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Old 7th Feb 2019, 10:24
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For those that have asked the chances of going straight to MAN are slim to zero. Everybody joins at LHR and on day one you put your name on the waiting list. The base is full of F/O’s so dead mans shoes. With the 330 operation scaled back from MAN for the winter, most crews are back at LHR but most will get back for the summer.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 10:28
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And PS part time is not being discontinued. However with the entry of the 350 this year there is a requirement that to go on it early you need to be full time for a year, and then limited to 85% thereafter to fly both the 330/350.

Naturally there are many on 75% who have politely declined to go to the new shiny jet !
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 11:52
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Originally Posted by 4engines4longhaul View Post
For those that have asked the chances of going straight to MAN are slim to zero. Everybody joins at LHR and on day one you put your name on the waiting list. The base is full of F/Oís so dead mans shoes. With the 330 operation scaled back from MAN for the winter, most crews are back at LHR but most will get back for the summer.
Thanks for the info. I was under the impression MAN became a permanent year-round base last year, is that not the case?
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Old 8th Feb 2019, 07:34
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post
He's been told that Part Time is being discontinued so doesn't matter where you are on the list!.
He might want to check that....
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 11:22
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Out of interest is the aim to still retire all of Virgins 747 fleet by the end of this year?
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Old 10th Feb 2019, 12:33
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Think 2 years-ish and no more (or very little) recruitment onto it. All Boeing recruits apparently going 787
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 12:28
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Any Yes/No yet?
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 09:10
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Originally Posted by MikeAlpha320 View Post
Any Yes/No yet?
Nothing yet . . .
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 02:17
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Nothing yet...
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Old 1st Mar 2019, 17:47
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Are they still recruiting?
Nothing on their Website now..
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 08:13
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I know 3 guys that have had PFOs. All very experienced airbus guys so not sure what theyíre after.
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 08:57
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A possible purchase of Thomas cooks long haul !
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 18:19
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How viable is it to commute to LHR/LGW as flight deck given you won't be in every day? From a logistics/time and health point of view? Does anyone commute down up north for the trip and then go home after or is the thought horrifying after the long sector back from LH destination xyz?
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 18:35
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Originally Posted by Daily Dalaman Dave View Post
I know 3 guys that have had PFOs. All very experienced airbus guys so not sure what theyíre after.

An internal sponsor is key from what I hear.
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Old 17th Jun 2019, 21:42
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Originally Posted by tech log View Post
How viable is it to commute to LHR/LGW as flight deck given you won't be in every day? From a logistics/time and health point of view? Does anyone commute down up north for the trip and then go home after or is the thought horrifying after the long sector back from LH destination xyz?
Its certainly commutable, train, drive or fly. For early starts best to book a night at a hotel before. Landing day normally back up north on a train and home by 1ish typically. Not ideal but not having to move the family outweighs the hassle. Depends on how the month looks 4 trips fine, 5/6 difficult.
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Old 18th Jun 2019, 10:23
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Question for anyone flying long haul: compared to short haul (with 2 sectors per day and the average sector being. about 2hrs), does it not get incredibly boring spending the majority of your career in the cruise? What do you do for all that time? Or does the fact you do it only a couple of times per week rather than 5 days in a row make it more enjoyable?
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Old 18th Jun 2019, 14:00
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg View Post
Question for anyone flying long haul: compared to short haul (with 2 sectors per day and the average sector being. about 2hrs), does it not get incredibly boring spending the majority of your career in the cruise? What do you do for all that time? Or does the fact you do it only a couple of times per week rather than 5 days in a row make it more enjoyable?
itís a lifestyle job. Itís about the life down route. If you are someone who will be an Olympic torch down route (never goes out) locking yourself in the room and not socialising, it would be miserable.

Plenty to do in the cruise. You are travelling much longer distances with remote alternates, so keeping on top of where is suitable, ETPs and how you would fly the approach in the conditions does take some time. You will be flying a lot of older people to cruises (not a stereotype, itís a fact) who can get very ill very quickly. You also get rest periods to chill away from the flight deck or sleep. Or just watch the IFE. Most of my time in the seat is spent chewing the fat with the bloke in the other seat, getting down route tips or seeing where to invest the pension fund, thinking what will catch me out on the approach at the far end, where I want to hold, how much fuel Iím willing to hold down to, diversion routing, mentally rehearsing go-around. There is plenty to do, if you arenít gashing it.

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Old 18th Jun 2019, 18:40
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Depends which airline as to ď life down route ď. There are plenty that arenít party central like virgin. Personally I donít do longhaul for the life downroute, that would be a bit sad as 90% of people are colleagues not friends ( found that out the hard way ) but increasing my lifestyle at home.
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Old 18th Jun 2019, 19:14
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My long haul lifestyle at home is 100 times better than it ever was on short haul. Very little disruption, Iím home more than Iím away. Granted Iím away more nights but Iíve never crawled in to bed at 3am (at least not because of work) and generally itís my kids that wake me up, not my alarm. The lifestyle is better for me (it really is a very personal thing).

Yes i I do miss out on some plays/ceremonies/swimming lessons/life events. But Iíd have done that on shorthaul. Iím the only dad consistently at the school gates and get to enjoy life off the aircraft more than I ever did when I was at short haul.

But i also came to the realisation when when I switched from short to long that this is just a job. No more no less. It lets me live my life for me and my family in this industry I. The way I want. And I canít remember the last time I had a CTOT.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 00:54
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg View Post
Question for anyone flying long haul: compared to short haul (with 2 sectors per day and the average sector being. about 2hrs), does it not get incredibly boring spending the majority of your career in the cruise? What do you do for all that time? Or does the fact you do it only a couple of times per week rather than 5 days in a row make it more enjoyable?
Believe it or not, I used to find 2 hour sectors just about bearable, and 4 hour sectors horrendously boring, going through 3 or 4 different newspapers. However, on 10+ hours sector I feel like I don't even have time to pick up the paper. Maybe it has something to do with fact I come into work less. A bit of time in the bunk helps. But as mentioned above, when you fly over remote places you have to be a little bit more on top of weather/notams/suitable airfields/terrain, unlike short haul around the states/Europe where you have plenty of choices of straight forward airports with predictable weather. There's just a little bit more to think about.

Long haul is a completely different job to short haul. And in my opinion, a much better job. Not all trips are sociable, so make sure you enjoy your own company.
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