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Dont know what you based your post on balut but atleast i have seen with my eyes that CA has 2 172s flying. They also additionally rent 2 152s from Omni...well sometimes 8842 (C172) also....you just dont see them anymore at Omni field coz they have moved out to the Main!
(Something in my opinion they should have done a long time ago...considering that they fly IFR quite often...well better late than never Its much easier to fly night and IFR from the main + the flt ops facilites are a lot better now!)
Whats not flying is the Alpha...thats why you see CA renting the 152s...as i always have maintained...the Alphas were a mistake...lack of spares/trained technicians/instructors in the Philippines for that model...but otherwise that aircraft was a nice lil plane to fly! (much better than the cessna...stick forces were pretty light)
(Something in my opinion they should have done a long time ago...considering that they fly IFR quite often...well better late than never Its much easier to fly night and IFR from the main + the flt ops facilites are a lot better now!)
Whats not flying is the Alpha...thats why you see CA renting the 152s...as i always have maintained...the Alphas were a mistake...lack of spares/trained technicians/instructors in the Philippines for that model...but otherwise that aircraft was a nice lil plane to fly! (much better than the cessna...stick forces were pretty light)
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Vtango im requesting confirmation on CA's aircraft status. Im not affirming anything yet.
We all know the sad ending of the Alphas, the fotos here say it all. True that CA has moved its operation to the main runway.
But are the 2 cessnas that clark own flying constantly? Ive heard there's a few issues concerning those 2 planes... mechanical and paperwork issues..
We all know the sad ending of the Alphas, the fotos here say it all. True that CA has moved its operation to the main runway.
But are the 2 cessnas that clark own flying constantly? Ive heard there's a few issues concerning those 2 planes... mechanical and paperwork issues..
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Balut..am glad you raised this issue. Am not telling everything is hunky dory with CA aircrafts but having said that i wish to put in writing my observations regarding this!
I am one of the few who has experiences flying both CA and OMNI aircrafts. Take the following 2 scenarios:
CA aircraft (Alpha):
A/C grounded due to inop DG!
OMNI aircraft (C152)
Aircraft dispatched with following instruments INOP:
1. DG
2. Turn Coordinator
3. VOR inop (temperamental works fine on the ground but becomes inop in the air..those who know of this ...know what aircraft reg is am talking about )
-and-
4. Xponder became inop while flying!
As far as i am concerned i dont see anything wrong in flying a VFR flight with an INOP DG....
Both the above flights for VFR sorties...
Personally i dont find anything wrong with dispatching an aircraft with an INOP DG for a VFR flight. I have flown IFR flights with an INOP DG, No big deal.
Again there were instances when we had to return to field twice flying omni aircrafts due to engine vibrations, once due to faulty radio.
So far so good with CA aircrafts! fingers crossed!
I find that dispatch criteria vastly varies from flight school to flight school.
Answering your question....both CA 172s are flying.
I am one of the few who has experiences flying both CA and OMNI aircrafts. Take the following 2 scenarios:
CA aircraft (Alpha):
A/C grounded due to inop DG!
OMNI aircraft (C152)
Aircraft dispatched with following instruments INOP:
1. DG
2. Turn Coordinator
3. VOR inop (temperamental works fine on the ground but becomes inop in the air..those who know of this ...know what aircraft reg is am talking about )
-and-
4. Xponder became inop while flying!
As far as i am concerned i dont see anything wrong in flying a VFR flight with an INOP DG....
Both the above flights for VFR sorties...
Personally i dont find anything wrong with dispatching an aircraft with an INOP DG for a VFR flight. I have flown IFR flights with an INOP DG, No big deal.
Again there were instances when we had to return to field twice flying omni aircrafts due to engine vibrations, once due to faulty radio.
So far so good with CA aircrafts! fingers crossed!
I find that dispatch criteria vastly varies from flight school to flight school.
Answering your question....both CA 172s are flying.
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By the look of things, CIA seems to be doing well and still in business but, coming back to an earlier post, does anyone have any information about the Cyprus thing?
Will it resolve the problems that have plagued CIA for such a long time?
Christmas is around the corner. Give the suffering students the best present they wish (and paid) for:
An useful PILOT'S LICENCE!!!
Will it resolve the problems that have plagued CIA for such a long time?
Christmas is around the corner. Give the suffering students the best present they wish (and paid) for:
An useful PILOT'S LICENCE!!!
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Seems like CA is very busy, there are a few new students at CA, they have enrolled in a PPL CPL course with CA. the part that I dont get is how can CA have ever advertized and accepted new students for a PPL CPL training when they are not certified for such training... and in the month of December..
How can the CAAP ever certify CA to offer PPL CPL training if they cant even resolve there MPL program...
PPL CPL course with 2 barly flying aircraft and rented planes from OMNI.
How can the CAAP ever certify CA to offer PPL CPL training if they cant even resolve there MPL program...
PPL CPL course with 2 barly flying aircraft and rented planes from OMNI.
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new year update, anyone?
have the final cebu pac cadets all finished yet? what about the non cebu? the foreigners? will it ever get sorted out? hope the new GM can finish the job.
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Yes... 2 C152s are now owned by CA. they got ferried last week. heard it was quite a flt all the way from down south! Anyway they look good...of course they are used...no "new" 152s but quite neat inside.
Saw Cebu Pac cadets performing TAGs today. looks like they have finally restarted base checks after their X Mas, new yr breaks...
Heard also some positive news from the non sponsored cadets last week. hoping for the best for them!
Saw Cebu Pac cadets performing TAGs today. looks like they have finally restarted base checks after their X Mas, new yr breaks...
Heard also some positive news from the non sponsored cadets last week. hoping for the best for them!
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Are those planes going to be used for CA cadets? Apparently HOT went to Sharjah (he's back now) to bring the cadets from Alpha's Aviation school their, to fly here!?
And whats happening to CA's first PPL/CPL students that arrived late last year. Does CA have their permit to train PPl/CPL yet!?
Hmmm what the HOT of training is doing their no one knows!!?
Great news VTANGO about the TAGS today. Thanks.
And whats happening to CA's first PPL/CPL students that arrived late last year. Does CA have their permit to train PPl/CPL yet!?
Hmmm what the HOT of training is doing their no one knows!!?
Great news VTANGO about the TAGS today. Thanks.
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sources in the school say indeed they have inducted new cadets who are supposedly taking the CPL ground classes (CA cannot get any more "self-sponsored" MPL cadets), while a simple check with CAAP shows CA is not yet authorized to offer CPL...could be a case of CAAP turning a blind eye on the scenario? however this is still very risky.
if CA is "caught" then even the MPL non-sponsored cadets who are now just waiting for base checks will suffer should the CAAP suspend CA. however if CAAP is in fact tolerating them, then there should be no problem (unless the elections coming up throws some surprises in personnel and policy).
glad to hear the TAGS are being done again. hope everybody gets through! it's been what, 3000 years already??
if CA is "caught" then even the MPL non-sponsored cadets who are now just waiting for base checks will suffer should the CAAP suspend CA. however if CAAP is in fact tolerating them, then there should be no problem (unless the elections coming up throws some surprises in personnel and policy).
glad to hear the TAGS are being done again. hope everybody gets through! it's been what, 3000 years already??
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RP-C1049
Talk on the street is that
RP-C1049 off the end of the runway 02 Omni this morning, only pride damaged. Young lady was flying, possibly some minor damage to aircraft
RP-C1049 off the end of the runway 02 Omni this morning, only pride damaged. Young lady was flying, possibly some minor damage to aircraft
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Nice to know that the oldest bird in OMNI is still flying! Have flown her quite a few times...the most memorable trips being to Pinatubo and solo flights to Vigan via Iba.
Also glad to know that nobody was hurt in this latest incident. Since you say possibly damage is minor to the old bird, we should see her flying again hopefully
However i think it is an omni student involved as no more young ladies in core flying at CA! all the ladies have moved on to the MCC/SIMS or are already flying with 5J.
Also glad to know that nobody was hurt in this latest incident. Since you say possibly damage is minor to the old bird, we should see her flying again hopefully
However i think it is an omni student involved as no more young ladies in core flying at CA! all the ladies have moved on to the MCC/SIMS or are already flying with 5J.
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There are 2 Cessna 152s that was bought by Clark Aviation last month from Aviation Training One International in Dumaguete. Both aircraft has very low time engine and are well maintained (RP-C7013 & 7014) by the previous owner. We hope that Clark Aviation's students and instructors will take care of that aircraft...
But the iconic Cessna 152 Aerobat of the school, with serial no next to William Kershner will be brought back to the US.
But the iconic Cessna 152 Aerobat of the school, with serial no next to William Kershner will be brought back to the US.
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wow, it's been ages since i last posted here.
just saw an old video of my family having a picnic at Canlubang airfield back in the early 80's, i saw RP-C1049 painted white and red (with PAL Aero Club on its tail fin) doing TAGs with PAL's flight engineers back in the day when they needed basic flight training. how ironic that i used to see that aircraft everyday at OMNI without knowing i had seen that same plane over 20 years ago when i was a kid.
anyway, no news yet on the latest batch of MPL cadets due for A320 TAGs. so far, i believe it's 31(?) out of 55 MPL cadets of CA already with 5J. four more are in the bubble. the next group after them includes myself.
safe flight, guys.
just saw an old video of my family having a picnic at Canlubang airfield back in the early 80's, i saw RP-C1049 painted white and red (with PAL Aero Club on its tail fin) doing TAGs with PAL's flight engineers back in the day when they needed basic flight training. how ironic that i used to see that aircraft everyday at OMNI without knowing i had seen that same plane over 20 years ago when i was a kid.
anyway, no news yet on the latest batch of MPL cadets due for A320 TAGs. so far, i believe it's 31(?) out of 55 MPL cadets of CA already with 5J. four more are in the bubble. the next group after them includes myself.
safe flight, guys.
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UPDATE
Hello All...
Breaking my silence after a long time.
This thread has become very quiet in the recent past and i find that quite confusing! The past 1 month has been quite hectic and very productive!
15 Non-aligned cadets (including myself) have completed the base training (12 take off and landings) with Cyprus Air in Larnaca (LCLK) over the past few weeks. CAAP designated checkpilots supervised the base training.
The fist 4 cadets who finsihed their base training have been issued their MPL licenses YESTERDAY (29 Mar 2010).
So here we have the first 4 non-aligned MPL cadets earning their licenses.
The remaining cadets who finished their base training are in the various stages of processing their licenses.
It has been a tough time for all of us (cadets and school) to get through with the various stages of this MPL programme but the point is that the programme pushed forward. (despite all the nay sayers and the people who hoped the programme would fail).
A BIG thanks to all the instructors and the people of all depts who tirelessly worked behind the scenes to make MPL a reality! It truly is a dream come true after certain people in the past nearly killed the dream and drove the programme to the ground. (the same people who had the audacity to criticize the programme after being connected with the school! Everyone knows whom we are talking about! They and their doomsday predictions!)
Recovery was a painful process but truly rewarding in the end!
Cheers,
Thomas.
Breaking my silence after a long time.
This thread has become very quiet in the recent past and i find that quite confusing! The past 1 month has been quite hectic and very productive!
15 Non-aligned cadets (including myself) have completed the base training (12 take off and landings) with Cyprus Air in Larnaca (LCLK) over the past few weeks. CAAP designated checkpilots supervised the base training.
The fist 4 cadets who finsihed their base training have been issued their MPL licenses YESTERDAY (29 Mar 2010).
So here we have the first 4 non-aligned MPL cadets earning their licenses.
The remaining cadets who finished their base training are in the various stages of processing their licenses.
It has been a tough time for all of us (cadets and school) to get through with the various stages of this MPL programme but the point is that the programme pushed forward. (despite all the nay sayers and the people who hoped the programme would fail).
A BIG thanks to all the instructors and the people of all depts who tirelessly worked behind the scenes to make MPL a reality! It truly is a dream come true after certain people in the past nearly killed the dream and drove the programme to the ground. (the same people who had the audacity to criticize the programme after being connected with the school! Everyone knows whom we are talking about! They and their doomsday predictions!)
Recovery was a painful process but truly rewarding in the end!
Cheers,
Thomas.
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