Virgin recruiting soon...
Joined: Nov 2006
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From: London
Yep, salaries in China are going through the roof, but one has to ask the question why that is ?
You are quite right “The Crew” when you quote net UK salary but that is not Virgin’s fault that we are so heavily taxed, and one has to put the package into context. Does a China contract provide for any pension/LOL/Healthcare/Death in Service/PHI etc ? I might be wrong but I understand you have to self fund this.
At the top of the Virgin tree a year 14 Captain and TRE is on about £185000. The company put 15% of this towards a pension which is £27000 a year. I would hazard a guess that to self fund the other benefits would be in the region of another £10000 a year which is about £225000 a year which is £18000 a month approx.
Just because the F/O pay scales go up to year 16 does not mean anyone will reach that. Commands have never been more than 13 years and now trickling towards the year 9 mark and will be at about year 8 very soon I reckon. The retirement bulge is already starting and company figures have to naturally be based on everyone leaving at 65, wheras most will leave before that.
Is it all a bed of roses here ? No, it is not, but what we have we will fight to maintain, including the golden egg of 750 hours.
£19000 a month to work in China ? Personally I would want a lot more than that. In fact I would not work there for all the tea in China
You are quite right “The Crew” when you quote net UK salary but that is not Virgin’s fault that we are so heavily taxed, and one has to put the package into context. Does a China contract provide for any pension/LOL/Healthcare/Death in Service/PHI etc ? I might be wrong but I understand you have to self fund this.
At the top of the Virgin tree a year 14 Captain and TRE is on about £185000. The company put 15% of this towards a pension which is £27000 a year. I would hazard a guess that to self fund the other benefits would be in the region of another £10000 a year which is about £225000 a year which is £18000 a month approx.
Just because the F/O pay scales go up to year 16 does not mean anyone will reach that. Commands have never been more than 13 years and now trickling towards the year 9 mark and will be at about year 8 very soon I reckon. The retirement bulge is already starting and company figures have to naturally be based on everyone leaving at 65, wheras most will leave before that.
Is it all a bed of roses here ? No, it is not, but what we have we will fight to maintain, including the golden egg of 750 hours.
£19000 a month to work in China ? Personally I would want a lot more than that. In fact I would not work there for all the tea in China
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: UK
Nothing here,
I believe the person who sends out the emails is now on leave for a couple if weeks as of yesterday so I'm not expecting to hear anything until at least mid next month.
happy to be corrected though!
I believe the person who sends out the emails is now on leave for a couple if weeks as of yesterday so I'm not expecting to hear anything until at least mid next month.
happy to be corrected though!
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 16
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From: Europe
Yep, salaries in China are going through the roof, but one has to ask the question why that is ?
You are quite right “The Crew” when you quote net UK salary but that is not Virgin’s fault that we are so heavily taxed, and one has to put the package into context. Does a China contract provide for any pension/LOL/Healthcare/Death in Service/PHI etc ? I might be wrong but I understand you have to self fund this.
At the top of the Virgin tree a year 14 Captain and TRE is on about £185000. The company put 15% of this towards a pension which is £27000 a year. I would hazard a guess that to self fund the other benefits would be in the region of another £10000 a year which is about £225000 a year which is £18000 a month approx.
Just because the F/O pay scales go up to year 16 does not mean anyone will reach that. Commands have never been more than 13 years and now trickling towards the year 9 mark and will be at about year 8 very soon I reckon. The retirement bulge is already starting and company figures have to naturally be based on everyone leaving at 65, wheras most will leave before that.
Is it all a bed of roses here ? No, it is not, but what we have we will fight to maintain, including the golden egg of 750 hours.
£19000 a month to work in China ? Personally I would want a lot more than that. In fact I would not work there for all the tea in China
You are quite right “The Crew” when you quote net UK salary but that is not Virgin’s fault that we are so heavily taxed, and one has to put the package into context. Does a China contract provide for any pension/LOL/Healthcare/Death in Service/PHI etc ? I might be wrong but I understand you have to self fund this.
At the top of the Virgin tree a year 14 Captain and TRE is on about £185000. The company put 15% of this towards a pension which is £27000 a year. I would hazard a guess that to self fund the other benefits would be in the region of another £10000 a year which is about £225000 a year which is £18000 a month approx.
Just because the F/O pay scales go up to year 16 does not mean anyone will reach that. Commands have never been more than 13 years and now trickling towards the year 9 mark and will be at about year 8 very soon I reckon. The retirement bulge is already starting and company figures have to naturally be based on everyone leaving at 65, wheras most will leave before that.
Is it all a bed of roses here ? No, it is not, but what we have we will fight to maintain, including the golden egg of 750 hours.
£19000 a month to work in China ? Personally I would want a lot more than that. In fact I would not work there for all the tea in China
Yes. Great package. Bloomin marvellous. But is it sustainable for an airline that makes absolutely no money?
VA only exist for political reasons. No way Delta will continue to feeding the dead donkey unless it suits and that could change as quick as the wind.
Joined: Jun 2015
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From: High n Blighty
I just ran a reverse tax calculation . To take home £19000 / month , in the UK you would have to earn £410,000 per year. No commercial pilot in a brit airline earns this amount . Managers... yea you bet .
The point is a junior captain from easyjet , with 500 hours and around 7 years from their ab
initio training can relocate to Beijing & be taking home £ 19000 per month. Yes you live in china but wow , after 5 yrs come back and join Virgin. The money won’t have changed one bit !
The point is a junior captain from easyjet , with 500 hours and around 7 years from their ab
initio training can relocate to Beijing & be taking home £ 19000 per month. Yes you live in china but wow , after 5 yrs come back and join Virgin. The money won’t have changed one bit !
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Germany
All the money in the world won't cover up being fined for missing block time, unstable approaches and being spat at by a chain smoking Chinese captain I suspect... Plus all that time away from family
I have a name for someone who takes money for doing something they really don't want to do. Life is too short.
I have a name for someone who takes money for doing something they really don't want to do. Life is too short.
Joined: Sep 2010
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From: Holland
So after 2-3 months since applying, I am thinking it’s unlikely we’ll be invited to interview, maybe keeping us on file as a backup? But could be wrong.
Joined: Sep 2018
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From: London
havent heard any truth regarding the matter , one of the great things I have noticed over my very short time of being here is how relaxed the operation is . It’s probably got to do with the experience, as most guys that join have had a couple of years under the belt . So when a skipper sees a 2 stripper they don’t have to panic
Joined: Apr 1999
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The Crew
Sorry but that’s totally incorrect. You haven’t understood the BA way. A PP16 co-pilot becomes a PP16 Capt on promotion. The lower reaches of the Capt pay scale contain almost no members.
So after 16 years you get a command and hey ho another 600/month. Just Saying !
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