Revised Pay Offer to easyJet Pilots - April 2006
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Revised Pay Offer to easyJet Pilots - April 2006
A new pay offer has been received for easyJet pilots which is basically a return to the 'old scheme' prior to the last pay offer. The headline of the deal on offer is a 10% overall increase over 2 years as follows:
Basic pay increased by 4% backdated to 1 Oct 2005.
Pension effectively increased by 2% to 9% backdated to 1 Oct 2005 (or you can take it in your pay instead).
Further basic pay increase of 4% from 1 Oct 2006.
Sector Pay increased by 6% now (backdated to last Oct & a further 4% in Oct 2006).
Re-introduction of 5% gross loyalty bonuses for FOs after 3 years' service.
FOs on frozen ATPL able to get LPC early to enable pay rise through promotion to SFO.
As far as I know, this is the best pay deal offered to any UK airline this year I and will be voting Yes - over to everyone else!
Edited to add in the sector pay and to correct percentage!
Basic pay increased by 4% backdated to 1 Oct 2005.
Pension effectively increased by 2% to 9% backdated to 1 Oct 2005 (or you can take it in your pay instead).
Further basic pay increase of 4% from 1 Oct 2006.
Sector Pay increased by 6% now (backdated to last Oct & a further 4% in Oct 2006).
Re-introduction of 5% gross loyalty bonuses for FOs after 3 years' service.
FOs on frozen ATPL able to get LPC early to enable pay rise through promotion to SFO.
As far as I know, this is the best pay deal offered to any UK airline this year I and will be voting Yes - over to everyone else!
Edited to add in the sector pay and to correct percentage!
Last edited by Norman Stanley Fletcher; 21st Apr 2006 at 23:11.
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Maybe if it were January. The company has successfuly delayed things till almost May, so I think most people will take it. All in all it's a fair enough offer to satisfy MOST existing pilots, but it wont be enough to stop people leaving or to attract the type-rated pilots we so desperatly need.
Maybe if it were January. The company has successfuly delayed things till almost May, so I think most people will take it. All in all it's a fair enough offer to satisfy MOST existing pilots, but it wont be enough to stop people leaving or to attract the type-rated pilots we so desperatly need.
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Not so sure. Was chatting to a pilot mate in GB airways who said he was looking at coming to easyJet if the deal was 10% over 2 years and an agreement was reached on rostering.
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I have done a bit of a straw poll in the LGW crewroom today and spoken to people with a wide range of opinions. Everyone I spoke to said they would vote 'Yes'. It seems to me that this is going to go through with quite a substantial majority. Informed rumour has it that easyJet now has just under 80% BALPA membership (I cannot verify that but I have every reason to believe it is true). The results are there for all to see - having started with BALPA membership less than 50% and a derisory offer of a pay freeze for our European bases and a pay rise less than inflation for the UK bases, we have just had a 10% offer over 2 years.
For those of you interested in facts and figures, my spreadsheet calculations tell me that a captain after 2 years service and therefore in receipt of the 5% 'loyalty bonus', flying 500 sectors per year, will by October be earning £92,900 gross per annum. (That figure is calculated by grossing up all sector pay and assumes 12 ASBYs per year.) It is not as good as Virgin or BA but it is still a pretty reasonable deal. When compared to Ryanair for example who have no pension or anything else for that matter, I think we are now better paid than they are.
There is no doubt in my mind that this pay deal will be voted through. Our excellent CC are now in a big battle over the far more pressing issues universally described as 'lifestyle' within the company. Issues up for grabs include 5/2-5/4 rostering, base transfer policy, TRSS, Direct Entry Commands, European base pay scales, seniority lists and so forth. No one is under any illusion how difficult these negotiations may prove to be, but we should nonetheless be quietly pleased at the small but steady progress we are seeing in turning this airline into a 'great place to work'. As a late arrival into the ranks of BALPA, I for one am extremely grateful for the hard work and dedication of our CC throughout the stressful negotiations of the last few months.
For those of you interested in facts and figures, my spreadsheet calculations tell me that a captain after 2 years service and therefore in receipt of the 5% 'loyalty bonus', flying 500 sectors per year, will by October be earning £92,900 gross per annum. (That figure is calculated by grossing up all sector pay and assumes 12 ASBYs per year.) It is not as good as Virgin or BA but it is still a pretty reasonable deal. When compared to Ryanair for example who have no pension or anything else for that matter, I think we are now better paid than they are.
There is no doubt in my mind that this pay deal will be voted through. Our excellent CC are now in a big battle over the far more pressing issues universally described as 'lifestyle' within the company. Issues up for grabs include 5/2-5/4 rostering, base transfer policy, TRSS, Direct Entry Commands, European base pay scales, seniority lists and so forth. No one is under any illusion how difficult these negotiations may prove to be, but we should nonetheless be quietly pleased at the small but steady progress we are seeing in turning this airline into a 'great place to work'. As a late arrival into the ranks of BALPA, I for one am extremely grateful for the hard work and dedication of our CC throughout the stressful negotiations of the last few months.
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Great to hear about the improved pay deal. Let's just hope the rostering gets figured out. I still thank that is a major impediment to bringing on new pilots that Easy will need for growth. If they can show improvement on that end Easy will surely benefit from lower pilot attrition and better pilots hired.
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Only thing that is not correct from the above is that the sector pay increase is 6% now and 4% in October, which is the same increases on basic, all be it with a little bit of smoke and mirrors on this year ie 4% on salary and 2% on pension, it should be noted that this 2% is the individuals pension contribution and NOT the companies, and Pilots can choose wether to have this 2% in their pocket or in their pension, either way its 6% on salary this year.
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Full marks to our BALPA cc. Sadly this has shown us the only way to deal with easyJet is unity.
We are still along way off being paid what we deserve (10% or more on pensions) etc. But this is a good start.
Now for the 4 on 4 off fight.......
We are still along way off being paid what we deserve (10% or more on pensions) etc. But this is a good start.
Now for the 4 on 4 off fight.......
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Well, the rumours were true then. For me personally this is a fair deal. Exactly what I was hoping to see (see one of my previous posts on the NO vote thread). I will be voting yes......as long as they don't make us sign a deal that incorperates rostering into this as well (then I would need to look into it).
Yes vote from me based on the current statements.
I think demanding more than this is being greedy...just a personal opinion.
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Yes vote from me based on the current statements.
I think demanding more than this is being greedy...just a personal opinion.
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The deal is rubbish!
People will vote yes because it is slightly better than the previous one, 10% sounds like a good number, and we are fed up of waiting. But is the deal make easyjet a carreer airline?
The pension issue had not been adressed at all! It was one of the priority, though.
The company is probably putting less money is this deal than on the previous proposal.
If the membership is so high (80% said NSF), we could do much better than that. It is now or never.
People will vote yes because it is slightly better than the previous one, 10% sounds like a good number, and we are fed up of waiting. But is the deal make easyjet a carreer airline?
The pension issue had not been adressed at all! It was one of the priority, though.
The company is probably putting less money is this deal than on the previous proposal.
If the membership is so high (80% said NSF), we could do much better than that. It is now or never.
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Whilst I share your sentiments ACM what would we go to Stage 3 for exactly? The pay 6% (or 4% salary & 2% pension) this year and 4% next year is reasonable. I would like to see at least 5% on pension but is it worth striking for an extra 3%?
Personally I'd rather gain another 2 or 3% on pension in the Oct 07 negotiations.
We have a more immediate battle to win to make this airline sustainable and that is rostering. In survey after survey which BALPA did rostering came out as the number one problem that need addressing so why are we getting all bothered by the pay? It's reasonable, not brilliant, but ok.
A Captain under the new deal earns £91k + which I think is a fantastic salary. You can add 7% onto that for the company's pension contribution.
I fail to see the point of taking the pay talks further when we really have a bigger lifestyle goal ahead of rostering. I'll buy the bbq's for the picket line when it comes around to those negotiations......
Personally I'd rather gain another 2 or 3% on pension in the Oct 07 negotiations.
We have a more immediate battle to win to make this airline sustainable and that is rostering. In survey after survey which BALPA did rostering came out as the number one problem that need addressing so why are we getting all bothered by the pay? It's reasonable, not brilliant, but ok.
A Captain under the new deal earns £91k + which I think is a fantastic salary. You can add 7% onto that for the company's pension contribution.
I fail to see the point of taking the pay talks further when we really have a bigger lifestyle goal ahead of rostering. I'll buy the bbq's for the picket line when it comes around to those negotiations......
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The pension was a priority if I remember correctly. We are not getting anything here. Make the calculation yourself and you'll see how much money every month the company will put on the table: 23 pound/month for a Captain. Everybody was shouting that pension should not be less than 15% and we did'nt manage to get at least 9 or 8% ! (without giving up pay rise or crew food).
10% payrise over 2 years is not that bad, but pension are ridiculously and dangerously low. We're back in the pattern wher the company give something in one hand and take away (nearly) in the other. it's a half bake deal, as usual.
I don't like strike but we should push more when we have the strenght to do so.
I am a proud Balpa member for the last 8 years. I won't be anymore if this deal go through. And I probably go work somewhere else in the red hot pilot market.
We have big mouth and no balls. vote NO.
(again make the calculation carefully: on the previous offer, fo 500 sectors and with the minimum bonus, I would take 510 pound more per year. This new offer is just the same thing in a more simple and attractive package)
10% payrise over 2 years is not that bad, but pension are ridiculously and dangerously low. We're back in the pattern wher the company give something in one hand and take away (nearly) in the other. it's a half bake deal, as usual.
I don't like strike but we should push more when we have the strenght to do so.
I am a proud Balpa member for the last 8 years. I won't be anymore if this deal go through. And I probably go work somewhere else in the red hot pilot market.
We have big mouth and no balls. vote NO.
(again make the calculation carefully: on the previous offer, fo 500 sectors and with the minimum bonus, I would take 510 pound more per year. This new offer is just the same thing in a more simple and attractive package)
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On first viewing of this pay offer I thought it was OK: I can't complain about what I am paid at eJ, and this does a bit to bring back what has been whittled away by inflation over recent years.
But I do wonder why the loyalty pay built into basic (which would have improved the pension and LOL) has been taken off the table. As someone else said, this is now just 0.5 % over on pay and 1% over on pension, on the last offering. Why is this so great? (but it's not bad), have we all just lost interest? Having loyalty pay incorporated in pensions would have taken it off the table where the company has been trying to shoot it at every opportunity.
eJ needs to address pensions for all it's employees, I think that is why they are so reluctant to open this can of worms by moving above the 7% mark.
From my vantage point all I can see is the DEC sitting on the LHS and command courses being cancelled (gossip or true - not sure). eJ are desparately understaffed and this summer is already beyond repair.
What I need from this company is a little mutual respect and transparency in the command process, no DECs, transparent base transfers (or better no transfers at all for new captains) Why should I have to leave my base and uproot my life, for a command, to have my space taken by a DEC.
I appreciate the loyalty bonus is being reinstated for FOs, but what I really need from this company is some loyalty to me.
But I do wonder why the loyalty pay built into basic (which would have improved the pension and LOL) has been taken off the table. As someone else said, this is now just 0.5 % over on pay and 1% over on pension, on the last offering. Why is this so great? (but it's not bad), have we all just lost interest? Having loyalty pay incorporated in pensions would have taken it off the table where the company has been trying to shoot it at every opportunity.
eJ needs to address pensions for all it's employees, I think that is why they are so reluctant to open this can of worms by moving above the 7% mark.
From my vantage point all I can see is the DEC sitting on the LHS and command courses being cancelled (gossip or true - not sure). eJ are desparately understaffed and this summer is already beyond repair.
What I need from this company is a little mutual respect and transparency in the command process, no DECs, transparent base transfers (or better no transfers at all for new captains) Why should I have to leave my base and uproot my life, for a command, to have my space taken by a DEC.
I appreciate the loyalty bonus is being reinstated for FOs, but what I really need from this company is some loyalty to me.
Easyjet offer
I don't have a dog in the hunt so to speak and I really have not followed this that closely but I'll offer something based on what I've seen personally.
If you guys have had a really good improvement in the offer and it seems that this is true due to membership solidarity backing your reps - take the deal. Consolidate your gains and get ready for the next round. If you are in it for the long term, think that way. 2 or 3 contract rounds with real gains each time adds up.
More than one group (see Fedex pilots) has done themselves in by pushing for more and then lossing the support of a portion of the membership. Once that happens the management has you divided and you are in trouble.
Good luck with it.
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If you guys have had a really good improvement in the offer and it seems that this is true due to membership solidarity backing your reps - take the deal. Consolidate your gains and get ready for the next round. If you are in it for the long term, think that way. 2 or 3 contract rounds with real gains each time adds up.
More than one group (see Fedex pilots) has done themselves in by pushing for more and then lossing the support of a portion of the membership. Once that happens the management has you divided and you are in trouble.
Good luck with it.
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Acm, You are right about the pensions...it sucks. BUT, the rest looks all fine to me. The loyalty bonus should be added to basic though, I agree with that.
I have to disagree with your statement about this deal being the same as the previous one. I will gain significantly more than 510 pounds per year on this new deal. Would you care to show us your calculations? Perhaps I've overlooked something on mine. Are you a F/O? TRSS? how many years in company?
I have to disagree with your statement about this deal being the same as the previous one. I will gain significantly more than 510 pounds per year on this new deal. Would you care to show us your calculations? Perhaps I've overlooked something on mine. Are you a F/O? TRSS? how many years in company?