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UPDATE
15 Non-aligned cadets (including myself) have completed the base training (12 take off and landings) with Cyprus Air in Larnaca (LCLK) over the past few weeks. CAAP designated checkpilots supervised the base training.
The first 4 cadets who finished their base training have been issued their MPL licenses YESTERDAY (29 Mar 2010).
15 Non-aligned cadets (including myself) have completed the base training (12 take off and landings) with Cyprus Air in Larnaca (LCLK) over the past few weeks. CAAP designated checkpilots supervised the base training.
The first 4 cadets who finished their base training have been issued their MPL licenses YESTERDAY (29 Mar 2010).
Congratulations and all the best for you and your group! 
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Congratulations Thomas, I am one of the MPL cadets in the sister academy...Alpha Aviation Academy (UAE), I'm really happy to hear the good news.
Good luck with your Aviation Career...bytheway, I'll start the Core flying at Clark...& hopefully the same route that you went through, but then back to the UAE...did you hear about a kind of line training done here in the UAE for you guys?
Good luck with your Aviation Career...bytheway, I'll start the Core flying at Clark...& hopefully the same route that you went through, but then back to the UAE...did you hear about a kind of line training done here in the UAE for you guys?
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That would be a shame. I was talking with a Greek friend this week whose brother works for Cyprus. He stated they were impressed by the performance of the Clark MPL’s. It would be a shame if the CAAP is going to punish the program because they lack the talent to develop a proper regulatory program to manage the license.
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CAAP itself is in a turmoil....in the middle of all that some so called "inspector" created a ruckus that the MPL grads do not have an IR rating! so how can they fly A320s!
Poor fellow did not realize that the MPL grads have been flying IFR all the way from their core flying days....and that there is no separate IR rating as such for the MPL issue! The person in CAAP would have realized that if he had ever read the course content of MPL but alas…we are talking about CAAP!
EU blacklisted Philippines not because the airlines are unsafe but because the regulatory authority is manned by unqualified people who have no clue as to what to do.
The Airlines continue to suffer....
CAAP motto: DGs might come and DGs might go...but we go on forever...i.e, doing NOTHING other than creating unwanted trouble !
Poor fellow did not realize that the MPL grads have been flying IFR all the way from their core flying days....and that there is no separate IR rating as such for the MPL issue! The person in CAAP would have realized that if he had ever read the course content of MPL but alas…we are talking about CAAP!
EU blacklisted Philippines not because the airlines are unsafe but because the regulatory authority is manned by unqualified people who have no clue as to what to do.
The Airlines continue to suffer....CAAP motto: DGs might come and DGs might go...but we go on forever...i.e, doing NOTHING other than creating unwanted trouble !
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Just for info:
The CAR states (please note the line in red colour):
Download link:
CAAP - Downloads
In the above page select the link: CIVIL AVIATION REGULATIONS (final/approved)
Opening PDF CAR Part 2e-23Jun08.pdf page 44 states:
(g) Privileges. Subject to compliance with the requirements specified in this Part, the
The CAR states (please note the line in red colour):
Download link:
CAAP - Downloads
In the above page select the link: CIVIL AVIATION REGULATIONS (final/approved)
Opening PDF CAR Part 2e-23Jun08.pdf page 44 states:
(g) Privileges. Subject to compliance with the requirements specified in this Part, the
privileges of the holder of an MPL shall be:
CAR Part 2
Issue 1 2-43 23 June 2008
(1) (i) to exercise all the privileges of the holder of a private pilot license in the
appropriate airplane category provided the requirements have been met;
(ii) to exercise the privileges of the instrument rating in a multi-crew operation;
and
(iii) To act as co-pilot in an airplane required to be operated with a co-pilot.
(2) Before exercising the privileges of the instrument rating in a single pilot operation,
the license holder shall have demonstrated an ability to act as pilot-in-command in
a single pilot operation exercised solely by reference to instruments.
(3) Before exercising the privileges of a commercial pilot license in a single pilot
operation, the license holder shall have:
(i) completed 70 hours, either as pilot-in-command, or made up by not less than
10 hours as pilot-in-command and the necessary additional flight time as pilotin-
command under supervision;
(ii) meet the requirements for the commercial pilot license.
(3) Act as second-in-command/co-pilot in commercial air transportation in airplanes
required to be operated with a co-pilot by the type certificate of the aircraft or the
regulations under which the aircraft will be operated; and
(4) When the holder of an airline transport pilot license in the airplane category has
only previously held a MPL, the privileges of the license shall be limited to multicrew
operations unless the holder has met the requirements established. Any
limitation of privileges shall be endorsed on the license.
appropriate airplane category provided the requirements have been met;
(ii) to exercise the privileges of the instrument rating in a multi-crew operation;
and
(iii) To act as co-pilot in an airplane required to be operated with a co-pilot.
(2) Before exercising the privileges of the instrument rating in a single pilot operation,
the license holder shall have demonstrated an ability to act as pilot-in-command in
a single pilot operation exercised solely by reference to instruments.
(3) Before exercising the privileges of a commercial pilot license in a single pilot
operation, the license holder shall have:
(i) completed 70 hours, either as pilot-in-command, or made up by not less than
10 hours as pilot-in-command and the necessary additional flight time as pilotin-
command under supervision;
(ii) meet the requirements for the commercial pilot license.
(3) Act as second-in-command/co-pilot in commercial air transportation in airplanes
required to be operated with a co-pilot by the type certificate of the aircraft or the
regulations under which the aircraft will be operated; and
(4) When the holder of an airline transport pilot license in the airplane category has
only previously held a MPL, the privileges of the license shall be limited to multicrew
operations unless the holder has met the requirements established. Any
limitation of privileges shall be endorsed on the license.
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Hi guys,
Back in 2007 when I was looking for a good flight school to do flight training in the Philippines and I found a few. I came across MPL CA was offering and found it very interesting. Back then it was a new thing (until now, I think) and thought of going for it. Well, basically because of financing issues I didn't go for any pilot training. Now I'm ready, I've been looking around for good pilot training schools again and I came across this thread about CebuPac's MPL programme with CA. It's good to know there've been successful cadets who've completed their training and finally got their licenses, but now it makes me wonder, if I did join this programme 3 years ago, where would I stand?
I know there are many Filipino pilots here, and I would like to obtain some opinions. I'm looking for a pilot training school again and am hoping to start a career in flying. So far, after reading (at least not all messages) this thread, MPL is not at all an option. Would you say so?
Also, I'm looking for pilot training in the US instead of the Philippines. Is that a good decision? After doing my research, the cost of training in the Philippines is almost the same as training in the US. I'm not undermining training in the Philippines, I'm a Filipino myself, but sometimes, I tend to favor the option of training elsewhere rather than training in the Philippines.
What do you guys think? Can you recommend some schools in the Philippines that I should really consider? Or otherwise, recommend schools in the US?
Your experiences and comments are welcome for those people who are also thinking of starting a career in flying. The foundation of basic pilot knowledge gained where we choose to train is very important so your opinions or comments will help us decided are very much appreciated.
Thank you!
Back in 2007 when I was looking for a good flight school to do flight training in the Philippines and I found a few. I came across MPL CA was offering and found it very interesting. Back then it was a new thing (until now, I think) and thought of going for it. Well, basically because of financing issues I didn't go for any pilot training. Now I'm ready, I've been looking around for good pilot training schools again and I came across this thread about CebuPac's MPL programme with CA. It's good to know there've been successful cadets who've completed their training and finally got their licenses, but now it makes me wonder, if I did join this programme 3 years ago, where would I stand?
I know there are many Filipino pilots here, and I would like to obtain some opinions. I'm looking for a pilot training school again and am hoping to start a career in flying. So far, after reading (at least not all messages) this thread, MPL is not at all an option. Would you say so?
Also, I'm looking for pilot training in the US instead of the Philippines. Is that a good decision? After doing my research, the cost of training in the Philippines is almost the same as training in the US. I'm not undermining training in the Philippines, I'm a Filipino myself, but sometimes, I tend to favor the option of training elsewhere rather than training in the Philippines.
What do you guys think? Can you recommend some schools in the Philippines that I should really consider? Or otherwise, recommend schools in the US?
Your experiences and comments are welcome for those people who are also thinking of starting a career in flying. The foundation of basic pilot knowledge gained where we choose to train is very important so your opinions or comments will help us decided are very much appreciated.
Thank you!
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training here in the phil or in US?
This too is my dilemma. Im a staff nurse working in one of the tertiary hospitals in alabang for more than a year. But I still want to pursue a flying career. Currently, I am waiting for my interview with PAL but due to large volume of applicants, my interview might be next year. I submitted my application last August 2009 with them. What can you suggest? I am thinking of doing flight training in US instead, but I am also considering job availability in the US and here in the Phil after doing training in the US.
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@franztorres21 I really have no idea if being a nurse in the US generates enough income to sustain and finish off an CPL + IR in one year. But i am pretty sure that getting a job in the US is not as as easy as it is being projected! That too working on your own terms of 3 days ON and 4 days OFF...seems too good to be true!
As far as i am concerned i just had a full time job for a few years that paid well. Meanwhile using my salary cert i invested in real estate and took a loan. After 3 years i sold off the property, repaid the loan and still had enough to finance the tution fee. Whatever it is...i suggest you keep the end in mind and slowly start working towards it! and i did not even own a civic...i had a very small...very very small hatchback from suzuki...but most of the days i took pubic transport.
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In other news ...i am glad to hear that my fellow cadets and classmates in 5J have been cleared off this nonsense IR issue by CAAP.
Fly safe mga bords....Ingat!
As far as i am concerned i just had a full time job for a few years that paid well. Meanwhile using my salary cert i invested in real estate and took a loan. After 3 years i sold off the property, repaid the loan and still had enough to finance the tution fee. Whatever it is...i suggest you keep the end in mind and slowly start working towards it! and i did not even own a civic...i had a very small...very very small hatchback from suzuki...but most of the days i took pubic transport.
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In other news ...i am glad to hear that my fellow cadets and classmates in 5J have been cleared off this nonsense IR issue by CAAP.
Fly safe mga bords....Ingat!
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CAAP itself is in a turmoil.... some so called "inspector" created a ruckus that the MPL grads do not have an IR rating! so how can they fly A320s!
Poor fellow did not realize that the MPL grads have been flying IFR all the way from their core flying days....and that there is no separate IR rating as such for the MPL issue! The person in CAAP would have realized that if he had ever read the course content of MPL but alas…we are talking about CAAP!
... the regulatory authority is manned by unqualified people who have no clue as to what to do. ....
5J's knee-jerk reaction was to ground MPL F/Os based on a verbal statement of the CAAP "inspector", nothing written at all, nothing from the DG. I hope that matter has been straightened out by this time (see tvfernandez' CAR quotation).
Le "inspecteur" owns a flying school - sounds like a conflict of interest to me.
My humble opinion, after talking to MPL-involved TREs/TRIs/SFIs these past few months:
The only difference between the MPL pilot and the fresh CPL/IR graduate is 100+ hours of "real" flying, which the MPL fellow spent instead in a jet simulator, getting type-rated and specializing in his chosen aircraft. Give the MPL F/O a few months of A320/B737 high-cycle flying and that "real" flying "edge" will be totally wiped out and surpassed.
Our next batch of pioneers hope to join a middle eastern airline. I am certain they will do well and I wish them all the best in flying. I may opt to be an expat someday - in which case I hope to cross paths with you fellows.
Poor fellow did not realize that the MPL grads have been flying IFR all the way from their core flying days....and that there is no separate IR rating as such for the MPL issue! The person in CAAP would have realized that if he had ever read the course content of MPL but alas…we are talking about CAAP!
... the regulatory authority is manned by unqualified people who have no clue as to what to do. ....
5J's knee-jerk reaction was to ground MPL F/Os based on a verbal statement of the CAAP "inspector", nothing written at all, nothing from the DG. I hope that matter has been straightened out by this time (see tvfernandez' CAR quotation).
Le "inspecteur" owns a flying school - sounds like a conflict of interest to me.
My humble opinion, after talking to MPL-involved TREs/TRIs/SFIs these past few months:
The only difference between the MPL pilot and the fresh CPL/IR graduate is 100+ hours of "real" flying, which the MPL fellow spent instead in a jet simulator, getting type-rated and specializing in his chosen aircraft. Give the MPL F/O a few months of A320/B737 high-cycle flying and that "real" flying "edge" will be totally wiped out and surpassed.
Our next batch of pioneers hope to join a middle eastern airline. I am certain they will do well and I wish them all the best in flying. I may opt to be an expat someday - in which case I hope to cross paths with you fellows.
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rq4globalhawk. What do you mean with this:
"Our next batch of pioneers hope to join a middle eastern airline."?
This sounds like good news but you use the word hope which I interpret as a non-certainty.
In any case, I wish all of them good luck and a quick ingress in the profession they invested so much in.
As I've been saying all along, it is about time CIA comes up with the goods they promised three years ago.
"Our next batch of pioneers hope to join a middle eastern airline."?
This sounds like good news but you use the word hope which I interpret as a non-certainty.
In any case, I wish all of them good luck and a quick ingress in the profession they invested so much in.
As I've been saying all along, it is about time CIA comes up with the goods they promised three years ago.
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rq4globalhawk. What do you mean with this:
"Our next batch of pioneers hope to join a middle eastern airline."?
This sounds like good news but you use the word hope which I interpret as a non-certainty.
"Our next batch of pioneers hope to join a middle eastern airline."?
This sounds like good news but you use the word hope which I interpret as a non-certainty.
We do not know how many MPL pilots the airline intends to hire. The "hope" part is: we hope they hire a good number. The application and the licence conversion process has already started.
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Clark Aviation's PPL-CPL/IR Course
Hello everyone!
I have been browsing this thread for a long time already. It's like the MPL is on the right way already..
Anyway, I would just like to ask if anyone has any update on Clark Aviation's PPL-CPL/IR course offering. Anyone here completed the course or is on the process of completing it?
I had a talk with the marketing of CA and they were able to answer my questions well. I'm just bothered on the payment terms/policies.
Hehe.. What attracts me with CA is their C-172SP.. Wanna fly one soon!
Thanks!
I have been browsing this thread for a long time already. It's like the MPL is on the right way already..
Anyway, I would just like to ask if anyone has any update on Clark Aviation's PPL-CPL/IR course offering. Anyone here completed the course or is on the process of completing it?
I had a talk with the marketing of CA and they were able to answer my questions well. I'm just bothered on the payment terms/policies.
Hehe.. What attracts me with CA is their C-172SP
.. Wanna fly one soon!Thanks!
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yeah good machines, probably the only SPs being used in the Phils for flight training. Just not sure if they will let you use the SPs for the CPL course instead of the 152s bought from Dumaguete. im sure if you wanna fly the 172SPs they will charge u more.
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2 more CA cadets just completed base training with 5J yesterday at Clark. i think it brings up the total to 37 (18 more to go). i believe 27 are already flying with 5J, 3 of which (the first batch), have been released as full-fledged F/O's.