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Krashman 14th Dec 2011 07:04

Math test
 
I wouldn't worry too much about the math test... basic math for the first half and the second half is situational based questions.

You probably won't be able to get through the whole thing... well unless you Rainman. Just answer the ones you know. I didn't finish and I got the offered the job.

Good luck

brisdude 14th Dec 2011 13:54

25k a month!

Have fun mate, do proper research.

13k max.

brisdude 14th Dec 2011 13:56

BTW - Don't put "once I am an FO" into your budget.

Spend some time in HK - just for a week or so and you will find your budget is as solid as playdo.

mtc 15th Dec 2011 02:11

Just be familiar with the one in sixty rule. The test even states "hint - use 1 in 60 rule". I won't explain it here just go look it up. You can finish it if you know your stuff. Like I said, I did. Barely. But it is possible.

Harlok 15th Dec 2011 03:31

@mtc and krashman - thanks heaps again for the inputs. So Ill try not to panic if i cant finish everything and Ill try to arrive prepared to answer some practical navigation/aviation math questions... im already in panic.. ugh... :eek:

Jwight11 21st Dec 2011 01:38

Interview Cities
 
Is there a published list in which Cathay Pacific recruiters visit to conduct interviews? I know they were NYC back in AUG. Does anyone know when they will come back?

diamond1 21st Dec 2011 15:25

Is the maths test for people with a frozen ATPL or just newbies?

daac 22nd Dec 2011 20:17

Hey Jwight11, Im from NYC too ;) . I have not heard anything yet if they are coming here or not. When did you apply ?

herrtob 26th Dec 2011 07:59

@diamond1
 
math test is simple maths for the first half and then 1in60 and then some. not a killer

schweizer2 30th Dec 2011 12:09

Just done stage 1 today.

There were 3 of us involved this morning and the process was very straight forward. Mood felt a bit relaxed in the office, most likely due to staff being away on holidays etc.

From the 3 candidates there, I was the only one who was not on the first attempt.

When we were all there, someone came and spoke to us about how the process would go and took all our copies of resume, high school results etc.

I started the day with the 45 minutes interview, all done on personality and about me, no technical questions asked. It felt more of a casual yet formal conversation to get to know me. Non of the questions involved the history of CX, fleet, profit or anything, all questions were about me.

After the interview I was given a 5 minute break where I would then proceed and do the JKI test, very straight forward as long as you know whats in the booklet they send in advance. As stated on the cover of the booklet, it is up to the candidate to dig for more detail. Had a few questions about pressure instruments, forces acting in flight, engines and about the company itself.

When I was done with the JKI test, I handed in my results in the office and was asked if I wanted more then a 5 minute break befor starting the next test, reasoning test.

For the reasoning test, its quite simple if you are good and finding solutions to patterns, no other way to prepare other then just do Raven's progressive Matrices (APM) as that is the exact booklet they give.
The first part of this test involved 12 questions to be done in a short amount of time, no stress as it is very straight forward patterns.
Same process for the 2nd test, this time 30 questions and much harder, given more then enough time and if you have done some work on Raven's test it should be rather straight forward with the occasional tricky one.

Once this was completed I was offered yet another break so I could have a glass of water and use the toilets if needed.

Last thing to do was the personality test, cant prepare for this, just be absolutely honest. It is computer based, not given a great deal of time but more then enough to complete the task which is mainly just putting in order from best to worst which best describes me.

I was instructed that I was free to leave as soon as I finished the test on the computer.

We were told in the e-mail inviting us that Stage 1 would be held between 9:00 and 14:30, all 3 of us left the building befor 1 pm.

I felt that the staff in the office were very friendly and willing to help us with any questions that we had. Everything was very clear and each test/process was explained very well. We were encouraged to ask any questions if necessary.

Sorry if it all feels like the sentences are long winded, I have had a long day and I am quite tired, I just felt I should write my experience for people to read whilst it was still fresh in my mind.

Will let people know when I receive either a phone call to invite me for Stage 2 :ok: or the dreadful e-mail of rejection.:ugh:

Have a good night all.

captain.weird 30th Dec 2011 12:35

Are you for the:

Long Course 61 weeks
Medium Course 30 weeks
Transition Course 12 weeks

It is very weird that you didn't got technical questions during the interview.. Was this at all of the aspirant cadets?

How did you prepare for the technical questions? Only the JKI?

??

Thanks for sharing your stage 1. Success with what will come forward!!

liugorgor 30th Dec 2011 12:44

schweizer2:

I reckon thats a bit weird that u didnt get any tech questions! not even things about CX? :rolleyes:

Do you have any flying/aviation background?

liugorgor 30th Dec 2011 12:50

BTW schweizer2

Just for your 2nd interview.

Here is the CX fleet and engines break down:

A340-300 CFM56-5C
A330-300 RR Trent 772
B777-200 RR Trent 877
B777-300 RR Trent 892
B777-300ER GE90-115B
B747-400/B747-400F/B747-400BCF RB211-524/P&W4056
B747-8F GEnx2B67
B747-400ERF P&W 4062

Hope it will help for your 2nd stage of interview :)

I am still waiting for my 1st interview in Sydney :(

liugorgor 30th Dec 2011 12:52

Hi all

Just wondering anyone have CX 2012 international interview schedule?http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/...n_rolleyes.gif

Appreciate all the shares!

schweizer2 30th Dec 2011 13:12

hey guys,

I have actually done a lot of studying for the technical questions, did lots of research on CX aircrafts, the history, destinations etc I used a lot more then just the JKI for technical stuff. JKI booklet is definately no where near enough for a technical interview, especially if your asked to go in more details.

This was for the full 61 week course, I do hold a CPL but dont meet the hour requirements for the shorter courses.

I was asked about the technical questions that I received in my previous attempt but was not asked to answer any of them.

This could have simply been that there was no pilots available at the time of the interview, perhaps if I am invited to Stage 2 they will focus a lot on the technical side. I still highly recommend people who have a Stage 1 in the future to study technical stuff aswell, never know what will be asked in the interview. Better to be prepared then not!

Thanks for the engine info Luigorgor, had that all covered but overlooked the 747-8F!

They did ask me what fleet I could be placed on when I finish the course. Then asked me how long the 3 different courses were but that is all.

Also as far as im concerned, the other 2 candidates had a similar interview to mine, no technical questions.

Please dont take this as a "guess there is no tech questions in stage 1" It all depends on who gives the interview, so study hard!

Feel free to ask any more questions.

daac 30th Dec 2011 23:56

Hi Schweizers2,

Congratulations!! I hope you get a call for the second interview. How long did you have to wait until they called you?

schweizer2 31st Dec 2011 01:16

not very long, couple weeks. although it really depends on location you put etc... last time I applied I waited a very long time.

daac 31st Dec 2011 02:08

That's good. I applied on Jun of this year and I still waiting for a response :ugh:

daac 31st Dec 2011 02:10

I called them a couple of times already and they said that I have to wait for the next interviews.

schweizer2 31st Dec 2011 02:24

what was your 1st location choices for the interview? If you've put USA then it all depends on when they head out that way for interviews.

daac 31st Dec 2011 02:32

Yes that was my mistake, I putted USA then HK and UK, but when I called I told them that I was willing to travel anywhere. Hopefully they will call me soon.
How is the life in HK ?

schweizer2 31st Dec 2011 02:42

It really depends what sort of lifestyle you like.

I grew up in HK and had the opportunity to live in different countries over the last few years and I know HK is where I want to live and have my career out of.

I suggest you put some research into life in HK... for example the price of renting property here etc. I am sure they will ask non HK candidates quite a bit about Hong Kong.

daac 31st Dec 2011 04:54

Thanks for the advise i will start looking at some info. As far as i know HK is a good place to live, except for the rent. But that's not a problem you know for the passion we go anywhere ;)

desi_boy 31st Dec 2011 11:28

JKI booklet
 
Hi guys ,

Seems like cx is not really interested in hiring from india ... suriprisingly ... they didnt conduct any interviews in india in 2011 . But there wages are fine for us ( obviously not fine for europeans and americans ) ... Any comments ??

liugorgor 1st Jan 2012 02:09

desi_boy

I suggested you read the whole 183 pages of this post to see whats the Cadet programme about or some basic aviation book such as BAK will be more helpful than that JKI booklet for you at this point.

Cheers

lipoho 1st Jan 2012 21:08

Can anyone email me the JKI booklet & any other material please?

my email is [email protected]

CX-A330 2nd Jan 2012 00:04

greetings friends happy new year. is anybody have flight grading mid january? if you also have flight grading let me know or pm me so we can prepare together.

CX-A330

Vpilot53 2nd Jan 2012 02:55

Stage 2 Interview Advance Course
 
Can anyone please advise me on the Stage 2 Advance course Maths test types of questions and also duration some people are saying 30mins and some say 60mins.

Anyone going to Hong Kong next week for stage 2 interview?

Riccardowannabe 2nd Jan 2012 11:46

Hello everyone, I've browsed through several pages of this thread but couldn't find what I need...could anyone please tell me all the possible info about this programme, the selection process, living in HK being a CX employee, the benefits and pros and cons? Requirement as well if possible...

I'm currently a cabin crew, and I've been desiring for a long time to become a pilot, but not enough money. With this program all of a sudden it seems a possible dream to achieve, even if I read many complaints from more experienced pilots in this thread about this programme. If anyone got the patience to reply I'll be thankful, thanks a lot, happy new year to everyone!

kelevra 2nd Jan 2012 12:14

Riccardowannabe
 
Out of curiosity, how many pages of this thread have you read from the beginning?

Riccardowannabe 2nd Jan 2012 12:59

Honestly I've read around 20 pages scattered all around...due to my slow internet facility in my accomodation this took me ages, so I found it easier just ask for a reply of somebody kindly willing to answer...if you do not want to waste your time you could have even refrained from post your nice question

schweizer2 2nd Jan 2012 13:00

I would suggest you go back to page 1 and read from the start just like we've all done.

There are some very interesting posts in this thread with lots of information you may want or need... however! there are some posts you may want to just ignore... use your better judgement to filter out the posts you think are irrelevant to cut down on your reading time if you are in a rush...

best of luck... (there are many posts answering your questions)

edit: you've just posted befor me.... I too have quite a slow computer but honestly I would try read as much as you can, once you start reading you'll want to continue..

Riccardowannabe 2nd Jan 2012 13:09

thank you for you answer schweizer2, at least you were nice, I will try to read as much as the connection allow me ;)

schweizer2 2nd Jan 2012 13:16

No worries,
When you have done more research into the Cadet Programme you'll be able to ask more specific questions rather then just "what is the recruitment process" and im sure other candidates aswell as CX employees will be more then happy to help you.

People here do tend to like to help others, they just dont want to have to spoon feed everything...

Best of luck...

kelevra 2nd Jan 2012 14:54

Riccardowannabe
 
No disrespect but I am insulted by your posts. I did not know about your situation and merely just asking a simple question and construct a conversation. I am always willing to help when asked.

Moving on... I suggest when you start reading, look out for the users "holdmetight" and "Em773ER". They're the users with the posts that stuck with me the most and made the most notes from.

Living conditions in HK? Ask away. I don't handle the bills but I have seen them. Pros and Cons? You might not like it but read the posts from people who discourage you from joining the Cadet Programme. You will need to hear both sides.

Riccardowannabe 2nd Jan 2012 22:03

Sorry maybe I just misunderstood your intentions, sorry if I offended you. Thanks for your suggestions, I'll fillter my search according to your advise.
All the best!

daac 3rd Jan 2012 23:12

Riccardowannabe did you apply for the Cadet program ? or not yet ?

ChinaBeached 4th Jan 2012 00:28

You kids talk about "passion" and use the word as an excuse, nothing more. There are only 183 pages here explaining everything you ask. And yet some new "passionate" hopeful will within the next 2-3 pages post the exact same questions asked & answered countless times before.

You kids are willing to put more time into a damn Harry Potter book with more than double the pages that this thread has. Such "passion" when it comes to your career and future. You have the same passion for flying as I do a beer during happy hour. It's there, it's available and most importantly it's cheap and easy.

There are only 183 pages to read. Some you'll like, some you won't but it is ALL information about the job, the city, the salary, the career progression, the cost of rent, pollution, inflation, schooling, raising a family, how to update your application, and, and, and, and.....!!!

This iCadetship represents the lowest standards Cathay has ever sunk to - and you're all desperate to be a part of it because you think it is an "opportunity". What does that tell you? When 99% the experienced pilots turn it down or don't even bother to apply you are what is left to line the pockets via profit share and bonuses for management. They are FACTS and I don't care to sugar coat it for you.

You are not there due to your flying skills, because you don't need any. You are not there for your aviation experience, knowledge or credentials because again, the minimum application requirements state you don't need them either. You are there because you are the cheapest option. Nothing more, nothing less. And you're gullible enough to see it as an "opportunity"!!

As I said on another thread, one day a fellow pilot or airline management will stab you in the back, seek to lower the standards further and undercut your salary, terms & conditions yet you'll have the audacity to feel insulted when this is the culture you seek to "passionately" contribute to.

Riccardowannabe 4th Jan 2012 10:07

Daac not yet, waiting to be able to read all the pages to be more informed. Why, can I help u somehow?

ChinaBeached 4th Jan 2012 10:09

May I ask, what are you a Captain of? How did you earn the title or rank?


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