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daac 4th Jan 2012 11:03

Riccardowannabe

Just asking nothing in special. I applied couple of months ago but I'm still waiting.

GTC58 4th Jan 2012 17:19

Reality Check:

Official CX international cadet program numbers for 2011

16600 applications
282 hired

daac 4th Jan 2012 17:23

GTC58

Where did you get these numbers ?

GTC58 4th Jan 2012 17:31

CX pilot newsletter

Cessna414CC 4th Jan 2012 20:46

GTC58
 
Was there anything else in regard to recruitment / hiring of any noteworthiness in the pilot newsletter besides numbers? Thank you

GTC58 4th Jan 2012 22:44

no, nothing else in regards of recruitment

BerksFlyer 4th Jan 2012 23:23

AIMINGHIGH123,

That is an interesting link.

With the cost of living, some of it will depend on your shopping habits. If you shop in the 'gwai lo' places then your expenses will be greater than they will have been in London buying equivalent things. There are cultural differences that can affect cost of products. For example there isn't the same binge drinking culture as there is in the uk (exceptions exist obviously) and locals will generally only expect to buy 1/2 drinks on a night out because they are £6/£7 each. Additionally, If you eat as a local eats then it will be far cheaper than eating the usual western foods. So of course if you were to live in HK and expect to live as you do in the uk/similar you may find your lifestyle too expensive to maintain on the current terms on offer.

I'd be interested to know the habits of the average SO on the current terms. That is not a criticism, I am not suggesting that many posting negatives on here are whingeing unnecessarily - I am just curious.

blade 5th Jan 2012 01:53

City apartment 100% more expensive!!!!

with housing normally being the most expensive item on ones shopping list

daac 5th Jan 2012 04:44

Bad news
 
So I spoke with CX flight crew recluitment today and they said; starting this month all non Hong Kong residents applying for the cadet program with zero flight time will now need to have at least 250 hours TT and CPL

Stallone 5th Jan 2012 04:59

:cool::cool:

"zero flight time but with at least 250 hours TT and CPL"

:suspect::suspect:

daac 5th Jan 2012 05:05

Basically there were no requirements for the cadet pilot program before, but now if you are non HK resident you need to have 250 TT and CPL

NEIN 5th Jan 2012 05:07

blade
 
The expense of the housing is hardly compensated by the cheap daily expense..
As a Hong Kong citizen, I would say dwelling in Hong Kong is really hard...:bored:

Jim-J 5th Jan 2012 07:56

50.40.30.20.10
 
A copy of your Class 1 medical certificate is required.
If you pass the initial stages then CX conduct their own medical on the applicant. How rigorous this medical is I do not know....? I assume it's of the usual Class1 standard

desi_boy 5th Jan 2012 09:17

daac
 
hey ! Daac

u mind sharing the number u r using to contact CX hr ?:ok:

flyber 5th Jan 2012 10:54

Stage 1 results
 
For those who did stage 1 in south africa and also in hong kong early december,any feedback so far?

blade 5th Jan 2012 13:06

Nein,

Thats exactly my point...lucky i bought 12 years ago,then 8 years ago during Sars, then again in the 2008 meltdown...

Luckily I had a proper housing allowance or I would have been screwed...for life

Cessna414CC 5th Jan 2012 18:03

daac
 
Did you get the impression that this change applies to applicants who already applied, or just brand-new applicants? Thanks

captain.weird 5th Jan 2012 19:42

Cessna414CC
 

Did you get the impression that this change applies to applicants who already applied, or just brand-new applicants? Thanks
daac said this:

So I spoke with CX flight crew recluitment today and they said; starting this month all non Hong Kong residents applying for the cadet program with zero flight time will now need to have at least 250 hours TT and CPL
It is starting this month. So I think that if you are a zero hour applicant and you applied before 1 januari you will be considered. Maybe daac can confirm this.

BTW, there is nothing new at the website??

daac 5th Jan 2012 22:12

Yes I think it applies to everybody . In my case I submitted my application last year, I have around 200 Hrs. TT and private license. So the lady from the flight crew recruitment (Rachel) told me that management has decided to change minimums for non HK applicants. And once I have 250 Hrs. and CPL i can call back to update the my application and be eligible for the Cadet program.

For all HK residents still the same thing, no flight experience required.

robair08 and desi_boy

This is the number 852 2747 8261. After the 5th try the call finally went through. I guess is difficult to call HK from the USA. Anyways if you guys get any valuable information please let us know.

Thanks

whackthemole 6th Jan 2012 03:32


all non Hong Kong residents applying for the cadet program with zero flight time will now need to have at least 250 hours TT and CPL
The HK government won't issue work permits to anyone with less than that. Recruitment already got burnt once by that and won't make that mistake again. 250h of sightseeing in a C152 and a complete lack of self-respect makes you skilled labor apparently.

desi_boy 6th Jan 2012 08:13

Change in requirements for Non-HK candidates
 
jus got an email from the recruitment staff ,

"Please refer to the information on our official website."

But the the website dosnt show any change .


Keep your fingers crossed . I hope it remains Zero Hours .:mad:

concord84 6th Jan 2012 09:57

stage 2 interview.
 
Anyone who passed stage one in London and got selected for stage 2 in HKG could contact me so we can share a few infos regarding stage2?
All the best for everyone.
C84

schweizer2 6th Jan 2012 11:47

just got my rejection e-mail from 30th december stage 1 :ugh:

FL999 6th Jan 2012 14:25

So basically just add a loan to the already crappy deal. Great.:ugh:

schweizer2 6th Jan 2012 15:03

anyone know what the record interviews failed prior to being accepted on the course?

although I've failed a few times im no where near ready to accept defeat!

got to love and hate aviation!

flyber 6th Jan 2012 16:15

Stage 2
 
Also got my stage 2 invite today.I did my stage 1 in South Africa early Dec.Anybody else from jo'burg who got a nod for stage 2?

Vpilot53 8th Jan 2012 02:13

Stage 2 Advanced Interview
 
Hey guys just wanted to get some information on the maths test if anyone has done it. A few of my Friends that are now on the TT program had a maths test of 30min. I am being interview for stage 2 Advanced Course and my program indicates a 60min maths test has anyone done the 60min maths test is it a longer test of have they just given you longer to do it

Thanks for your help in advance

Vpilot53 8th Jan 2012 02:14

Stage 2 Interview Advanced Program
 
Hey guys just wanted to get some information on the maths test if anyone has done it. A few of my Friends that are now on the TT program had a maths test of 30min. I am being interview for stage 2 Advanced Course and my program indicates a 60min maths test has anyone done the 60min maths test is it a longer test of have they just given you longer to do it

Thanks for your help in advance

rodrigues 8th Jan 2012 03:39

Submitted my application 2 months ago. I have a CPL with 223 hours TT, would that literally leave me 27 hours short and therefor ineligible?

Em773ER 8th Jan 2012 08:28

serious SJS kicking in
 
Hi everyone,

I have just been offered the 30 week course in adelaide. I applied early 2010 and been doing stage 1,2,3 and 4 the past few months but kept quite about it. Since i applied (i had only started my PPL navs), but now I have a CPL MECIR and 3 subjects short of a fATPL. At the start when I applied I was very keen on the cpp, but over time i grew agaisnt it as i saw the bigger picture; however now that i have been offered, its actually not as easy to say no. I originally went for the interviews for "interview experience" and to prove to myself i could get into CX. Well i made it but i'm stuck between what i've learnt over the past couple of years or what i was told by recruitment, plus i have a few mates who are SOs from the cpp and they are "living comfortably". I haven't accepted yet but thinking about it, i am only 21 and by 30 i could maybe have hope to fly back home in australia. Thoughts anyone?

Thanks in advance!

blade 8th Jan 2012 10:45

773,,,what are your other options

Em773ER 9th Jan 2012 09:22

blade
 
hi there, i am currently in the middle of an interview process for a turbo prob job. considering that as a more practical choice...

emaler.x 10th Jan 2012 01:16

Hi everyone,
I've become very interested in the CX cadet program although I am starting from the very beginning, i.e. no flying experience etc.
Before diving into research and studying I wanted find out more research about the requirements, such as the education requirements and what the chances of a beginner of my age would be to be taken seriously. I've read on the CX website and searched more online however it generally just lists it in terms of HK schooling.

If anyone has any more information they could provide me with I'd greatly appreciate it, thanks!

sidhu86 10th Jan 2012 01:42


Hi everyone,

I have just been offered the 30 week course in adelaide. I applied early 2010 and been doing stage 1,2,3 and 4 the past few months but kept quite about it. Since i applied (i had only started my PPL navs), but now I have a CPL MECIR and 3 subjects short of a fATPL. At the start when I applied I was very keen on the cpp, but over time i grew agaisnt it as i saw the bigger picture; however now that i have been offered, its actually not as easy to say no. I originally went for the interviews for "interview experience" and to prove to myself i could get into CX. Well i made it but i'm stuck between what i've learnt over the past couple of years or what i was told by recruitment, plus i have a few mates who are SOs from the cpp and they are "living comfortably". I haven't accepted yet but thinking about it, i am only 21 and by 30 i could maybe have hope to fly back home in australia. Thoughts anyone?

Thanks in advance!
EM773 --

The way I look at it dude - you're 21, young, ambitious and can jump any hurdle at this age. If you're given the opportunity to explore the world in wide body aircraft at such a young age. DO IT. Yes, it will be tough, yes its gonna be a hard struggle with money. But you can do it. And at the end of the day its going to be worth it. From the looks of the previous threads, looks about 5-6 years upgrade to JFO? 25-27 is an awesome age, I'm 25, if I had that opportunity when I was 21, I would have been all over it. Now I'm looking for regionals. Think hard about it, if you're going in to it with open eyes, and an open outlook - I guarantee you will LOVE it.

Best of luck to you man! Keep us posted!

ChinaBeached 11th Jan 2012 06:34

Sidhu..... And there's your flawed logic. In your eyes it's all about "seeing the world in a shiny (widebody) jet". What of future financial job security? What of a future wife & family? What of the capacity to buy & own a property? What of placing a potential 44 year career with a company that tears up legally binding contracts at will?

EM773 is one of the VERY few who has actually shown maturity to see both sides of the arguement. Empty & wishful thinking like you're offering is at best a romanticised view of being a "Jet Pilot Dude" and misleading if not so very way off the mark of the real nature of the iCadet job & the real nature of the company enslaving you for well over just the 6 year bonded period.

Oh, and from the latest AOA update, KA are offering double the CX iCadet housing for their cadets. 100% owned by CX. Discrimination?? And your "free" training is deemed as an asset hence taxable as well as CX enforcing repayment upon failure of the course if that unfortunately happens. Lovely this great "opportunity" isn't it!!??

Best have your opinions from the real world if you wish to offer credible & accurate advice.

Harbour Dweller 11th Jan 2012 06:57


CX enforcing repayment upon failure of the course if that unfortunately happens.
Yes, that's a new one. A nice little surprise for the unfortunate.

A serious case of beware the fine print.

Jamesandpie 11th Jan 2012 11:06

change of hours
 
Can anyone else confirm that they have upped the minimum number of hours to 250 hrs for international applicants to the cadet scheme? I'm sure there are several people who have applied in the second half of 2011 with less than 250hrs and are still waiting to hear back for stage 1.

Surely they can't change the 0 hours to 250 hours overnight and make it apply to everyone who has applied previously? After all, you still get trialled for murder on the laws of 20 years ago if that's when it was committed!

I've tried giving HR a call but can't seem to contact anyone, so if anyone has some confirmation that would be great.

SloppyJoe 11th Jan 2012 11:36

They have offered people jobs before after they passed all the stages, medical, sim etc only to be kept waiting for over a year before being told you can still join on less than half the package we were offering before.

They have hired guys on the old expat package on the condition they instruct in Australia on the cadet courses for 3 (I think) years maybe longer before joining as an SO with full housing etc. Contracts were signed and it was a done deal. A year or so afterward they were told sorry but we lied and you are now on the cadet contract when you come to HKG.

You really think CX will honor a lesser requirement to those who have applied but not even had an interview?

Sorry but if this rumor is true it will apply to you.

whackthemole 11th Jan 2012 12:23


Surely they can't change the 0 hours to 250 hours overnight and make it apply to everyone who has applied previously?
Sonny, you really have no idea who you're dealing with here. It's as close as you'll ever get to making a deal with the devil.

SMOC 11th Jan 2012 12:49

Forget using your forgiveable loan to purchase property, the HK mortgage corporation has just deemed the 'loan' as a liability so forget trying to get a home loan from a bank.

CX makes the rules up as they go along and will change them when and where they see fit. Occasionally the law in a foreign country catches them out but HK never will.


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