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j3pipercub 10th Feb 2012 13:11


"suitability assessment"
Almost sounds like a casting couch...

xu149 10th Feb 2012 13:43

casting couch
 
omg yikes! :}

j3pipercub 10th Feb 2012 13:47

Sorry, subtlety is lost on me.

So the suitability assessment will go as follows:

You arrive at a faceless business complex and ring the bell of an office space that has no name next to it. They will let you up, filming you the entire time from several angles. The room will be really brightly lit, they will ask you how much LESS than C scale you'd be willing to work for, promising they'll fast track you based on the outcome of the assessment. You of course fall over yourself with eagerness to please (perhaps due to Patriachal issues) affirming that you'd be happy to pay CX to fly for them. You spend the next 45 minutes (read 6 years) 'trying on' various pineapples for size and at the end of it all you give the camera a very shallow fake smile in the hope that they might let you fly their big shiny jet, yet feel utterly humiliated from what you just did on camera. It isn't until you have left the premises and are driving away, not being able to sit down without a donut cushion (Read left CX with only a P2X rating and f*ckall chance of work anywhere else) that you didn't even ask for a kiss before you were f*cked.

Good luck to any starry eyed fool who is stupid enough to take this package. My one piece of advice is avoid the spiny leafed variety of pineapple, might be easy to insert, the removal is a whole different kettle of fish...

j3

iPilot88 10th Feb 2012 14:33

Advanced Entry Flight Grading
 
Hey guys. Came back last week from HK and passed Stage 2. Now off to Aus on the 23rd of February until the 10th of March for Flight Grading. Anyone in on the same dates? Anyone with some ideas on what to expect? Inbox me and we can have a talk about it. Cheers. Good luck ya all.

liugorgor 10th Feb 2012 15:47

ocanadaperfect

I am not exactly sure about that actually. Technically I believe you can think it that way or I suggest you should think the biggest enemy is yourself. I personally reckon as long as you can fulfill their requirements, show them your PERSONALITY in the interview should be ok. Simply because personality is a very very important component they will consider. Cathay seems like to train cadets in their way. So I really dont think lack of flying experience or have 3000 jet hours what so ever will be a definite advantage. And I really dont think a 6 month AE course or a 61 weeks course will be a big difference for them as well.

But I think schweizer2 is also right as well. They can simply select who they want in either courses I reckon. It really depends on your flying experience. In fact, since they have a high demand on pilots atm. So just show yourself in the interview and you will be fine.

crwjerk 10th Feb 2012 17:46


So just show yourself in the interview and you will be fine.
No, no, no, surely it can't be that easy????? I actually had to prove myself to them to give me a job.

Stallone 12th Feb 2012 06:28

the updating portal has gone FUBAR since forever

flyber 12th Feb 2012 13:07

Cx CP...
 
When cx are preparing a class eg CP44 to be sent to FTA, do they have a ratio for ab initio, AE, or TT or if they just get only AE or Ab initios, that's it?

liugorgor 12th Feb 2012 14:42

crwjerk

well yah of coz I am sure all applicants do need to make some efforts to study and prepare for the interview. But CX also tend to ask a lot of questions that will actually make you show your personality. In the other words, they will get to know you a lot more from the interview and eliminate those applicants dont fulfill their personality requirement. So what I am saying is, in terms of personality, it might be something that you cant hide in front of these very experience recruiter.

ChinaBeached 13th Feb 2012 02:35

.....literacy on the hand is an entirely different smoke & mirrors exercise?

ocanadaperfect 14th Feb 2012 04:19

so what "personality" are they looking for?

Aliz 14th Feb 2012 09:06

Hello :)
Got an initial interview next month in London.
I've got around 300hrs and frozen ATPL.
I've been looking up info about the flight training in Adelaide, but its still not 100% clear to me what we'll do there? Type rating? or multi engine hours? do they need us to have a min flight time after that training..?
Thx for the info!!

captain.weird 14th Feb 2012 09:09

@Aliz, congrats with getting your assessment.

Good luck with reading the 193 pages of this thread, you really need it.

crwjerk 15th Feb 2012 00:10


AOA update today mentions immigration finally got their act together and said no more Ab initio cadets that are not residents. Great news. Like in any country immigrant workers should bring skills and not just the ability to warm a seat in order to get a work permit.
Still excited?

Cpt. Underpants 15th Feb 2012 07:19


Highly appreciate if anyone can share/PM a typical SO ROASTER at CX
With the current salary, an S/O's looks like this:

http://www.wizardrecipes.com/upload/Roast%20Quail.jpg

It should look like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...st_chicken.jpg

crwjerk 15th Feb 2012 08:15

No, really???

blbl8326 15th Feb 2012 11:47

anyone know the time period (waiting) between them receiving an application and asking for an interview?

blbl8326 16th Feb 2012 12:29

thanks! because i really want to work as a pilot and that is a good way to get in

slotsdown 18th Feb 2012 08:18

Get a life and grow up!
 
Can the senior blokes - for goodness sake, stop whining. I think all aspirant CX pilots' would apprecite some advice and not cynical comments. My presumption is that pple want to work for CX because they admire the airline. They are not spoilt know it all brats as one pilot put it.

Ok, point noted, what pple want to hear is not the "positive" advice they get. However, how and what are the wannabes learning from you folk (the senior CX Cynics)? Definitelty a paranoid approach, childish behaviour - yes, it sickens me to the gut the manner in which some of you comment, an autocratic approach to juniors - trust me, we take note of how some of you treat us (the juniors) and it worries us that we might end up like "you" pple, stop indoctrinating us with paranoia!

IF THE TRUTH IS TO BE SAID, THE SENIOR BLOKES NEED TO GROW UP AND GO TO THE GYM INSTEAD OF SEATING BEHIND THE COMPUTER TYPING TRASH ON THIS FORUM IN THEIR CLUTTERED ROOMS AND WITH THEIR BEER BELLIES!:=

Kenny 18th Feb 2012 09:12

For crying out loud....what on earth is wrong with you lot?

You have the gall and cheek to have a go at guys that were flying before any of you were an itch in your fathers pants and yet you write as if you're 12 year olds texting some girl.

Pple!!! Ur!!!!

You want any of the guys at CX to take you seriously? Write your posts like adults and the professionals you supposedly aspire to be.

GrobRanger 18th Feb 2012 09:40

lol if these old folks behave like an adult or just a tiny bit as a professional, the whole cx fop would become a different story

props for you Slotsdown and Kenny :D:ok:

j3pipercub 18th Feb 2012 12:31

Ok, so poor widdle slotsdown is telling the experienced guys to grow up, based on his wealth of life experience and G(r)obRanger has been polluting bandwidth with his brand new handle... You two have no idea the impact your current actions will have on YOUR OWN future. I mean it's not that hard. Go and sit in a quiet room without your phone for half an hour and take the situation to it's logical conclusion. The people you are bemoaning now for whining WILL be you in 25 years time. You are your own worst enemy, you just don't realise it yet.

The hypocrisy and irony from you two is staggering. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Christ Almighty help us all if this is typical of the standard coming through wanting a career in aviation. If it is, might go back to single pilot...

j3

flyhardmo 18th Feb 2012 18:12


stop whining. I think all aspirant CX pilots' would apprecite some advice and not cynical comments
What You think is whining is actually advice. Why don't you believe what the people who actually work for Cx tell you instead of justifying your foolish decision. You are getting shafted that is the the plain and simple truth. If you can't see it now you will in a few years and then Post your smarties
Remark on this forum.:=

flyber 19th Feb 2012 16:56

Bmi
 
What's reqd bmi level for cathay cadet?

ixg888 20th Feb 2012 04:24

Hi
 
Hi guys i just want to ask if i will qualify as a second officer at cx. I currently hold a cpl/ir and currently undergoing first officer training at alpha aviation for airbus 320. But my cessna hours is only 200...

schweizer2 20th Feb 2012 08:53

ixg888,

Sorry but to be honest, your post sounds insulting to anyone who will just give you the answer.

You have demonstrate absolutely nothing towards research of your own.

Im just going to spoon-feed you the answer this time, as I think someone else will anyways.

Q: do you qualify as SO for CX

A 1: www.cathaypacific.com scroll down, click on careers, flight deck jobs. and I believe theres a tab that reads "requirements", click on that, read the requirements and I think you should have your answer.

A 2: read this thread, 190+ pages on information (and crap)

If you have done enough research to do an A320 self sponsored type rating, please have at least the minimum amount of respect towards CX pilots (not me) that are helping in this forum by showing a bit of innitiative on your side!

sorry to be blunt, but it is shocking for someone to want to join an airline without even looking at their website. :ugh:

ixg888 20th Feb 2012 14:18

CX
 
good day sir, here is the requirement that i have read on their website.

Advanced Entry – a 32-week programme for applicants who possess an ICAO CPL and have in excess of 250 hours flight time in specified categories.

with all due respect sir, I have done my fair research in my re-application for CX.
my question in my position is, I think, is valid as there was no mention of an added rating will help me in my RE-application this time as an advance entry pilot. When I applied for CX last year I only had 22 Hours and wasn't able to qualify. So all I did was train and improve before my 12-month duration for re-application arrive. It so happened that my training went faster than expected.

So I decided to go through a FOTraining for airbus 320 to be able to show CX what kind of preparation after my initial application.

Sir, I apologize for any insults that you think I had caused. But it was just an honest query.

Thank you and good day.

schweizer2 20th Feb 2012 14:34

Advanced entry requirements:

Total hours = 250
Total PIC not including PIC u/s= 100
Total cross country = 35
Cross Country PIC = 30
Total Night Time = 10
Night PIC = 5
Night T/O and LDGs PIC = 10
Night Navigation training = 1
Night Dual = 3
Instrument flying = 10

This is from a form I received by CX when I applied....

P2 and P2X hours are counted at half rate.

Jim-J 20th Feb 2012 14:46

Ixg888 re: A320
 
If it doesn't say 'Airbus/Boeing Rating would be advantageous', it aint gonna help. Not for AE programme anyway.....

schweizer2 20th Feb 2012 14:54

I agree with the above post, dont think the a320 type rating will assist in any way, shape or form with CX well atleast for AE cadets,

Cpt. Underpants 20th Feb 2012 21:51

au contraire, mon frère...

ixg888s' willingness to pay for a rating is fodder for the CX recruiting peons.

It's indicative of a well developed case of SNJ syndrome, eager to spend daddy's money to subsidise the inadequate illDoAnythingForAnAirlineJob pocket money.

He should be sure to tell the recruiters that he has his own jar of Vaseline, will pay for his uniform, and really, really, really doesn't want any salary, ever. A bit of begging and something to kneel on will probably help too. Don't forget the Rolex watches for the interviewers.

boxerpilot 21st Feb 2012 04:35

ixg888 u can PM me.

Will provide you some info that you can think about and use.
Daddy's money or not, u wont go unscathed in this forum :) If you are 'zero' hours - You are still gonna get crap, similarly for anyone with experience. :):cool:

smurf84 21st Feb 2012 15:34

bond737 - Which part of the world are you from? So it all got over in 2 hours?

ncjulo 22nd Feb 2012 20:09

CX tech quiz 1st interview
 
Hi All,
Just back from the 1st initial interview but pretty screwed up about the tech quiz. Does anyone know how it is taken into account? Do we have to be successful at 75% or more or less like the Atpl exam, is there an minimum average to get etc??
I am pretty sure I've done several mistakes and I'm do stressed about it!!

Thanks

congoman 22nd Feb 2012 23:11

I've just finished reading John Warham's book "The 49ers"
Should be mandatory reading for anyone contemplating the move.

M.FALCON 23rd Feb 2012 04:44

expected length of reply time?
 
Hi All, I also applied for the CX ab-initio course, mid 2011. Haven't heard anything from them, but recently attempted to update my info and was denied due to my application being currently processed. Any idea if this means that it is being moved through, or would it have said this the whole time? any idea of how long they take to respond to applications, and wether or not there are contact details by which to check on the status of mine?
cheers.

404 Titan 23rd Feb 2012 05:24

M.FALCON

It’s quite obvious you haven’t done any research because if you had you would know that the International Cadet Scheme is no more for ab-initio foreign applicants. The Hong Kong Immigration Department has put a stop to it which quite frankly should have happened two years ago when the first ab-initio cadets were employed. As far as the Hong Kong Immigration Department is concerned you don’t bring any skill to Hong Kong that isn’t already available here.

As for the rest of your questions, they have been answered to death already. Use the search function.:ugh:

b503 23rd Feb 2012 07:44

Anyone will have cadet pilot stage interview on 13-April
 
Dear All,

Does anyone have a stage2 interview on the coming 13-April 2012? We might prepare technical stuff together as well as practicing some group exercises.

Please voice out if you have interview on 13-April.

B503

Wannaberightseat 24th Feb 2012 18:50

2nd aircraft
 
NIKI. DC3 parked outside Cathay City

Do some research before you ask these questions. Its even mentioned in Wikipedia :=:ugh:

Sp0r3 25th Feb 2012 00:50

Actually, the "Niki" in CX City is just a similar model DC3 repainted into the old 1940's livery with Niki's registration. The real Niki is long gone somewhere.


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