Vietnam Airlines (info please)
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It all depends on your status. Are you single, married, kids, etc... Maybe if you’re a bit more specific on your plans I can have an idea...
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PM me, I will give you a few numbers to work with. If you are single or there by yourself, it’s ok money. With a family (children in international schools) think twice.
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Kimono, a good advestisement for anger managament classes.
seriosly get some help. You cant be so angry and still be in the cockpit.
As far as job security? Over 14 years for me. New 5 year contract and i am not expecting to be terminated during it. As always keeping an eye on the situation and will leave before i am pushed, and wont be the last to turn the lights out.
but for now, i dont see any issues for my next five years.
The renumeration is too low now, so hoping something may be done. I am getting too many offers of more money to ignore.
If you are a contract expat FO then you are always at risk.
seriosly get some help. You cant be so angry and still be in the cockpit.
As far as job security? Over 14 years for me. New 5 year contract and i am not expecting to be terminated during it. As always keeping an eye on the situation and will leave before i am pushed, and wont be the last to turn the lights out.
but for now, i dont see any issues for my next five years.
The renumeration is too low now, so hoping something may be done. I am getting too many offers of more money to ignore.
If you are a contract expat FO then you are always at risk.
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going through the roof; especially in Hanoi and Da Nang; at the UN Intl. you will pay almost US$2k per kid; add to that a quality home somewhere nice, your 10.8 will start disappearing as quickly as you see it coming in...
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I can confirm that. Prices have gone up 20%. A good school will cost you 2000 USD. Don't forget also the premium you are paying because you are an expat, on everything that does not have price tag on it. Sometime up 4 times more then a local would have paid. VNA really needs to reconsider the salaries, specially now when Bamboo is opening.
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So 4 on 4 off and 5 on 3 off is only for instructors according to the FCI website that's a bit crap. I don't think they're going to increase the $$ as it wasn't long ago they did the increment thing but I guess if they cannot get pilots then money talks.
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There has been expected pay increase since 2007 and its never happened, as long as they can get people then nothing will change. Theres never a shortage of desperate guys waiting to join just round the corner.
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Good evening everyone, may i ask which agency is the best suited for work out there? FCI and Rishworth both seem to have contracts however, i was told of a third but cannot seem to find it? Does one have to use an agency or can one simply apply directly? Upon reading all the posts on here the last one regarding the interview process was some 4 yours ago. Is there any “new” changes to prepare for i.e. written test and sim for the airbus fleets? I my self am in my mid 50’s airbus rated. I was told to use ace the pilot interview, is this sufficient to study? Smooth flights to you all, hope that you all get the payrise sonner rather than later.
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Third one is PARC. For the interview, there's multiple choice questions with majority of the items coming from Smart Cockpit. Interview portion for my case were mostly airbus specific questions and Low Vis procedures. Nothing from the Ace book, but it's always different questions with different interviewers. Good luck.
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Hiring A350 FO's
My gosh, and now they are "trying" to hire FO's for the A350?? And the most important, they said with upgrade opportunity? I really don't know if to laugh or cry, hahaha!!!!! Who will be the brave one who will even think about it?? When one year ago they fired all expat FO's and asked the expat captains to reduce their roster pattern to 4x4 because they had too many pilots? Now many of the local pilots left to Bamboo Airways and they need to cover the huge hole they have, and then, when they don't need you anymore, good bye again with 60 days notice. Don't trust any agency guys, everything is a joke, really. But if someone dares to join VNA after all things happened, up to you. I just did what i think i had to do for my colleagues. This place is not safe anymore, you will just cover the need they have for a while, then they will get rid of you, same as one year ago. Good luck!!
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It’s simple, if you’re don’t want to deal with different mentalities and ways you stay at your local LCC and do 4 legs every day for 30 years (unless your country offers a good legacy and you’re good/lucky enough to get in).
IF NOT, then you enjoy different experiences throughout your career that even 20 years ago would be unthinkable, and accept the this comes with some downsides and risks.
Up to you.
IF NOT, then you enjoy different experiences throughout your career that even 20 years ago would be unthinkable, and accept the this comes with some downsides and risks.
Up to you.
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i disagree. No more than anywhere else. The point of being a contract pilot is you are only here until the host has enough local guys to replace you. Then you get a contract somewhere else.
i have been here nearly 15 years. 5 years longer than i expected. And i expect to be here at least another 5 years if i want to be. I may look to move if no salary increase comes along sson. But i dont see them replacing all the expats in the next 5 years, maybe more.
as a contractor, you are still a temporary post holder though. Take it or leave it. Any downturn, we will be the first out the door..
i have been here nearly 15 years. 5 years longer than i expected. And i expect to be here at least another 5 years if i want to be. I may look to move if no salary increase comes along sson. But i dont see them replacing all the expats in the next 5 years, maybe more.
as a contractor, you are still a temporary post holder though. Take it or leave it. Any downturn, we will be the first out the door..
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i disagree. No more than anywhere else. The point of being a contract pilot is you are only here until the host has enough local guys to replace you. Then you get a contract somewhere else.
i have been here nearly 15 years. 5 years longer than i expected. And i expect to be here at least another 5 years if i want to be. I may look to move if no salary increase comes along sson. But i dont see them replacing all the expats in the next 5 years, maybe more.
as a contractor, you are still a temporary post holder though. Take it or leave it. Any downturn, we will be the first out the door..
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Look, i agree with all that you said, they can fire you whenever they want, is their company, ok. The point is that they did it already last year, firing with 60 days notice all expat FO's, and why? Because they had a business with Mr Patella who was bringing expat cadets, these guys paid 100.000 USD to VNA for the training ( one of these cadets told me personally ) without salary, just an apartment in Royal City for the first year. If they quit before 5 years, they loose the money. Of course, all of them knew that was just an investment and they will loose the money, and VNA also. So, 1 million USD per 10 expat cadets, such an amazing business, plus no salary, much cheaper than a proffesional SFO. So this is how VNA works in general. Yesterday was good, today so so, but tomorrow will be not better. I have been there 15 years also, and around one year ago i left VNA, and yes, maybe you know me, but of course i will not reveal who am i. The idea is ro warn all other colleagues about VNA, specially SFO, because now they are looking for A350 FO's. Sorry, but you can't say they will be safe here. With the A350 TR, if they give you the 60 days notice, tell me where will you find a new job. So that's why, don't believe the agencies, there is not any kind of upgrade apportunity, unless you know the right person to pass him/her 25.000 usd under the table. So, if you are flying A350 in some other company and your position is at least stable, don't risk that stability, soon or later you will value that the most. And just in case somebody forgot, here are the numbers again. Explain that pale!!
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in the sim for some ridiculous situations, like the subjetive CRM.
