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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 12:32
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Oh well you were offered the olive branch but you didn't see fit to take it.

I do not know what
berooms
are???

If you mean 'bedrooms' I only go into ones that I'm invited into, thank you, I am not a pervert.

Do they teach people in the aviation industry how to spell, punctuate & when to stop & start sentences? From reading these pages you'd wonder sometimes.

I have a life thank you! I'm going on a full months holiday abroad soon so while you lot are working behind your counters I'll be off enjoying myself. My boss is bringing me out to dinner at an expensive restaurant on Thursday evening and paying for me to enjoy any social club of my desire. I also got a wage hike the other day without having to resort to unions (what union) or threats of striking & inconveniencing the customers with my absense or all my tales of woe & mistreatment which I fully recognise aren't their problems or concern. My only function is to service their needs & leave them happy, satisfied & secure in the knowledge they've received a good service & will come back again for repeat business & spread good word of mouth.

Somehow I think you lot chose the wrong industry to work in, maybe you should all go back to college to learn how to upgrade your skills, spell & even better, some manners. By your behaviour on these pages you're not doing the aviation industry or your airline any favours with your attitude.

P.S. I do not expect you to care about
a poxy bottle of wine
but I do expect you to believe that thieving is wrong especially from the people who pay your wages.

See you on one of your planes sometime & don't forget to crack open the bottle of wine.
 
Old 22nd Aug 2004, 13:31
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FTA said:
Do they teach people in the aviation industry how to spell, punctuate & when to stop & start sentences? From reading these pages you'd wonder sometimes.
And then He said:
I have a life thank you!
So, let's see, did he meant that he had a life thanks to us? If so, he should have written "I have a life thanks to you."

Or did he meant that he just had a life ? This time he should have written "I have a life, thank you." (with a comma)

So, FTA, I guess in your business, they don't teach how to write, either.

And then he went:

My boss is bringing me out to dinner at an expensive restaurant on Thursday evening and paying for me to enjoy any social club of my desire.
Sexual aressement?

And finally some light came:
My only function is to service their needs & leave them happy, satisfied & secure in the knowledge they've received a good service & will come back again for repeat business & spread good word of mouth.
Your business is night entertainment, isn't it?

and last but not least:
See you on one of your planes sometime & don't forget to crack open the bottle of wine.
It isn't planes, but airplanes... Go check your dicionary...
Oh I would love to crack that bottle of wine...in your head!
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 13:39
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Imagine somebody managing to get something illicit onto an aeroplane - or even something above their duty free allowance. But they know that they are likely to be checked as they get out of the aircraft, so they leave it on board - and then get through whatever security checks there may be - and then talk to customer services, and say they have left something important on the aircraft - could the staff retrieve it, please? Being customer friendly, they do. What happens next?

Fester, I'm not saying this was you - I'm just flagging up one of the issues of the company bringing stuff down from the aircraft to customers who may have forgotten them. I work for an airline, and I have left things on board aircraft that nobody could possibly want, as well as things that they might - a book on theology; a MagLite torch; various pens; sunglasses. They haven't come back - even though I have been able to track down the aircraft, the next crew etc etc. They just disappear. It may come as a surprise to you, but people are sinful, selfish and careless. If you are going to avoid people like this, I'm surprised you aren't a hermit in a cave by now.
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 15:41
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Fester,


Firstly, "a full months holiday" should read "a full month's holiday".

Secondly, I presume that by "absense" you actually meant "absence".

Sorry, what was that point you were making about punctuation and spelling?


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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 16:51
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Krueger,

Your spelling needs urgent attention too.

So, let's see, did he meant that he had a life thanks to us? If so, he should have written "I have a life thanks to you."
Should say: did he mean!

Or did he meant that he just had a life ? This time he should have written "I have a life, thank you." (with a comma)
Should say: did he mean!

Sexual aressement?
Should say: harassment????

It isn't planes, but airplanes... Go check your dicionary
Should say: dictionary.

Oh I would love to crack that bottle of wine...in your head
Should say: ON your head.
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 17:04
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Fester may have left us (hope springs eternal, etc.). However it is evident that the consequences of his visit will last for some time.

I've - oops, sorry - I have checked my spelling and grammer multitudinous times and I hope I ain't made no error in the two sentances above.

BTW, were we talking about a strike here at one stage?
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 17:14
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GGV

This spelling forum is probably boring the pants off everybody,but I can't believe what you just posted!

You spelled multitudinous perfectly,but stumble on grammAr? And then sentEnces?

Come on,this is a wind-up isn't it?
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 17:35
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Read the rest of his posts from his profile and you will get a better measure of the guy (?) - if you are that interested.

By his inconsequential blather he certainly managed to change the content of what is an important thread - especially for those pilots in bmi.

Anne
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 18:34
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Oshkosh George

Yes, t'was a wind-up.

Also an attempt to point out that the disgression into spelling was occasioned by the arrival of an evident outsider. This outsider seems to be one of number of contributors to various threads - all of whom appear when any talk of defending pilots' interests, strikes, etc. are discussed. (He also played a similar role in other threads).

As my final sentence makes clear, I hope, it was also an effort to get us back to the challenge facing BMI pilots.
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Well,anybody have the latest? Any more talks planned? Is the next pay offer coming from SRB? Or will he be recruiting them one by one?
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Old 22nd Aug 2004, 22:59
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Thank you Stelios,

From now on, you are nominated the official spell checker.
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Old 23rd Aug 2004, 00:06
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Ladies and gentlemen,

If we could move on from the Spelling/FTA topic, I believe the union is in meetings with management this week and we should know the results in a few days. No doubt there will be threats of redundancies, demotions and general ruination and perhaps lots of “jam tomorrow”,

It is just a tragedy that we have had to come this far just to get management to talk and as AR is currently on holiday it will be interesting to see what happens.

MR
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Old 23rd Aug 2004, 06:32
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If the replies herein demonstrate the level of intelligence, articulation and, above all, ability to focus upon a given issue, then the bmi Management have nothing to fear from their pilot workforce.

I do, however, find myself worrying as to the safety of flying with such a pilot workforce. Are'nt there minimum standards of education, common sense and IQ for pilots?


As to the management being inept, as someone put it, if ineptitude enables one to walk away with huge wads of cash, the I'd call it "successful management by objectives".


Based upon this thread, it seems to me that you lot, especially with BALPA on a chain around your ankle(s), don't stand a chance.


Standing by for spelling corrections and childish retorts.
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Old 23rd Aug 2004, 07:56
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Please, please, please , nobody respond to these sort of posts in this thread. I personally am very interested in the original topic and was looking forward to reading an entire page of new replies since my last view.

Unfortunately they have told me nothing about the possible bmi strike!

Can we leave the catcalling and pettyness for jetblast please?

I realise I have just added to the 'useless' replies but can we just get on with the discussion
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Old 23rd Aug 2004, 07:56
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Where do these people come from?

Here we go again. Another provocation and encouragement to divert from the subject. Lots of things for the unwary to respond to - including an attack on pilots and BALPA as well as an intentional (?) lack of logic. Tempting ....

If the replies herein demonstrate … [an] ability to focus upon a given issue, then the bmi Management have nothing to fear from their pilot workforce.
Could everyone not accept the challenge and agree to ignore all such posts and stick to the subject?
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Old 23rd Aug 2004, 22:46
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Val d'Isere?

Again - read his / her (Heaven forbid!) previous posts by clicking on 'Profile' and you will see that when he strays out of the Agony Aunt forum he quickly gets put back in his box!

Let's stick to the thread - it affects me!

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Old 24th Aug 2004, 07:20
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Something came my way in the car park the other evening but first:-

FESTER. When I read the number and volume of posts you put into this forum and thread I think. “Time to spare.” When I read the content of your post about how good your job is and how good your employer is to you regarding holiday and membership of a country club I think “Person in dreamland.”
My suspicion is that you are a single unemployed male who gets off on trying to wind people up. You are certainly single and no doubt very dull as you have too much time to contribute such rubbish.
Please leave this forum for the use of we Professional Pilots et al and go back and play at the kindergarten! It’s about your level! We don’t care about your bottle of cheap Spanish vinegar.

Now, I was wondering around the staff car park the other day trying to remember where I’d abandoned my car 13 hrs ago and got talking to a fellow employee. That’s all I’ll say. It seems that the company is doing so bad that it can only afford to buy AR’s wife a £35K Volvo. Funny I didn’t know that non employees also got company cars? Those members of the company’s management team on grade M4 and above got a 10% bonus and were told to keep quiet about it. 10% of what I couldn’t find out. What have we been offered over the last 2 years? Oh yes. A 4.5% pay cut.
I thought that the company was doing really bad? Silly me! Of course it is. It’s the British way isn’t it?... Rewarding FAILURE.
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Old 24th Aug 2004, 10:07
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High bmi!

It's always been like this.

I can remember when Slippery Bill had a brand new car , having just laid off a load of pilots on the minimum redundancy payments allowed by law.

Funny thing was he had it nicked not long long after.

Getting back to the thread it has been an open secret that managers have consistently been paid bonuses as far down as grade IL is on. It's a little exclusive club.

You guys deserve a decent pay rise. For goodness sake you've earned it.

Go for it!
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Old 24th Aug 2004, 13:26
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Those members of the company’s management team on grade M4 and above got a 10% bonus and were told to keep quiet about it.
Can we assume in that case that one of them didn't do as told. Would love to get proof of that one, dynamite if true.
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There was a 'confidential' memo to senior management about a year ago, offering a bonus if they met their 'performance targets'.

It was either 5% or 10% of their salary, depending on which salary grade they were on. The bonuses were to be awarded in April of this year, along with any pay-rise.
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