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Got me an interview on SIA Cargo this May 17th.
I asked for a draft of the contract and the conditions on the bank guarantee and training bond to be sent me by e-mail, so I would know, before going, what to expect.
The nice SIA Cargo lady said "Sorry, conditions will only be disclosed on your interview".
I really don't like it
, but I'm going anyway.
Rgds.,
SF
I asked for a draft of the contract and the conditions on the bank guarantee and training bond to be sent me by e-mail, so I would know, before going, what to expect.
The nice SIA Cargo lady said "Sorry, conditions will only be disclosed on your interview".
I really don't like it
, but I'm going anyway.Rgds.,
SF
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Thanks guys
So there are two answers here regarding school fees, I'll go to the source then, but thanks for checking. I must have missed the letter from the CP, is it on the website? (SQ) As far as my "Happiness Graph" that's my own business and I'm OK thanks. We all have different backgrounds and wants/needs etc, and mine will not be the same as anyone elses. Judging from these posts, I am thinking the serious grumbling comes from the FO side and I sympathise...The 550 hrs in a year (quoted above) is a decent avg for an Airline pilot, and if you have a read of the Emirate's posts on the other part of this site, it would seem we actually have some time to breath and do whatever it is we do on the time off we get. No rose colored glasses here, but experienced enough to see that some changes are needed, but might not be high on the list company wise. It's been said already in this thread that any complaining without solutions is met with silence...
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Originally Posted by Left Coaster
Hi guys,
Couple of questions about Jack747's post, if I may...I am pretty sure the school fees equal 12 months, can someone comfirm for us? Thx. Regarding the ALPA S and CGO T and C's, where did you get this info? I would like to see some material wrt your statement. No challenge from me here, I am simply curious as to how this might happen? As far as where a crew gets to sit when paxing, I was informed after asking about it that seniority (if it exists) designates where a crewmember might sit. If there is space galore, we all get a good seat (According, of course, to the rules) but when space is tight; expect fare paying pax to get the seat, not you. It's the same almost everywhere. Speaking of everywhere...tax on tix? Get used to it, no airline I can think of will give a "freebie" when they have to pay tax (also see taxable benefits) or have govt implemented surcharges on it themselves. Pass it ALL on to you...ask your buddies at other airlines, I would bet that they have to cough up $$$ as well. Standard practise all over the world. Sorry to have to break it to you here. Hope the rest of the job is OK, it does sound like the place is not too bad, and if a guy was to chill a bit... it might be fun...
C YA
Couple of questions about Jack747's post, if I may...I am pretty sure the school fees equal 12 months, can someone comfirm for us? Thx. Regarding the ALPA S and CGO T and C's, where did you get this info? I would like to see some material wrt your statement. No challenge from me here, I am simply curious as to how this might happen? As far as where a crew gets to sit when paxing, I was informed after asking about it that seniority (if it exists) designates where a crewmember might sit. If there is space galore, we all get a good seat (According, of course, to the rules) but when space is tight; expect fare paying pax to get the seat, not you. It's the same almost everywhere. Speaking of everywhere...tax on tix? Get used to it, no airline I can think of will give a "freebie" when they have to pay tax (also see taxable benefits) or have govt implemented surcharges on it themselves. Pass it ALL on to you...ask your buddies at other airlines, I would bet that they have to cough up $$$ as well. Standard practise all over the world. Sorry to have to break it to you here. Hope the rest of the job is OK, it does sound like the place is not too bad, and if a guy was to chill a bit... it might be fun...
C YA
Ts and Cs; on every meeting with CP or anybody from roastering division, you can hear that. They are working on that subject, but untill we have to fly together with main fleet, we have CA rules.
Paxing; when you read the contract, it is stated that that above 3 hours you have a seat in busines class, that is all. After you join, there is one small addition, `according to the rules....`. The same is with payment for positioning. In general info they state that you will have half of flying allowance. After you join, again , `according to the rules` comes on, and you will be paid only in case positioning is immediately before or after you duty. On long 744 flights it never happens.
Tax on tickets; maybe you are right, but it is my third company, and first where i have to pay tax on my tickets. And pls do not mix airport taxes (what is normal everywhere) with our Personal Income Tax.
Rest of job is ok, but there is so many small things, disadventages, thay at the end it comes to your expences or gains. And what is unacceptable for me, many of this small problems could be easily solved without any expences from the company, just with a good will.
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Originally Posted by serious flyer
Got me an interview on SIA Cargo this May 17th.
I asked for a draft of the contract and the conditions on the bank guarantee and training bond to be sent me by e-mail, so I would know, before going, what to expect.
The nice SIA Cargo lady said "Sorry, conditions will only be disclosed on your interview".
I really don't like it , but I'm going anyway.
Rgds.,
SF
I asked for a draft of the contract and the conditions on the bank guarantee and training bond to be sent me by e-mail, so I would know, before going, what to expect.
The nice SIA Cargo lady said "Sorry, conditions will only be disclosed on your interview".
I really don't like it
, but I'm going anyway.Rgds.,
SF
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Jack747,
Please don't get me wrong.
I'm going to the interview anyway, as I have gone through all the application issues. It does not mean I'm joining SIA Cargo no matter what.
I will get all the details on the contract (paying attention for what you wrote here) and then I will decide if it fits my expectations.
Rgds.,
SF
Please don't get me wrong.
I'm going to the interview anyway, as I have gone through all the application issues. It does not mean I'm joining SIA Cargo no matter what.
I will get all the details on the contract (paying attention for what you wrote here) and then I will decide if it fits my expectations.
Rgds.,
SF
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Jack747,
I did check my contract and it's pretty specific about entitlements when positioning. If I position off line, then you're right 3 hours or more then it's C class. However, when positioning on SQ, it's F or C if there is room.
Can't say as it's ever really been a problem when on SQ, for the most part F or atleast C is always available.
I did check my contract and it's pretty specific about entitlements when positioning. If I position off line, then you're right 3 hours or more then it's C class. However, when positioning on SQ, it's F or C if there is room.
Can't say as it's ever really been a problem when on SQ, for the most part F or atleast C is always available.
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Need real figure.
Hello, guys.
As a beginner of this forum....sorry for interrupting.
In fact, I applied for SIAC DEFO.
I need help from someone who work as a SIA cargo F/O.
I have seen several questions about DEFO's roster and pay. but I also hard to find real reply for it in this forum.
Would, please--. Somebody show me the actual 30 days schedule and hrs?( with average pay will be appreciated ,in view of F/O., )
If you cant reveal on web site, please PM me.
Thank you. again.
As a beginner of this forum....sorry for interrupting.
In fact, I applied for SIAC DEFO.
I need help from someone who work as a SIA cargo F/O.
I have seen several questions about DEFO's roster and pay. but I also hard to find real reply for it in this forum.
Would, please--. Somebody show me the actual 30 days schedule and hrs?( with average pay will be appreciated ,in view of F/O., )
If you cant reveal on web site, please PM me.
Thank you. again.
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Hmm.....
Silence.......Hmmm.........
Well........
I'm not trying to be rude. but......How come anybody ..?????
Please, I don't think all of us on this thread are captain.
would you please......some one help a poor F/O who is hungry on informations?
Well........
I'm not trying to be rude. but......How come anybody ..?????
Please, I don't think all of us on this thread are captain.
would you please......some one help a poor F/O who is hungry on informations?
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FO WITH SQ CARGO
i am a captain with this outfit.
however since there is a silence to the request from what the expat FO have been saying in the flight deck, they fly around 50 hrs a month and PAX 30-40hrs more.
NO CHANCE FOR COMMAND.
however since there is a silence to the request from what the expat FO have been saying in the flight deck, they fly around 50 hrs a month and PAX 30-40hrs more.
NO CHANCE FOR COMMAND.
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Originally Posted by CARGOJOCK
i am a captain with this outfit.
however since there is a silence to the request from what the expat FO have been saying in the flight deck, they fly around 50 hrs a month and PAX 30-40hrs more.
NO CHANCE FOR COMMAND.
however since there is a silence to the request from what the expat FO have been saying in the flight deck, they fly around 50 hrs a month and PAX 30-40hrs more.
NO CHANCE FOR COMMAND.
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Hi all, I just passed the SIAC interviews (11th May) and expect my contract papers, etc., to come thru.....err.... in a few weeks(?) I guess! I just need a few bits of useful info to help plan my move to SIN in a few months, vis:
1) Whats the score on taking some valuable bits of personal effetcs with you?
2) How about a classic car (40 yrs old Merc), considering their very stringent motoring regs??!
3) Is there ANY chance at all for a possible move to SIA at some point??
More Q's to come soon, look out!!!
Cheers for now, folks! 
1) Whats the score on taking some valuable bits of personal effetcs with you?
2) How about a classic car (40 yrs old Merc), considering their very stringent motoring regs??!
3) Is there ANY chance at all for a possible move to SIA at some point??
More Q's to come soon, look out!!!
Cheers for now, folks!
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Originally Posted by aceairman
Hi all, I just passed the SIAC interviews (11th May) and expect my contract papers, etc., to come thru.....err.... in a few weeks(?) I guess! I just need a few bits of useful info to help plan my move to SIN in a few months, vis:
1) Whats the score on taking some valuable bits of personal effetcs with you?
2) How about a classic car (40 yrs old Merc), considering their very stringent motoring regs??!
3) Is there ANY chance at all for a possible move to SIA at some point??
More Q's to come soon, look out!!!
Cheers for now, folks!
1) Whats the score on taking some valuable bits of personal effetcs with you?
2) How about a classic car (40 yrs old Merc), considering their very stringent motoring regs??!
3) Is there ANY chance at all for a possible move to SIA at some point??
More Q's to come soon, look out!!!
Cheers for now, folks!
Hi aceairman,
WRT to your queries, for Q2, you can't drive any car that is registered >20 yrs ago, but as for a classic merc, you have to apply for a vintage car licence and that includes a expensive road tax plus other restrictions.
Q3, i don't think it will happen as long as there is a shortage of crew on the cargo fleet. There are rumours that they are going to second SIA 747 crew to supplement the cargo ops.
cheers
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JADE X SIA CARGO
HI Folks!
Where to go? JADE INTERNATIONAL Or SIA CARGO with the bond?
PM me please!
I have upcoming interviews!
Where to go? JADE INTERNATIONAL Or SIA CARGO with the bond?
PM me please!
I have upcoming interviews!
Originally Posted by Merlinrabbi
Hi aceairman,
WRT to your queries, for Q2, you can't drive any car that is registered >20 yrs ago, but as for a classic merc, you have to apply for a vintage car licence and that includes a expensive road tax plus other restrictions.
Q3, i don't think it will happen as long as there is a shortage of crew on the cargo fleet. There are rumours that they are going to second SIA 747 crew to supplement the cargo ops.
cheers
WRT to your queries, for Q2, you can't drive any car that is registered >20 yrs ago, but as for a classic merc, you have to apply for a vintage car licence and that includes a expensive road tax plus other restrictions.
Q3, i don't think it will happen as long as there is a shortage of crew on the cargo fleet. There are rumours that they are going to second SIA 747 crew to supplement the cargo ops.
cheers
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Originally Posted by aceairman
2) How about a classic car (40 yrs old Merc), considering their very stringent motoring regs??!
For more info, see:
http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matte...es_classic.htm
In exchange for a reasonable road tax of $280 a year you get to use it only 28 days a year.
If you want to use it more than 28 days a year, then you just have to register it as a regular car, with no restrictions on daily use, and the road tax would come to at least $3000 a year. This is on top of painful ad-volarem taxes you would have to pay, whether as a classic car or a daily driver.
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SQ Cargo interview
I have been invited for an interview with SQ Cargo in July. I have read the recent postings and would be interested in hearing from anyone on the pros and cons of the job. I will coming aboard as non-rated Capt. off the 747-300
so the bond is a big issue. All thoughts welcome
so the bond is a big issue. All thoughts welcome
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Its very difficult to advise anyone as all our personal circumstances are different, but I will try to answer as best I can.
I joined last Aug as non type rated DEC and am very happy.
Pros:
New aircraft
Good routes
Great set of people to work with and for.
Decent salary and fairly low Income Tax.
Great place to live; clean, low crime rate and not too expensive.
Profit share
Cons:
Fair amount of (unpaid) duty positioning, can be in Economy.
Staff Travel. Only ID75. Full fare thru Travel agent is cheaper and you get a confirmed seat.
Leave entitlement - only 32 days a year
Bond. 56K Sin$ to put up yourself and total bond Sin$ 142K.
Difficult/Expensive to commute
Overall:
It suits my personal circumstances and, professionally, I am very happy. If I needed to commute to UK/USA/AUS on a monthly basis I think it could get a bit tiring/stressful.
At the moment we get some decent time off between patterns. That may change.
Hope that helps.
I joined last Aug as non type rated DEC and am very happy.
Pros:
New aircraft
Good routes
Great set of people to work with and for.
Decent salary and fairly low Income Tax.
Great place to live; clean, low crime rate and not too expensive.
Profit share
Cons:
Fair amount of (unpaid) duty positioning, can be in Economy.
Staff Travel. Only ID75. Full fare thru Travel agent is cheaper and you get a confirmed seat.
Leave entitlement - only 32 days a year
Bond. 56K Sin$ to put up yourself and total bond Sin$ 142K.
Difficult/Expensive to commute
Overall:
It suits my personal circumstances and, professionally, I am very happy. If I needed to commute to UK/USA/AUS on a monthly basis I think it could get a bit tiring/stressful.
At the moment we get some decent time off between patterns. That may change.
Hope that helps.
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I did the job interview this week and everything was all right.
The people on SIA were very much friendly, no tricks or hidden cards.
One thing that was stressed on the interview was the positioning being like 40to 50 hours a month. They said it could often happen and that they don't want anyone complaining about it after agreeing to join knowing about it.
Regards,
SF
The people on SIA were very much friendly, no tricks or hidden cards.
One thing that was stressed on the interview was the positioning being like 40to 50 hours a month. They said it could often happen and that they don't want anyone complaining about it after agreeing to join knowing about it.
Regards,
SF
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Hello guys...just did the interview at SIA Cargo.....I think everything went very well. Very decent bunch of guys/gals. Everything went exactly according to plan.....no "special" surprises at the interview. Just a talk about the airline....and outfit as a whole. Very freindly dudes.....I talked with..."Chief"one from Cargo and "chief"one from mainline 744. They where honest about the roster/hours/flying/out of base.
I donīt know why some on this forum have been surprised about thier conditions.....they told me at the -view, that you will fly about 50 hours
pr. month and pax alot.......................
As for command...I was informed, that it IS possible...you just have to get
on to the "local" contract...do 5 years......get assessed...upgrade. Again very honest stuff.
A very freindly captain from mainline took us through the simulator...again
no big surprises....777 flying..turns, steep turns, ILS, go around, eng-cut, single engine visual to ILS....I must say that triple-7 flies well!!!!
Please have ALL paperwork in order when arriving. This is important.
Compared with my present employer/situation, SIA Cargo seems like a very decent place....even for an FO-starter like myself. I was positively
surprised. Ofcourse....I have NOT been in the system yet.......but as far
as I can judge, SIA CARGO were honest and gave alot of information.
I have been a "low-coster" for 5 years...I am ready to switch!!!!!!
I donīt know why some on this forum have been surprised about thier conditions.....they told me at the -view, that you will fly about 50 hours
pr. month and pax alot.......................
As for command...I was informed, that it IS possible...you just have to get
on to the "local" contract...do 5 years......get assessed...upgrade. Again very honest stuff.
A very freindly captain from mainline took us through the simulator...again
no big surprises....777 flying..turns, steep turns, ILS, go around, eng-cut, single engine visual to ILS....I must say that triple-7 flies well!!!!
Please have ALL paperwork in order when arriving. This is important.
Compared with my present employer/situation, SIA Cargo seems like a very decent place....even for an FO-starter like myself. I was positively
surprised. Ofcourse....I have NOT been in the system yet.......but as far
as I can judge, SIA CARGO were honest and gave alot of information.
I have been a "low-coster" for 5 years...I am ready to switch!!!!!!