Vietnam Airlines (info please)
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Thanks v much for that.
Could anybody shed some light on what kind of duty days there are please and is there a fixed roster pattern during the 6 weeks on (ie. 5 on 2 off)
cheers
cj
Could anybody shed some light on what kind of duty days there are please and is there a fixed roster pattern during the 6 weeks on (ie. 5 on 2 off)
cheers
cj
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There is no point in contacting anyone directly at Vietnam Airlines. It may possibly even piss someone off. In Asia you must follow proper procedures and protocol. Doing otherwise could cause someone to "Lose Face".
They do take direct entry Captains if that is what you are asking.
In fact most Captains on contract are hired directly to the Captain position. There have been a few F/O upgrades but you have to pay for the training and put up a bond. Not many have done it.
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As stupid as it sounds, yes, they want you to pay for the training, AND also put up a $30,000 3 YEAR training bond.
I believe the training is actually paid by either Vietnam Airlines or your contractor, (PARC, Rishworth, Euro Pacific) and then it is paid back by payroll deduction.
After the upgrade, you will be making about $2,000 a month more which is also the amount you have deducted each month until you are fully repaid.
So in effect you put up the $30,000 bond, get trained without pay, then re-pay the training for about 2 years. After 3 years you bond is up and you can leave or stay.
I believe this is the way it was done for 767 CA to 777 CA upgrades, and also 320 FO to 320 CA upgrades.
I am no longer at Vietnam Airlines so I can't say for certain if it is still done this way.
I believe the training is actually paid by either Vietnam Airlines or your contractor, (PARC, Rishworth, Euro Pacific) and then it is paid back by payroll deduction.
After the upgrade, you will be making about $2,000 a month more which is also the amount you have deducted each month until you are fully repaid.
So in effect you put up the $30,000 bond, get trained without pay, then re-pay the training for about 2 years. After 3 years you bond is up and you can leave or stay.
I believe this is the way it was done for 767 CA to 777 CA upgrades, and also 320 FO to 320 CA upgrades.
I am no longer at Vietnam Airlines so I can't say for certain if it is still done this way.
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hi
i'm exactly in the same situation according to my agency i have been selected for screening.
but i m waiting for a sim date since JAN 09 .
i tried to contact PARC but as long as they are not advertising on their site they do not take any application.
the only info i got is: they should (VAC) resume screening for ATR in mid april
b###sh## or truth ???? who knows
any infos will be very nice
thanks
i'm exactly in the same situation according to my agency i have been selected for screening.
but i m waiting for a sim date since JAN 09 .
i tried to contact PARC but as long as they are not advertising on their site they do not take any application.
the only info i got is: they should (VAC) resume screening for ATR in mid april
b###sh## or truth ???? who knows
any infos will be very nice
thanks
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ASA I know anything I will let You know.For the time being it is virtually a desert.I mean ATR desert.No one seems to know anything.India is launching sth called Decc...sth.But the roster is...hmmm..nth special...wages as usual with sth less on accom.Vietnam looks promising..but it is impossible to reverse the clock by half a year
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no BS
its very difficult 4 them (VAC) to find SIM slots just to do screenings
priority goes obvios 1st to sim's 4 the house pilots going on all the time
and AATC is always, you might know, full all the time
if they hapen to give you a sim date, better take, cause to get another 1 in the near future .................mmm. possible but tough
friend of mine said no to the 1st date they gave him , then waited 4 months the next 1
again its a case by case basis, some with more luck than others
keep it up
its very difficult 4 them (VAC) to find SIM slots just to do screenings
priority goes obvios 1st to sim's 4 the house pilots going on all the time
and AATC is always, you might know, full all the time
if they hapen to give you a sim date, better take, cause to get another 1 in the near future .................mmm. possible but tough
friend of mine said no to the 1st date they gave him , then waited 4 months the next 1
again its a case by case basis, some with more luck than others
keep it up
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thanks for your infos actually that's exactly what i thought (about the slot) the problem is the total lack of communication from the agencies.
give me a date tomorrow i ll be there yesterday.
cheers
thanks for your infos actually that's exactly what i thought (about the slot) the problem is the total lack of communication from the agencies.
give me a date tomorrow i ll be there yesterday.
cheers
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Sorry to butt in but actually your agency is the one that isn't getting information, they will do everything possible to get you online as soon as possible, the wheels of progress turn very slowly at the airline, it is run by the government here and decisions can be very bogged down. Even if you were to contact one of the fleet managers in Vietnam, they may not be able to give you any answer, keep in close contact with your agency consultant!
Good luck, D.L.
Good luck, D.L.
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I take it You work for themAny chance for a few how it is down there?.I mean accom.food,girls,transportationThe thing is some other copanies are taking now..I would like to wait for Vietnam though...and this lack of "yes","no".or "maybe" is quite disturbing.I am not pushing the hiring company as well cause I suspect they are also in the mist right now..Best regards
JK
Any chance for a few how it is down there?.I mean accom.food,girls,transportationThe thing is some other copanies are taking now..I would like to wait for Vietnam though...and this lack of "yes","no".or "maybe" is quite disturbing.I am not pushing the hiring company as well cause I suspect they are also in the mist right now..Best regardsJK
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accomodation...........from cheap to expensive & super luxury, from 500 bucks a month to $6,000 a house in district 2, but normally good houses & good apartments go from $800 to $2000, some like it close to the office in the airport area others far away in district 7 south of city aprox 15 to 17 km's from airport)
food............from all over the place, also, some places are too expensive
girls.....................well...........ahhh..........heave n! (((sorry female pilot's)))
and yes its true other companies are hiring, i think som guys will end up in cebu pacific, theyre paying a lot, 11K for line capt & 12,5K for TRI, that for sure will get the attention of some skippers
the yes or no, its in theyre blood...............like DL said it , its government runed airline, so evrything here is "status quo"
food............from all over the place, also, some places are too expensive
girls.....................well...........ahhh..........heave n! (((sorry female pilot's)))
and yes its true other companies are hiring, i think som guys will end up in cebu pacific, theyre paying a lot, 11K for line capt & 12,5K for TRI, that for sure will get the attention of some skippers
the yes or no, its in theyre blood...............like DL said it , its government runed airline, so evrything here is "status quo"
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5J is taking on expat skippers dudes. F/O recruitment restricted to nationals. And by the way, don't get too excited about the money because the time off isn't paid !!
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even with the month OFF not being paid ...... still salary is 10K more per year
with the big plus that U get confirmed ticket all the way home evrytime off
not just to CDG or FRA, u save a lot of money there , depending on your base
dont know the place, or airline.....some say its good, others dont
well never be satisfied he he he he i guess
5J is the IATA code of cebu
keep it up
with the big plus that U get confirmed ticket all the way home evrytime off
not just to CDG or FRA, u save a lot of money there , depending on your base
dont know the place, or airline.....some say its good, others dont
well never be satisfied he he he he i guess
5J is the IATA code of cebu
keep it up