lucky86, when i did my stage 1 in late 2010, i had pretty much next to 0 hours, the standard of questions were upto to a BAK level.

It would be great if you knew the answers to those questions posted earlier - but they are really more of a CPL/ATPL type question.

Concentrate on getting the basics right first, then move on.

Goodluck.

Hi,

I had my first stage (for ab-initio) last week. Of all candidates, only I was lucky enough to be interviewed by a pilot and an HR. Just got called for the next stage - ICAO english test.

So everyone going through, do expect a pilot for technical questions in the first stage and be prepared!!

Good luck!

just want to get some view on what people do who are on similar boats as me

steady job after graduate

what active steps can you take to fulfilling your dream of becoming a airline pilot? other than splash out 6 or 7k on a ppl

p.s i am saving up for one but just want to see what other people do...

6 - 7k .. what currency are you talking about?

im currently working in uk so sterlings

Just get into mate!

Go to the local flying schools and see what courses etc they have a on offer.

Just pay as you go for each lesson, so you don't have to pay for the whole course upfront (actually alot of people advise against paying upfront), then you don't have to save as much at the start and can get into flying straight away.

Thats the 'only' way to fulfill your dream, is to actually start flying.

yeah i'm thinking of a PPL too, money is not a problem since u can pay as u fly and have a degree with a fairly gd paying job

problem is, after PPL, where do u go from there? Rightfully CPL/MEIR is the next level, but with that, we're talking abt a hundred grand in US$

^ That is expensive for a CPL.

How about getting the PPL first and reassessing from there? Even if you decide not to pursue the CPL after then, atleast you will have a PPL and can go flying whenever you want.

CX CPP Summary
 

G'day Everyone,
I’m usually not one to post; but after reading the 4000 odd posts on this forum, for over the past few weeks I felt inclined to say something. First to people who are considering the programme- read the entire forum. It is well worth the time taken (think of it as an investment if you are serious about applying for a cadetship) - there is a lot of useful information and tips (a lot of crap as well- but hey it’s a forum). The forum covers most things from interview questions, stages, pay, conditions, both pros and cons of the programme, as well as covering CX aircraft, engines etc.

If anyone does have any quick questions IRT (in regards to) the programme feel free to PM myself and I will try to pass on what I know. From what I have read on here and in multiple other books/websites etc the programme can be a good way for a young single person who is willing to live similar to what can only be described as a "uni student" life style. (No such thing as an easy way into any business- the glamour and glory will come later on in life once you has earned it. For now live up the single life.) As an SO it will be what you make of it. Having been in the Army for 5 yrs and having lived in my fair share of s#!t box rooms I can only say- meet some mates get out and enjoy the experience- it's usually how the best stories are made.

The people expecting to walk into a career earning top dollar need to look at all the other trades/professions out there - their all in the same basket- You have to work hard to get to the top. There are many streams into the Aviation business and all of which require sacrifice, commitment and a lot of hard work and persistence- most of all however you need DISCIPLINE. Don’t procrastinate! Get out there and be active- find your local flying school (get involved- even if you can’t afford to fly, talk to people (its free!!)- after all the business is usually its not what you know but who), read the latest aviation magazines/newspapers - find out what’s going on in the world and build that situational awareness, go to air shows make some contacts. Finally I know we all would but please please refrain from trying to pawn your self out and fly for free. It really does bring down the entire monetary value of the aviation business and makes earning a decent wage rather difficult- after all flying commercially both rotary and fixed is a complex skill and rather an elitist group- lets keep it that way and be paid accordingly for our knowledge and skill.

Thanks again for everyone’s valuable comments and wish everyone all the best in their decision.

Stay Golden Pony Boys!

;)

regarding stage one interview technical exam
 

firstly, thank you localcadetflyer for posting the questions, its nice to have a direction in which to study in.

However, im just wondering what the format for the technical exam will be for the first interview? will it be in multiple choice or will it be written.

And if I am an ab-initio candidate, will such knowledge from localcadetflyer's questions be expected?

Thank you for any and all of your help in advance. 1stInterview is on April 20th in HK..getting the jitters..

redrocket,

I mentioned in an earlier post above, when i had my interview back in late 2010, i had next to 0 hours, and the standard of questions the captain asked were upto a BAK (Basic Aeronautical Knowledge) standard. The questions that localcadetflyer posted are more of a CPL/ATPL standard, and whilst it would be good to know them, you really should have a solid understanding of the basics first.

If i was you, i would study upto a BAK level first, then move onto PPL level and so on only once you've had a good understanding of the previous level, as the knowledge builds from the previous knowledge.

Goodluck!

Job Knowledge test format
 

Thanks orangeboy for taking the time to answer my question (especially since you have already answered once =p)

One more thing I am wondering about is in regards to the job knowledge test; will the format be written or will it be multiple choice?

Kenneth PM me!
 

Kenneth PM me!

Job Knowledge Test was multiple choice when i did it and i believe it still is.

Except for the modern day Cathay Pacific!!

hey rahil, just wantd to know how did it go with cathay?

localcadetflyer
 

thank you for your help, ive been reading the PHAK booklet after the JKI one they sent me, hope I have I remember most of it =]

I applied in October, and no reply yet... finger cross i guess

Just got my knock back e-mail, reasonably gutted. Any success stories from the second attempt?

Which stage? Any reasons given?

Hello guys.

I am new here, I am reading this forum day by day and every now and then I learn something new about CP programme. I have not found similar case as mine yet, so I was hoping one of you could give me an adivice on this. I am just about to finish my degree from mechanical engineering in the summer and I will get frozen ATPL at the same time. I was hoping if anyone could give me advise on my question. Should I go to Agency for civil aviation where the ATPL test is written off and finish my ATPL theory, or should I apply for CP programme with only frozen ATPL? Because writting off the ATPL theory will take me about 6 to 8 months before I finish it. So basicly I want to know, will ATPL theory give me any advantage when I apply for the programme?

Thanks :)

I am getting fATP in any way, because it comes with my degree, it is a part of my faculty programme. So I guess I am going to apply in summer with engineering degree and fATP will be my backup plan if I do not succeed in selection.

Thank you for your advice.

Anyone else getting their first interview in May? Vancouver?

Hi guys!!!

Does anyone know when are they gonna conduct interviews again in India ???

Thanks and have a good one guys !;)

Hi, questions for you...are you scheduled for an interview in Van? when did you apply and how many hours and what license/ratings? how old r u?

Thanks man...

max age?
 

Does anyone know what the max age CX will consider for the SO training? Or what's the oldest SO in the training?

Thanks guy's.

Hey all,

I am assuming all SOs have to reside in Hong Kong?

How long do you have to be with the company to live in Vancouver and fly out of there? 15 years or so?

Thanks!

Brandon, what is your age and experience?

21. Applied when I was 18. Finally got a reply two weeks ago to go to Hong Kong for initial interview.

I have HKID and can speak fluent Cantonese and English.

I currently live in Canada (born and raised). I visit HK regularly but the thought of living there scares me. I love Canada and I want to know IF (I know this is a long shot) I get accepted, how long I will have to be with the company to request to live elsewhere AKA Canada

At least 4 years, but probably more from what I understand. How many hours do you have?

Are you people serious??? You will NEVER see Canada. Guys that have been here for 8 years now hired onto a base, if they give it up and move to HKG will never get it back.

If you join this airline, plan on never leaving HKG (not a big deal because you will have a great quality of life on 10 K housing........OH WAIT!)

Why you guys refuse to listen to those of us already here unfortunately confirms what people suspect about your levels of maturity.

Good luck fellas.

@Brandon8
If you have never intended to reside in Hong Kong, I think you are better off getting all your licenses/endorsements in Canada and do GA until you have enough hours to apply for Air Canada or WestJet.

Something you have to think about when joining CX - you have to have the mentality that you will be permanently residing in Hong Kong. Not only that, you can't bring your western lifestyle standard of living into Hong Kong. Under the current CX Cadet salary, you will live comfortably in Hong Kong (under local's standard of living). Don't even think about paying off mortgages abroad as your salary isn't enough to cover 2 places.

Yes, the salary now is worse than before. But CX management has shifted their hiring scheme from hiring expats to hiring "locals". If you are young, single, and willing to relocate permanently, then CX may be the deal for you. If you are one of the many amongst here that are thinking about working for CX for a few years then apply for basing, then please think again.

Question for you, do you know what the oldest SO hired has been?

Flying experience?
 

Will CX consider applicant with absolutely no flying experience at all?

For example, I am a 22-yrs old engineer with Diploma in Engineering course and had some working experience in Singapore.

Had there been anyone selected purely from the beginning? I submitted my application on the last week or March 2012 and still waiting for reply. I currently live in Sg.

Just curious.

Please let me state that I never said I never intended to live in HK.

I know if I do get hired as a SO I will have to live in HK.

I just THOUGHT that if I work for the company long enough I may have a say in where I want to fly out of. I guess not.

Thanks a lot for your reply sp0r3. Your post was very informative.

I am kind of sad about this but I am willing to give up living in Canada to fly for CX.

But aren't there CX pilots out there who fly out of SFO or YVR or any other airport that CX flies out of and actually lives outside of HK?

Thanks!

yes and those 2300 people on the seniority list all get to bid for that slot when it opens ahead of you..no new base slots in last few years..

Has anyone received an email from CX recruiting department about updating their application for their AE Second Officer Program lately? I got an email from a recruiting manager about 2 weeks ago. Sent back the updated requested forms a day later but have not heard anything since then. I currently live in the US and was wondering what how CX's interview schedule looks like for 2012? I've already waited a year already. How much longer will I have to wait until I get an invitation/rejection letter?

The email I got reads as follows:

Dear Candidates,

Thank you for your previously submitted on-line application with Cathay Pacific Airways for our Second Officer programmes.

Given this application was submitted some time ago, we ask that if you are still interested in the Second Officer opportunity, to fully complete the attached Flying Experience Requirement form and the Up-date application form.

Kindly complete the attached forms and return by e-mail on or before 12 May, 2012.

Once we have received the completed documents your application will be assessed on interview suitability and competitiveness.

Should you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact XXX at [email protected] or by telephone + XXX XXXX XXXX.

Thank you for your continued interest in Cathay Pacific Airways.

Yours sincerely

XXX
Flight Crew Recruitment Manager
Flight Operations Department

ckthepilot
 

Hello ckthepilot,

i received the same email few days ago, and sent it back with all necessary updates i think the best think to do as far as the next step which i pressume will be the stage 1 interview is just to sit back and relax allowing them to review everything.

Good luck

@ckthepilot
Wait times vary depending on the amount of people applying in your area. Once they have gathered enough applicants, they will consider sending a team there to do the assessment. It does not come as a surprise for some that they have to wait over a year to go into Stage 1.

Which location have you picked for the selection process? If you are willing to travel (at your own expense), ask them to switch your preferred location to Hong Kong and you will get your Stage 1 quicker. If you pass Stage 1, your Stage 2 travel will be paid by CX!