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@bagoongathipon
assuming all your points are correct (i still reserve my own judgments until validation is made on the current MPLers), the point is CA's difficulties in large part were due to its own making. they took a lot of liberties in implementing their MPL program. and im being nice in my words.
assuming all your points are correct (i still reserve my own judgments until validation is made on the current MPLers), the point is CA's difficulties in large part were due to its own making. they took a lot of liberties in implementing their MPL program. and im being nice in my words.
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@Chairwrecker
I agree with you 100% that the difficulties were of Clark Aviation's wrong doings. The way I saw and experienced it since 2006, It seems and looked that they just ventured in it without carefully studying the cadet program and their business plan. Its like they just have the money and cebupac agreed on taking on the first cadets and experienced everything along the way.
But no matter how disappointed i was with the first, 2nd and 3rd management of Clark Av, spending 3years in schooling, im glad that the last management I dealt with has solved its problems along the way.
With all the problems we encountered, the years spent trying to resolve these problems.. It was still the easier path compared to what the general aviation pilots has gone through. (and I have so much respect on how they endured just to be able to join the airline industry).
So, is MPL the easier path? compared to SPL-PPL-CPL... INDEED. Is the program better? We have our own opinions unless a response from the different airline instructor/chief pilots who has MPL flying with them. I believe they will be the most credible people to ask to.
I agree with you 100% that the difficulties were of Clark Aviation's wrong doings. The way I saw and experienced it since 2006, It seems and looked that they just ventured in it without carefully studying the cadet program and their business plan. Its like they just have the money and cebupac agreed on taking on the first cadets and experienced everything along the way.
But no matter how disappointed i was with the first, 2nd and 3rd management of Clark Av, spending 3years in schooling, im glad that the last management I dealt with has solved its problems along the way.
With all the problems we encountered, the years spent trying to resolve these problems.. It was still the easier path compared to what the general aviation pilots has gone through. (and I have so much respect on how they endured just to be able to join the airline industry).
So, is MPL the easier path? compared to SPL-PPL-CPL... INDEED. Is the program better? We have our own opinions unless a response from the different airline instructor/chief pilots who has MPL flying with them. I believe they will be the most credible people to ask to.
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Marketing dept informed me that their CPL/IR is back. They put it on-hold for the last 2 months because they cant compete using avgas while most schools use mogas. Sorry clark av, i just dont buy that ****. Good luck to the poor souls who plan to enroll there =)
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HI guys,
I've been reading through most of this thread...alots of people are stabbing the MPL & the way of the training (being Negative)...and they have the right (NO DOUBT) & others like me, are positive about it, while SOME others! are just Observing.
Just to make my Point(s)...I sat with one of the People who made a part of the MPL training Manual/Curriculum...etc. You'll be impressed that this kind of training was used LONG time ago...by whom? By the US Airforce & NASA...yep, this is how they train the Fighter Pilots...all around the world!
Ground School (3 months instead), 70hrs of flight time, Simulators...then the TOs & landings, then a Medal & a rank!
This method is used until this moment...MPL is the CIVIL version of such a training...what better outcome can you expect? The Key is the selection process at the very beginning, i.e. the cadets & thats it! You'll get a human being who is capable of handling a Hi-Tech machine, this time with Passengers in peaceful skies
I've been reading through most of this thread...alots of people are stabbing the MPL & the way of the training (being Negative)...and they have the right (NO DOUBT) & others like me, are positive about it, while SOME others! are just Observing.
Just to make my Point(s)...I sat with one of the People who made a part of the MPL training Manual/Curriculum...etc. You'll be impressed that this kind of training was used LONG time ago...by whom? By the US Airforce & NASA...yep, this is how they train the Fighter Pilots...all around the world!
Ground School (3 months instead), 70hrs of flight time, Simulators...then the TOs & landings, then a Medal & a rank!
This method is used until this moment...MPL is the CIVIL version of such a training...what better outcome can you expect? The Key is the selection process at the very beginning, i.e. the cadets & thats it! You'll get a human being who is capable of handling a Hi-Tech machine, this time with Passengers in peaceful skies
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@malirm
i think we're past that discussion. MPL has been accepted (although only by a few CAAs while the others are of wait and see position), cadets trained, and pilots hired. we should now be validating their performance. how's your own training going on?
i think we're past that discussion. MPL has been accepted (although only by a few CAAs while the others are of wait and see position), cadets trained, and pilots hired. we should now be validating their performance. how's your own training going on?
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@ Chairwrecker
I know that, I just wanted to share what I had about the MPL
As you know, I am doing my MPL in Alpha Aviation Academy UAE (CA's Sister Company)...the training will be commencing on the coming Monday, after approx. 44 days off (as we did our flight training on the C172S with CA...took us 5 months in the Wet season, that made us ask for such a vacation
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Still have the MCC, then A320 Sim & finally the 12 TOs & Landings done with Air Arabia + 40 Sectors with them...hope we'll be diluted with Air Arabia Crew by the time we finish the 40 Sectors...If you were asking why 40 Sectors as compared with outcomers (CA MPL & CPL/IR), this is because we were already trained by Air Arabia Captains using Air Arabia SOPs all the way from MCC...
Just to make the Long Story Short, what I can see & have seen, the MPL training is being Shifted to UAE (Promising Market), while PPL, CPL/IR & Frozen ATPL courses will be commenced at CA (MPL will be for sponsored guys ONLY from now on)...heard that something will happen in Australia in 2011
Wish You all the Best...whether MPLers or CPLers...
As you know, I am doing my MPL in Alpha Aviation Academy UAE (CA's Sister Company)...the training will be commencing on the coming Monday, after approx. 44 days off (as we did our flight training on the C172S with CA...took us 5 months in the Wet season, that made us ask for such a vacation
)Still have the MCC, then A320 Sim & finally the 12 TOs & Landings done with Air Arabia + 40 Sectors with them...hope we'll be diluted with Air Arabia Crew by the time we finish the 40 Sectors...If you were asking why 40 Sectors as compared with outcomers (CA MPL & CPL/IR), this is because we were already trained by Air Arabia Captains using Air Arabia SOPs all the way from MCC...
Just to make the Long Story Short, what I can see & have seen, the MPL training is being Shifted to UAE (Promising Market), while PPL, CPL/IR & Frozen ATPL courses will be commenced at CA (MPL will be for sponsored guys ONLY from now on)...heard that something will happen in Australia in 2011
Wish You all the Best...whether MPLers or CPLers...
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Another festive season is coming by and the hope is that the new year will bring, finally, good tidings to all those affected by the never ending CIA saga.
What are the predictions??
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.
Traveller93
What are the predictions??
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.
Traveller93
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whats wrong with the students of clark av, try to improve your students guys wake up instructors your students became headache of captains in zest and cebupac they dont even know how to communicate with tower.
so dont even think about it applying in tiger for direct A319 entry
so dont even think about it applying in tiger for direct A319 entry
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CPL/ME /IR and A320 FOT
Hi there,
So far I ve seen comments about the MPL, and some cadets ( bahrain and Indian ) getting jobs at Air Arabia.
I was sent an email from Clark last month about their A320 FOT programme and mentioned they have an agreement with Air Arabia, Cebu, Zenair, etc etc ...
So can somebody please tell me how organise and how true this programme is ( CPL/IR/A320 rating ) and NOT the MPL. Since I have the CPl/ME IR already I want to know the true and the reliable picture to do the A 320 rating and then get employment with the airlines they have mentioned. Has any of these Airlines taken Clark Cadets who have done the traditional CPL/IR and the A320 rating with them. Please Pm me for any confidential news regarding interveiws , age etc .....
Cheers
So far I ve seen comments about the MPL, and some cadets ( bahrain and Indian ) getting jobs at Air Arabia.
I was sent an email from Clark last month about their A320 FOT programme and mentioned they have an agreement with Air Arabia, Cebu, Zenair, etc etc ...
So can somebody please tell me how organise and how true this programme is ( CPL/IR/A320 rating ) and NOT the MPL. Since I have the CPl/ME IR already I want to know the true and the reliable picture to do the A 320 rating and then get employment with the airlines they have mentioned. Has any of these Airlines taken Clark Cadets who have done the traditional CPL/IR and the A320 rating with them. Please Pm me for any confidential news regarding interveiws , age etc .....
Cheers
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@JAMUP
"Has any of these Airlines taken Clark Cadets who have done the traditional CPL/IR and the A320 rating with them"
So far, none. you will be the guinea pig. nothing bad being the guinea pig, per se, but maybe you can ask them for discount or a staggered payment scheme where you pay, say, the last couple of dollars once their "partner airlines" show you the employment contract? whatever works, just nego with them as they also need u to validate their program. remember it's always easy for schools to say they have tie ups with so and so airline until it's time for the graduates to apply....
also what is Zenair?
"Has any of these Airlines taken Clark Cadets who have done the traditional CPL/IR and the A320 rating with them"
So far, none. you will be the guinea pig. nothing bad being the guinea pig, per se, but maybe you can ask them for discount or a staggered payment scheme where you pay, say, the last couple of dollars once their "partner airlines" show you the employment contract? whatever works, just nego with them as they also need u to validate their program. remember it's always easy for schools to say they have tie ups with so and so airline until it's time for the graduates to apply....
also what is Zenair?
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Tiger has tie up with STATA for the MPL in Ballarat/Singapore so i don't understand what onieangeles is trying to raise. is it against the MPL? against Clark Av? against a particular Clark Av cadet?
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@ chairwrecker
Oddly Specific?!
Tiger has tie up with STATA for the MPL in Ballarat/Singapore so i don't understand what onieangeles is trying to raise. is it against the MPL? against Clark Av? against a particular Clark Av cadet?
Oddly Specific?!
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mmm
have a look in the mirror dear sir... before you point out the mistakes of others.
if you really are a pilot, then I have to say your english $ucks.
if you really are a pilot, then I have to say your english $ucks.
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Dear Sir,
I suggest you drop by the offices of Clark so you'll get firsthand information. It might not be as bad or as good as you think re progress of MPL cadets.
Have a great day !!
Thunderbolt49
Dear Sir,
I suggest you drop by the offices of Clark so you'll get firsthand information. It might not be as bad or as good as you think re progress of MPL cadets.
Have a great day !!
Thunderbolt49