Do BA pilots really deserve our support re Openskys?
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Aaah the 'bullying' accusation. Don't like what they have to say, must be bullying then! If your arguments are so weak that any counter argument is considered bullying then perhaps you shouldn't be allowed on the internet unsupervised. Maybe some of my 'victims' can sue Danny for emotional trauma!
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You really are a tit mate.
"ba has no future" - amazing for a company with a £7billion turnover.
"it's planes are poor" - Ok the small number of 757's left and old A320s' are a bit shabby but the 60 odd almost new Airbii and 45 or so 777s'? Have you actually been on a BA plane lately?
I hardly ever come on here anymore now as the amount of ****e written is getting beyond a joke. Also every thread; in time seems to degenerate into bashing either BA or Ryanair.
You really are a tit mate.
"ba has no future" - amazing for a company with a £7billion turnover.
"it's planes are poor" - Ok the small number of 757's left and old A320s' are a bit shabby but the 60 odd almost new Airbii and 45 or so 777s'? Have you actually been on a BA plane lately?
I hardly ever come on here anymore now as the amount of ****e written is getting beyond a joke. Also every thread; in time seems to degenerate into bashing either BA or Ryanair.
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Well, after BAConnect, oops, BACitflyer Express, oops, BACitiExpress, oops, CityflyerExpress Ltd....are quietly absorbed into mainline in 18 months(ish) time, still on their sh1te Ts and Cs, you will then inevitably see the spread of those Ts and Cs to the the Gatwick base, and also to the London City base.
Meanwhile, OS will have formed, and will be taking business more profitably away from selected mainline routes. This will be a trend which will increase over the next few years.
Inevitably my dear playground bully, the times they are indeed a changin', they've crept up on you and you didn't notice until it was too late. Oh, I'm sure the compromise will be dressed up as a BALPA win, but let's face it - you've had erosion of those Ts and Cs in real terms for quite a while now, and with the cost of oil and inflation generally, not to mention the LIBOR effect being passed on to industry borrowings and leverage - (a particular problem for BA) - the good times are well and truly over.
But I don't hold grudges, you - (or Hand Solo) - can be my co-pilot (PNF) any time!
If you're grown up enough to fly long haul, we could even be a heavy crew - I'll get the first round just to show there's no hard feelings!
And no, I'm not proud to worker harder than you for less than you, but I need the job, my family need the income, and if it means taking your job - I suppose you'll find yourself in an inevitably shrinking quad (playground to you old lad).
Do I care? Is the Pope a Protestant?
Meanwhile, OS will have formed, and will be taking business more profitably away from selected mainline routes. This will be a trend which will increase over the next few years.
Inevitably my dear playground bully, the times they are indeed a changin', they've crept up on you and you didn't notice until it was too late. Oh, I'm sure the compromise will be dressed up as a BALPA win, but let's face it - you've had erosion of those Ts and Cs in real terms for quite a while now, and with the cost of oil and inflation generally, not to mention the LIBOR effect being passed on to industry borrowings and leverage - (a particular problem for BA) - the good times are well and truly over.
But I don't hold grudges, you - (or Hand Solo) - can be my co-pilot (PNF) any time!
If you're grown up enough to fly long haul, we could even be a heavy crew - I'll get the first round just to show there's no hard feelings!And no, I'm not proud to worker harder than you for less than you, but I need the job, my family need the income, and if it means taking your job - I suppose you'll find yourself in an inevitably shrinking quad (playground to you old lad).
Do I care? Is the Pope a Protestant?
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And no, I'm not proud to worker harder than you for less than you, but I need the job, my family need the income, and if it means taking your job - I suppose you'll find yourself in an inevitably shrinking quad (playground to you old lad).
oh my god, another brilliant quote from an industry bottom feeder. You guys are incredible. just to get facts straight its working harder for peanuts.
anybody who wants to do back to back jfk's 3 times a month must be pathetically desperate to do long haul. they are either such a poor standard of pilot that they are unable to get a job flying long haul with any other operator or one whose present long haul experience is on MS FS2000. last time i checked they where planning to do all there trips 2 man, not sure that stealin mitt planning any heavy crews (maybe it's new banter that you don't get).
Whats worse is that you insinuate that this will be a pay rise for you! how desperate must you be? just how poor a candidate for a decent job must you be? I can only guess that anybody wanting a job for OS has bombed out everywhere else!
fox 3 kill the fwit in the rj!
And no, I'm not proud to worker harder than you for less than you, but I need the job, my family need the income, and if it means taking your job - I suppose you'll find yourself in an inevitably shrinking quad (playground to you old lad).
But I don't hold grudges, you - (or Hand Solo) - can be my co-pilot (PNF) any time! If you're grown up enough to fly long haul, we could even be a heavy crew - I'll get the first round just to show there's no hard feelings!
If you're grown up enough to fly long haul, we could even be a heavy crew - I'll get the first round just to show there's no hard feelings!
anybody who wants to do back to back jfk's 3 times a month must be pathetically desperate to do long haul. they are either such a poor standard of pilot that they are unable to get a job flying long haul with any other operator or one whose present long haul experience is on MS FS2000. last time i checked they where planning to do all there trips 2 man, not sure that stealin mitt planning any heavy crews (maybe it's new banter that you don't get).
Whats worse is that you insinuate that this will be a pay rise for you! how desperate must you be? just how poor a candidate for a decent job must you be? I can only guess that anybody wanting a job for OS has bombed out everywhere else!
fox 3 kill the fwit in the rj!
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Don't worry the heavy heavy.
This is a guy that hasnt got anything relevant to say looking at his previous posts.
Just opinionated and not open to arguments.
It's a shame that this is what we are up against.
So in the meantime I let the foresight of the 'new' BACC do the talking.
This is a guy that hasnt got anything relevant to say looking at his previous posts.
Just opinionated and not open to arguments.
It's a shame that this is what we are up against.
So in the meantime I let the foresight of the 'new' BACC do the talking.
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Well, after BAConnect, oops, BACitflyer Express, oops, BACitiExpress, oops, CityflyerExpress Ltd....are quietly absorbed into mainline in 18 months(ish) time, still on their sh1te Ts and Cs, you will then inevitably see the spread of those Ts and Cs to the the Gatwick base, and also to the London City base.
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Are OS due to commence service soon? What will happen to the pilots already flying for them? If Balpa gets its way will they be integrated into the master seniority list or tagged on the bottom? Interesting for some of the BA retired pilots who have joined OS, one minute they are top of the list then they are bottom!!
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From your choice of callsign old lad; youd only ever have called RABBIT RABBIT when you heard mine own.
Oh and Handyboy -
Pity you didnt do the same with the much smaller BACX......but of course you didnt need to, did you....
Oh and Handyboy -
Yeah, just like they did when (the much larger) Cityflyer Express was merged into EOG. Clearly a man who doesn't concern himself with the lessons of history.
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If Balpa gets its way will they be integrated into the master seniority list or tagged on the bottom?
OS pilots were recruited to 'different' criteria to mainline (according to BA) BA may choose not to retain them at all, in preference to granting them access to mainline fleets.
Absolutely nothing is certain!
However, they will all have realised the uncertain position they put themselves in when they chose to defy the IFALPA recruitment ban. With such a tiny number of individuals affected, and all with less than 2 years in the company, I am unsure as to what protection from redundancy they could expect?
BA, under WW is now more 'slash and burn' than 'caring employer'!
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Hear hear - can you see the headlines - BA makes pilots redundant, BA breaks employment rules, BA breaks contracts, BA breaks European law, BA appear in the European court of Human Rights, more Sunday Broadsheet front pages......it's enough to make you realise that BALPA would be on their case, wouldn't that make for an interesting thread on here!
Obviously Hand Solo would support ANY vocal pilot group trying to protect their jobs!
Yup, I think our careers with OS are safe.
Obviously Hand Solo would support ANY vocal pilot group trying to protect their jobs!
Yup, I think our careers with OS are safe.
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Well a lot of you guys will get what you wanted, a back door into BA.
Expect a very quiet time down route as you'll struggle to find a skipper that will join you in the bar. As for cabin crew....well it's BA crew after all..
Expect a very quiet time down route as you'll struggle to find a skipper that will join you in the bar. As for cabin crew....well it's BA crew after all..
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Welcome back PontiousPilot/ROTPS. I think you may have slightly misjudged BA management if you think they give a jot about bad headlines. BA could of course tag you all on to the bottom of the mainline seniority list, just like they did with Cityflyer. Of course if you then fail to make the grade within mainline they won't hesitate to chop you, just like they did with some Cityflyer pilots. That'll give some people something to think about if they've repeatedly failed to make the grade in mainline.