Vietnam Airlines (info please)

[pezetaroi]

Turns out that the “offer” for VNA A320 FOs is a cheap and dirty trick done by FCI to attract interested aviators. When any applicant refers to this job, after apologizing because “VNA has put FO recruitment on hold” they quickly offer an interview for Jetstar, attaching their current T&Cs on the email.
It is confirmed that VNA is NOT hiring ex pat First Officers, so just beware of the agency you are dealing with...

[kwaiyai]

Well that makes sense especially when you read the post showing an email from VNA planning to let First officers go etc and they will help relocate etc etc,

Regarding opportunities available to you, I note that we work very closely with Jetstar Pacific and they are currently recruiting A320 FOs. Please find attached the brief outlining details of this role. Also attached are briefing documents for other roles that you may qualify for and be interested in. Please do not hesitate to contact the Recruitment Consultant noted on the brief for further information about any of these roles, and copy me into your email.
Once again, we will keep you all updated as news come to hand. In the meantime, if you have any further questions, please let me know.

Kind regards,
Regional Manager

[kimono1950]

JPA what a joke . They call it a commuting contract , but JPA do not provide the airfares. The wages, too, are too low comparing to VNA. VNA do not need FOs ( it has hired 750 cadets ), it needs a few Cpts for a 2 years transition . The agencies use VNA to catch some morons to fly for JPA at sub standard, so called commuting job .

Try Vietjet, at least that bunch of idiots will pay you a lot more .

[EagleA25]

Originally Posted by pezetaroi

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It is confirmed that VNA is NOT hiring ex pat First Officers, so just beware of the agency you are dealing with...

Rumor has it that there are some 400 Local and Pay-to-fly FO’s un the pipeline, the locals being kindly asked to become pilots at almost gunpoint.
So, gone are the days of flying with sons of B787 Management Pilots?

[BAe 146-100]

If your intent of coming to vietnam then Vietjet is your only option and as a capt only, the other 2 are to be avoided. Unless in the case of JPA you wanna fly the same routes and get less money and fly aussie rules .

[Ecam321]

Originally Posted by kimono1950

JPA what a joke . They call it a commuting contract , but JPA do not provide the airfares. The wages, too, are too low comparing to VNA. VNA do not need FOs ( it has hired 750 cadets ), it needs a few Cpts for a 2 years transition . The agencies use VNA to catch some morons to fly for JPA at sub standard, so called commuting job .

Try Vietjet, at least that bunch of idiots will pay you a lot more .

so Vietjet pay more than JPA and VNA ? Please could you tell me the average ball park monthly salary of a Vietjet captain.

thanks

[AviatoR21]

Since when was flying ‘Aussie rules’ a bad thing? We are safe, disciplined and adhere to SOP. Unlike the rest of the circus in Vietnam who choose money over safety and security. Good luck to you, personally I’d rather not end up in a smoking hole.

[BAe 146-100]

So in that case because your so called “safer”” (that’s objective by the way) your happy getting paid less for flying the same routes. Ah yes we don’t work for more money, what a stupid concept.

[AviatoR21]

We all work for money! What I’m alluding to is the fact that we don’t fly 200 hour months or pay for command upgrades. Clearly you’re one of the circus monkeys Im talking about who would do a trick for a penny.

[kimono1950]

Originally Posted by Ecam321

so Vietjet pay more than JPA and VNA ? Please could you tell me the average ball park monthly salary of a Vietjet captain.

thanks

between 14000 and 16000 US$.

[iggy]

Basic + 100 hours + 50 sectors gives you 12.850 USD, not including perdiems of 50 USD per layover, 80 if it is international. Depending on your agency, time in the airline and performance you may get an additional couple of hundred, 500 tops.

[EagleA25]

Aaaaand.... another one... 🤣

I think it’s time for VNA to purchase Bogey Main Gears...

Accident: Vietnam A321 at Hanoi on Jul 28th 2018, temporary runway excursion on landing

what’s that...? The Third Excursion in 18 month’s...?
Sure, nothing wrong with VNA’s Training, ADM and management system... nothing to see here 🤣

[Jimmy The Big Greek]

was the pilots expats again?

[wingdeagle]

Originally Posted by EagleA25

I think it’s time for VNA to purchase Bogey Main Gears...

Accident: Vietnam A321 at Hanoi on Jul 28th 2018, temporary runway excursion on landing

what’s that...? The Third Excursion in 18 month’s...?
Sure, nothing wrong with VNA’s Training, ADM and management system... nothing to see here 🤣

These trips into the green are becoming as regular and frequent as the monsoon rain. While runway excursions do happen all over the world, this is like the fifth or sixth in 18 months for VNA (correct me if I am wrong) ? If a certain trend here is not obvious, than the powers in charge are blind. In any case, another public humiliation of "blame the pilots" and every thing is fixed again. Till the next time.

[kimono1950]

VNA got ride of the experienced pilots and people seems surprised of this event !

[EagleA25]

And Ups... they did it again...

This one’s fantastic; actually occurred just a few days before the one on top:

Accident: Vietnam A321 at Vinh on Jul 16th 2018, foreign object damage during roll out, temporary runway excursion

I am sure all is explainable... if I was an insurance underwrite, I’d be more than worried. How is VNA still allowed to operate?
They should give Airbus a big kissy; the 321’s a freakin’ truck..!!

[fatbus]

Black list time!

[flying.midget]

hello all, any 787 drivers out there mind answering some questions pm or public? 78 rated and current, but wife and I looking for some new scenery after staring into the abyss of sand for too long now. 1 older child overseas so no schooling required, only got 5/6 years left so not looking for a long time just a (relativity) good time.

-anyone on the 6/2 pattern have a roster or mind sharing some info on the usual trips/hours
-staff travel for myself and spouse only or extended to children? J class ID90 available?
-how are trips, the 350 getting the cream of the crop? or still some good destinations on the 78?

any other info is greatly appreciated.

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cheers f.m

[King on a Wing]

Yep.
Just as Flying Midget put it. Looking for any info on the 789 skipper deal.
Is the take home about the same for the 6/2 and the 3/1? That is about 13K usd?
Hows the lifestyle for a wife and self only.
Is it easy for the wife to commute into Vietnam on a monthly or two monthly basis.
If given a choice which base is better. Hanoi or Ho Chi Min.

Kindly humour me gents. Looking for valid info please.
Thanks

[BAe 146-100]

80% Hanoi and Saigon, maybe once in a while if your lucky you could fly to Korea, the viets take all the good flights to bring duty free to sell back home... who would have thought it