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Not yet ...
After 2-3 years of ups and downs we're finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. It's not time to shut down this thread yet. I've been in touch with TREs, TRIs, SFIs involved with MPL training: CAAP and ICAO are monitoring the IOE phase of the MPLs. The soap opera is not over until the fat lady sings.
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Its time to refresh the thread again.
Globalhawk. How is the light at the end of the tunnel doing? Still bright or is the torch running out of batteries?
The silence from CA is deafening....
Globalhawk. How is the light at the end of the tunnel doing? Still bright or is the torch running out of batteries?
The silence from CA is deafening....
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clark's CPL/IR comes to an end
confirmed from 2 guys that their CPL/IR program is over.
no graduates, no news, and no airline employment from their CPL program.
must be a big failure, i guess?
no graduates, no news, and no airline employment from their CPL program.
must be a big failure, i guess?
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hi! newbie here...
I really want to be a pilot but I dont know where to start...
I saw this ad from Clark Aviation and i am really interested about it especially the MPL license...
With all the comments in this thread, I'm just wondering if this school is good... I'm planning to apply next year.
I really want to be a pilot but I dont know where to start...
I saw this ad from Clark Aviation and i am really interested about it especially the MPL license...
With all the comments in this thread, I'm just wondering if this school is good... I'm planning to apply next year.
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How is the light at the end of the tunnel doing? Still bright or is the torch running out of batteries?
My apologies Sir, I'm too busy flying to follow up with my contacts - the best info I can give at the moment:
.... Air Arabia - the Bahrainis have started flying; the Indians are waiting for their training slots.
... Zest Air - the first batch of MPL pilots are flying
... Air Phil Express - have interviewed/selected MPL pilots, no further action yet
My apologies Sir, I'm too busy flying to follow up with my contacts - the best info I can give at the moment:
.... Air Arabia - the Bahrainis have started flying; the Indians are waiting for their training slots.
... Zest Air - the first batch of MPL pilots are flying
... Air Phil Express - have interviewed/selected MPL pilots, no further action yet
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p.s. I was told by a reliable source that CAAP and ICAO are working out the proper procedure for the MPL pilot's IOE phase - monitoring, progress reporting, etc. Hence the delay in implementation for Air Phil Express - pilots will (or might) be seconded to PAL for the IOE phase.
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" ... confirmed from 2 guys that their CPL/IR program is over."
My Clark source says otherwise. A couple of pilots from the MidEast finished their A320 type rating course and has started qualifying for an airline back home. A few more are in the pipeline. CA has embarked on a marketing program for their CPL/IR course and is reorganizing its worldwide network of training centers (a new one is planned in the U.S.).
My Clark source says otherwise. A couple of pilots from the MidEast finished their A320 type rating course and has started qualifying for an airline back home. A few more are in the pipeline. CA has embarked on a marketing program for their CPL/IR course and is reorganizing its worldwide network of training centers (a new one is planned in the U.S.).
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"CA has embarked on a marketing program for their CPL/IR course and is reorganizing its worldwide network of training centers (a new one is planned in the U.S.)."
embarked on a marketing program for their CPL/IR course? my 2 sources (prospective students) told me CIA has put the program on hold until further notice.
embarked on a marketing program for their CPL/IR course? my 2 sources (prospective students) told me CIA has put the program on hold until further notice.
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So, the plot thickens..... We have commentators with different views (info) about what is happening at CA.
I did not even know that CA had a licence to do CPL/IR training and now I hear that they do A320 TRs....
On the other hand we have conflicting news about the deal with Air Arabia. Some say the Bahrainis are flying (IOE?) but the Indians that were on the same group are on hold. Until when and what is CA doing about it?
Some say that other philippino airlines are willing to employ MPLrs. But are these positions available to the Indian guys too or are they reserved for the locals (ref. Cebu Pacific)?
After all, the Indian guys were there from the begining and they just keep on being screwed left, right and center.....
If CA is qualified to give A320 TRs, why not give these guys a CPL/IR with an A320 TR and finish their suffering once and for all?
Almost four years.......
I did not even know that CA had a licence to do CPL/IR training and now I hear that they do A320 TRs....
On the other hand we have conflicting news about the deal with Air Arabia. Some say the Bahrainis are flying (IOE?) but the Indians that were on the same group are on hold. Until when and what is CA doing about it?
Some say that other philippino airlines are willing to employ MPLrs. But are these positions available to the Indian guys too or are they reserved for the locals (ref. Cebu Pacific)?
After all, the Indian guys were there from the begining and they just keep on being screwed left, right and center.....
If CA is qualified to give A320 TRs, why not give these guys a CPL/IR with an A320 TR and finish their suffering once and for all?
Almost four years.......
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@ CA's CPL/IR Programme
Hmmm.. 
Why are we expecting a lot from Clark Aviation? Other students from different schools around the Philippines complete their CPL/IR also. At the same situation, no airline employment for them also. Will that mean the operation of a certain flight school is a FAILURE as well if they don't produce graduates hired by airlines after finishing a fresh CPL/IR program?
Why are we expecting a lot from Clark Aviation? Other students from different schools around the Philippines complete their CPL/IR also. At the same situation, no airline employment for them also. Will that mean the operation of a certain flight school is a FAILURE as well if they don't produce graduates hired by airlines after finishing a fresh CPL/IR program?
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Aerocadet.
I think you missing the point here. The subject is the MPLrs that are still waiting for the fulfillment of the CA promises (an A320 FO qualification and employment) and for which they (CA) got paid handsomelly.
Why doesn't CA provide those poor MPLrs a CPL/IR with an A320 TR (obtained by doing the MPL) and let them find their way in the aviation world?
It is not a question of expecting TOO MUCH from CA. what is expected is that they do the right thing, as all honest people do.
I think you missing the point here. The subject is the MPLrs that are still waiting for the fulfillment of the CA promises (an A320 FO qualification and employment) and for which they (CA) got paid handsomelly.
Why doesn't CA provide those poor MPLrs a CPL/IR with an A320 TR (obtained by doing the MPL) and let them find their way in the aviation world?
It is not a question of expecting TOO MUCH from CA. what is expected is that they do the right thing, as all honest people do.
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@ traveller93
All right. I understand. Maybe I was just overlooking the details here. Anyway, I inquired yesterday about their CPL/IR course. They answered my concerns very well. 
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Zest Air MPL trainees
I didn't know that Zest Air has MPL trainees at CIA...
Are the trainees company-sponsored? How many trainees and when were they recruited to the MPL program?
Are the trainees company-sponsored? How many trainees and when were they recruited to the MPL program?
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@onedelacruz
zestair did not sponsor any MPL cadets, they're only plucking guys now who are available and needing employment.
@traveller
its a shock to me that for a long-time poster here you missed some basic info--suggest to recheck the validity of your CA sources. if they are of any use they will tell you whatever happend to this so-called CPL/IR with A320 TR alternative.
@aerocadet
care to share the concerns and the answers?
zestair did not sponsor any MPL cadets, they're only plucking guys now who are available and needing employment.
@traveller
its a shock to me that for a long-time poster here you missed some basic info--suggest to recheck the validity of your CA sources. if they are of any use they will tell you whatever happend to this so-called CPL/IR with A320 TR alternative.
@aerocadet
care to share the concerns and the answers?
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Chairwrecker.
I hope that old age is not affecting my memory that much.....
I read here, some time ago, that CA had applied for a CPL/IR training license but were waiting for the approval. Now it seems they got it but lost it? What happened?
On the other hand, there have been some postings from a Sharjah cadet regarding MPL core flying at CA but I did not see any connection with CPL.... Looks like I missed something....
I wish I had some source within CA but I don't. Nevertheless we know they are very much aware of what is written here. Aren't we?
I hope that old age is not affecting my memory that much.....
I read here, some time ago, that CA had applied for a CPL/IR training license but were waiting for the approval. Now it seems they got it but lost it? What happened?
On the other hand, there have been some postings from a Sharjah cadet regarding MPL core flying at CA but I did not see any connection with CPL.... Looks like I missed something....
I wish I had some source within CA but I don't. Nevertheless we know they are very much aware of what is written here. Aren't we?