool, and I was called before people that had been there longer than me, and there have been people joining the pool after me, and being called out before.
People were offered bases that one week before were not available, and when guys asked to swap base with assessment buddies because interested in each other base were said no, with no explanation.

I have some memories about one of the assessors saying that the performance of the applicant had an effect on how quickly one would have been called, but no evidence to support that is actually what happens.

One can only sit, wait and hope to get something vaguely close to his preference.

Do not be afraid to say no if you do not like the base on offer, but keep in mind you can stay in the pool max one year.
I know several guys that refused the first base they offered them and that have been offered months later what they wanted. It almost looked like a poker game to me.

The situation now might be different with all the Monarch and Air Berlin guys obviously.

[Lancelot747]

VJW,

agreed, that would make perfect sense. When was your interview ? Mine was in January, got the bases offers around June and still waiting. They're super friendly on the phone but won't say much regarding an estimated start date.

[VJW]

Nope- just a case of waiting your turn. I passed a few months ago- but I’m a Captain and think we’re not waiting quite as long as FO’s for a call.

Who knows though..

[Fred_fr]

What are the differences between easyjet uk and easyjet switzerland in term of contract and conditions ?

If you apply with one can you submit a new application with the other

Thank you in advance

[dirk85]

You can have only one active application at a time.

What people don't seem to understand is that the contract changes, big time, in money, conditions, roster, part time, pension, in EVERYTHING, from one country to another.
It is like working for different companies.

Just money wise we are talking of THOUSANDS of euros of difference per month from one place to another.

Easyjet Uk is the AOC under which at the moment all the bases out of Switzerland operate. That does not mean that the work contract is the same. Germany, Italy, France, UK, Spain and Portugal have different contract for crews. Even FTL slightly change.

Easy Swiss is the AOC under which all the swiss registered planes based out of Basel and Geneva operate.
Being applicable only to one country there is only one work contract applicable.

[a350pilots]

easySwiss is a different company with different Flight OPS and training management. Same SOPs tough as UK flight OPS is trying to get in slowly streamlined with their operating standards since years. No official base transfer between other countries established, only for FOs via LGW. This is not applicable for CAPTs. easySwiss operated under less restrive FTL many years before UK mainline introduced EASA.

[EcamSurprise]

Keep an eye on the easyJet pages. There will be a large requirement of crews (FO / CP) in Berlin and once they've interviewed the AB guys, recruitment will be opening up for all external applicants apparently.

[flareflyer]

Just checked today
They opened for dec based in berlin but only type rated

[Brix]

By their fruit you will recognize them

Air Berlin pilots were given interviews quickly. In the organization of subsequent simulator slots I could not detect any logical pattern, but in the early stages First Officers only had to complete a personality questionnaire in addition to the above to receive a job offer. I assume the success rate was too high so they changed the rules of the game on-the-fly and introduced some more online tests.

Here's to fair and equal treatment.

[surfinsight]

Hi all,
I'm in the talent pool since august, after interviews in July. I've not been called for any offer yet, but colleagues from the same selection have.
Do you guys know of anyone that has never been called during the allocated 12 months and his application for dismissed ?
If there was no direct entry on any of our 3 selected bases, would they propose an other base before our time runs out ? Merry Christmas to all

[VJW]

Can I presume you’re a FO?

I’ve been in the pool since end of sept for DEC. Two guys on my day got called a month or so before I did having found out they passed two weeks after me. Another guy got called a week before me having passed a month after. I’m not sure of the logic or order, but what I will say is they are always extremely friendly if you call. My advice is call them for an update. I imagine they’re simply processing Captains first at the moment and air Berlin and monarch have slowed things down for us non rated people. Give them a call and tell them about your flexibility around base preferences.

[dirk85]

Training/recruitment are in the middle of the biggest recruitment drive in the history of the company.
They were supposed to recruit about 400 pilots for the year, which was already a record, and now with AB the number went up to 800.

Patience is the key.

[FlyboyUK]

When I joined a few years ago I passed the recruitment process in the August, and apart from being offered a Euro base that I didn’t want, I didn’t get a start date until the following February. Hang on in there as mentioned above the recruitment team are incredibly busy.

[CaptainJim]

Another LCC scam

The coveted type-rating qualification, required by airline pilots to fly specific aircraft, typically incurs fees of up to £30,000 upfront. With a large proportion of applicants to the airline coming from Boeing 737 operators on lower pay, many of the quality candidates can not afford to follow their ambitions to join easyJet.

easyJet now aims to redress the balance. It’s new Type-Rating Sponsorship Scheme (TRSS) is designed to remove this financial barrier to type-rating, opening up non type-rated Captain positions to those for whom they were previously unattainable.

TRSS enables pilots to spread the cost of type-rating funding across 3 years, as it is taken in increments from their net pay. With 0% interest and no upfront costs, it’s not hard to see the appeal.

Is this a joke? Because it made me laugh and made me feel much better about my job even though I’m away for Christmas. Translation we can’t find enough rated Captains so we are going to try our luck with naive FR pilots who are used to being short changed. Offering to take 30k out of your “net” salary and act like they are doing you a favour, even some of the worlds worst airlines give you a 3-5 year bond for the type rating. I thought Ryanair were bad. Don’t forget after 3 years you won’t be 737 rated anymore under EASAs new rules and will have to pay another 30k to go back to your 737 job. Unless you want to spend time and money keeping current every year. I think I’ll get into the TRTO business like Easyjet if experienced pilots are now this stupid. Very insulting!The race to the bottom continues

https://careers.easyjet.com/reclaimi...o-type-rating/

[VJW]

As a FR captain shortly to be joining Easy via this method, I can confirm that even with this amount coming out of my net salary, the pay at Easy is so significantly better than FR - I’ll be getting paid at least what I make at FR while these repayments are being made. My TOTAL pay at FR (prior to these naff short term pay increases) is about £10k gross a year less than EasyJet’s BASIC salary...

Additionally, I’ve been in the BA holdpool for over a year. Firstly they won’t call me any time soon, and even if they did the will only pay me if I’m lucky £70k total for the first year. Around £50k less than EasyJet will pay me in the first year - a company who has actually called me from the holdpool. Does it matter to me if EasyJet take £7k/year net from me for 3 years? BA would give me a ‘free type rating’ with a total of £150k less earnings in those three years.

Captain Jim needs to crunch some numbers a bit more I think before he calls any FR Captains naive for going to EasyJet.

Suggesting even remotely that FR is better than Easy has me thinking you need to lay off the mulled wine.