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Is that right mate.
And how did you come about that nugget of information ... did you hear it from a friend of a friend of a friend or read it elsewhere on pprune?
Unlike you, I don't make it my business to pry into well-known people's individual salary packages, and publish them on the internet without their permission ... but I would be very surprised if the two Rishworth pilot support captains did not get paid a bit extra to provide support services and dealings with management on behalf of the rest of us, and more power to them. Rishworth gets an absolute bargain out of them two for the excellent services they provide to us. Who are the PARC equivalent of those two guys by the way, I don't believe I've seen them around?
I don't believe your "rumour" re medical insurance for a second, but I can tell you that the "rumour" I heard as reported elsewhere on the thread, is that the best hospital in town (FV) doesn't recognize BUPA / PARC's medical insurance provider at all, as the captain who recently had a serious motorbike accident found out, when he had to find a large US$ advance on the credit card before they'd even admit him.
Good luck with your digging of more sensational news scoops on Rishworth there dude, keep the entertainment coming
And how did you come about that nugget of information ... did you hear it from a friend of a friend of a friend or read it elsewhere on pprune?
Unlike you, I don't make it my business to pry into well-known people's individual salary packages, and publish them on the internet without their permission ... but I would be very surprised if the two Rishworth pilot support captains did not get paid a bit extra to provide support services and dealings with management on behalf of the rest of us, and more power to them. Rishworth gets an absolute bargain out of them two for the excellent services they provide to us. Who are the PARC equivalent of those two guys by the way, I don't believe I've seen them around?
I don't believe your "rumour" re medical insurance for a second, but I can tell you that the "rumour" I heard as reported elsewhere on the thread, is that the best hospital in town (FV) doesn't recognize BUPA / PARC's medical insurance provider at all, as the captain who recently had a serious motorbike accident found out, when he had to find a large US$ advance on the credit card before they'd even admit him.
Good luck with your digging of more sensational news scoops on Rishworth there dude, keep the entertainment coming
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proud of our own culture
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I am one of the Taiwanese pilots in VA. I am appalled by the accusation that you made towards some of our fellow pilots here. I hope that these claims stand an actual fact and proof and not just your own made-up fantasy.
First of all, I don't know where you get the idea that we want to become Vietnamese people, with all due respect to them. Do you want to be a national that you're not? We are very proud of our own heritage and culture. It is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard.
Secondly, it is not in our culture to write reports behind someone else. Although I would be too hypocritical to say that it never happened. But what about in your own culture? Don't tell me it never did. It's the human nature! Bad seeds exist in every culture!!
Most of the Taiwanese pilots here, like a lot of fellow pilots from other countries, just want to fly safely and enjoy the life that this country can offer. I do agree with you that we are all expats here and we need to look out for each other. if there are some sort of misunderstandings, I'm sure we can all work it out and leave it behind us. but blatantly de-value our culture and people is something I can not tolerate.
I am one of the Taiwanese pilots in VA. I am appalled by the accusation that you made towards some of our fellow pilots here. I hope that these claims stand an actual fact and proof and not just your own made-up fantasy.
First of all, I don't know where you get the idea that we want to become Vietnamese people, with all due respect to them. Do you want to be a national that you're not? We are very proud of our own heritage and culture. It is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard.
Secondly, it is not in our culture to write reports behind someone else. Although I would be too hypocritical to say that it never happened. But what about in your own culture? Don't tell me it never did. It's the human nature! Bad seeds exist in every culture!!
Most of the Taiwanese pilots here, like a lot of fellow pilots from other countries, just want to fly safely and enjoy the life that this country can offer. I do agree with you that we are all expats here and we need to look out for each other. if there are some sort of misunderstandings, I'm sure we can all work it out and leave it behind us. but blatantly de-value our culture and people is something I can not tolerate.
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VA A320 Captain - PIC time
Hi,
Apologies to change subject...
Thought someone might be able to answer that one:
as part of the requirements for A320 capt contracts with Vietnam Airlines, most agencies are asking for 4000h TT, 1500h PIC, 500h PIC on type.
Does anyone know if the 1500h PIC could be negiociable with any agencies?
Cheers!
Apologies to change subject...
Thought someone might be able to answer that one:
as part of the requirements for A320 capt contracts with Vietnam Airlines, most agencies are asking for 4000h TT, 1500h PIC, 500h PIC on type.
Does anyone know if the 1500h PIC could be negiociable with any agencies?
Cheers!
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is that the best hospital in town (FV) doesn't recognize BUPA / PARC's medical insurance provider at all, as the captain who recently had a serious motorbike accident found out, when he had to find a large US$ advance on the credit card before they'd even admit him.
Next; within the hour BUPA telephoned the injured pilot in his hospital room and confirmed that they would be paying ALL the costs, less a very small deductible (100 GBP).
This is not something that I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend. I personally answered the phone call from the BUPA representative who explained all the details, and then relayed that information to the injured pilot myself, so I do know the facts in this particular case.
Regarding other issues concerning the PARC / Rishworth debate, I prefer to remain mute.
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For Mr or Ms ...
Hi! there, I think respect me is asking that so call: Prisoner No# 320 who try to light-up a fire between expat pilot, so please be patient, some nice guy here will answer your question soon!
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Does anyone know if the 1500h PIC could be negiociable with any agencies?
But, we have witnessed a lot of things happen that over the years that we did not expect. For example, we've seen non-type rated people get hired. We've seen F/O's get upgraded who were under the minimum age specified for a captain. We've also seen these minimum requirements change vastly over the years.
I do know that VNA have hired pilots with less than the specified requirements,
so it would seem that it is possible, but the official answer remains.Good luck
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Dear VVTS25R/ PappyJ,
Many thanks for your answer. I'll definately give it a try.
Despite the few bad things written, it still seems a very nice company to work for.
Happy landings
Many thanks for your answer. I'll definately give it a try.
Despite the few bad things written, it still seems a very nice company to work for.
Happy landings
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Luke. I've been here 7 years so i know lots actually.
I don't pry but when i arrived with RAL some old friends of mine were here already. They were from the Airbus days so i had inside knowledge. Your suggestion of prying is a bit rich. More like your lack of appreciation of how much you are being shafted. Maybe you should avoid sitting down!
The original Airbus contract of 1995 included BUPA Gold and Loss of Licence. When RAL took it over a few years back they continued to pay the original Airbus contract guys the same insurance and LoL. They still do. But they save money by giving you less. I had to pay 1000 a year extra to upgrade my insurance to BUPA. They can do it. They have a company policy. They just don't want to pay to put you on it!
That is fact. And it's well known amongst the long timers here. Ask RN and he will tell you. It's why he didn't change to PARC when the rest of the RAL guys did, me included, 4 years ago.
The story about the FV hospital is an BUPA issue and they have taken it very seriously. It's all about some medical admissions orderly in FV and is a typical Vietnam problem.
Both of the RAL reps get either 500 or 1000 a month to do what they do. The PARC rep gets 500. That is another fact. Otherwise why would they do anything? How do i know? Because RC couldn't help himself but tell everybody what a score he got out of RAL. It's no prying. He told everybody.
When i arrived there was no help. But who needs is anyway? We're supposed to be pilots. Able to sort ourselves out. If you really need someone to hold your hand as you get off the freedom bird...
All the PARC boys are pretty happy. We didn't suffer a pay cut like you boys did.
I don't pry but when i arrived with RAL some old friends of mine were here already. They were from the Airbus days so i had inside knowledge. Your suggestion of prying is a bit rich. More like your lack of appreciation of how much you are being shafted. Maybe you should avoid sitting down!
The original Airbus contract of 1995 included BUPA Gold and Loss of Licence. When RAL took it over a few years back they continued to pay the original Airbus contract guys the same insurance and LoL. They still do. But they save money by giving you less. I had to pay 1000 a year extra to upgrade my insurance to BUPA. They can do it. They have a company policy. They just don't want to pay to put you on it!
That is fact. And it's well known amongst the long timers here. Ask RN and he will tell you. It's why he didn't change to PARC when the rest of the RAL guys did, me included, 4 years ago.
The story about the FV hospital is an BUPA issue and they have taken it very seriously. It's all about some medical admissions orderly in FV and is a typical Vietnam problem.
Both of the RAL reps get either 500 or 1000 a month to do what they do. The PARC rep gets 500. That is another fact. Otherwise why would they do anything? How do i know? Because RC couldn't help himself but tell everybody what a score he got out of RAL. It's no prying. He told everybody.
When i arrived there was no help. But who needs is anyway? We're supposed to be pilots. Able to sort ourselves out. If you really need someone to hold your hand as you get off the freedom bird...
All the PARC boys are pretty happy. We didn't suffer a pay cut like you boys did.
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Yes IP, on the original contract they were put up in the Omni and made 13 months salary too, what does any of your ranting have to do with anything that is actually relevant to newcomers?
Amazing!
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I'm pointing out that the the PARC contract is the same as the contract RAL give to their very senior pilots. And as such is better than the standard RAL pilot contract.
You keep saying the RAL contract is the same. But it's not, otherwise why would the senior RAL guys still get BUPA and LOL.
And PARC honour their contract. RAL doesn't. Or do i need to mention the PAY CUT again?
You are a RAL employee. Newcomers are after the truth.
You keep saying the RAL contract is the same. But it's not, otherwise why would the senior RAL guys still get BUPA and LOL.
And PARC honour their contract. RAL doesn't. Or do i need to mention the PAY CUT again?
You are a RAL employee. Newcomers are after the truth.
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Rishworth is crap man. I come here more one year ago, listen to RC bull **** but really should come wit parc. Rishwoth is joke the same so many 3rd world pilot they bring here. chinese and spanish is the same rishworth, all talk and crap, but can't fly and always talk **** about other foreigner pilot. Rishworth only care about they're money. they no help me when i need something. Parc is number one but to late for changing.
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pilot job vacancies on atr in Vietname
Hi for everybody,
im pilot on atr42/72-500, type rated in toulouse and i have 350 hrs as first officer. And im looking a job in Vietname Airliners.
im pilot on atr42/72-500, type rated in toulouse and i have 350 hrs as first officer. And im looking a job in Vietname Airliners.
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I'd be careful about attacking an agencies pilots. We're all the same brother. we take the contract from the agency that offers it.
I can 100 % assure you that the overall quality of pilots from all the agencies is the same.
What i'd like to see is the same treatment of the pilots from the agencies. If we all know what each agency does maybe we can pressure them into it.
Incidentally the RAL contract has improved a lot since PARC came to town. Anyone care to dispute me can feel free, but i can assure you that the RAl medical was appalling until they started losing people to PARC.
I've just heard that RAL are paying on the 10th now like DPI? VAC pay the agencies on the 15th, and PARC pay us on the 25th. RAL used to pay at the end of the month. Please tell me they haven't followed DPI now??? Do they sit on your salary for 25 days??? Do they put it in the same bank account with your pay cut i wonder????
I can 100 % assure you that the overall quality of pilots from all the agencies is the same.
What i'd like to see is the same treatment of the pilots from the agencies. If we all know what each agency does maybe we can pressure them into it.
Incidentally the RAL contract has improved a lot since PARC came to town. Anyone care to dispute me can feel free, but i can assure you that the RAl medical was appalling until they started losing people to PARC.
I've just heard that RAL are paying on the 10th now like DPI? VAC pay the agencies on the 15th, and PARC pay us on the 25th. RAL used to pay at the end of the month. Please tell me they haven't followed DPI now??? Do they sit on your salary for 25 days??? Do they put it in the same bank account with your pay cut i wonder????