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Dragonair Pre-qualified Cadets

Old 17th Oct 2010, 09:41
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Checkerboardhk

just wonder if u have ATPL written and valid Multi IFR?
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 13:35
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Hi Takamasa,

I only have PPL but I'm planning to go for CPL and MECIR in US or AU. However, my concerns on FAA are whether the FAA ATPL theory exam is recongized as fATPL by KA and CAD and whether KA "appreciate" FAA's CPL.

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Old 17th Oct 2010, 17:45
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for this program, basically Ka is helping you for your conversion.

but due to the fact, they only accept conversion base on ur first license.

meaning if you have your FAA PPL, you must not get a CPL/MEIFR issued by other countries.

this is not Ka's requirement but HKCAD request that.

so i strongly suggest you to stick with where you are and continue the training in USA.

i actually cant give you the answer whether they would accept both. but what i can tell you is that USA is one of the member in ICAO. i believe they will accept that. Dont quote on me. i cant confirm atm. i will see if i can find out the answer for u.
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Old 17th Oct 2010, 23:35
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Thank you Takamasa. In fact I'm holding a AU PPL so this mean I'll stick to CASA thought the AU$ is so expensive now.............But I think many others here and I still want to know more about the FAA's issue.

Thanks again.
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 03:50
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Anyone holding FAA CPL +250 hours got called for the interview?
Yes, as far as I am aware.

whether the FAA ATPL theory exam is recongized as fATPL by KA and CAD
Yes, required under CAD54 Part 3 Chapter 3 section 3.2.5.

whether KA "appreciate" FAA's CPL
Yes, US is ICAO member. However, you must in addition fulfil all flight requirements of CAD54.

they only accept conversion base on ur first license
I understand that CAD conversion is based on CPL which itself must not be a conversion. So if Checkerboardhk moved to US to obtain FAA PPL by conversion and then FAA CPL by examination* (not by conversion), that CPL is recognised by CAD.

* see wording in CAD54 Part 3 Ch 3 sec 3.8.1(e)
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 07:28
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fATPL

To be considered for selection as a Dragonair Pre-qualified Cadet, applicants must hold a Hong Kong Permanent Identity Card and meet the following requirements:
  • Hold an ICAO Commercial Pilotís Licence (CPL) with passes in all ATPL ground examinations
they only accept conversion base on ur first license
Hey,

Can any tell me if I do my CPL in NZ and ATPL papers in AUS if this would still be valid?

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Old 18th Oct 2010, 11:11
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If your existing licence is converted from another licence, please do not submit it.
The Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department will only accept your original "non-converted" licence.

it's quote from the appendix of HKA flight crew application instruction.

So basically u cant take short cut.

like Canada, people are only eligible to write the atpl with 750 hrs.

technically people can take a short cut, go to US,convert to FAA CPL,then write ATPL anytime they want.

but this wont work if you want to convert ur current license to hongkong license.
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Old 18th Oct 2010, 12:17
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Do you have a link or any idea on how to access the CAD54?

In Australia and NZ, there is no hour requirements for sitting the ATPL exams, therefore it remaining frozen until the 1500 hours are completed.

And so if what youre saying is correct, I can submit my original ICAO NZCPL license with my Aussie ICAO ATPL papers? cause in theory, those ATPL papers are just papers until its unfrozen.

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Old 18th Oct 2010, 14:59
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CAD 54

http://www.cad.gov.hk/english/pdf/CAD54.pdf

Hope this help
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 06:59
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Thanks Checkerboard, appreciate it!
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Old 19th Oct 2010, 21:39
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Hi guys,

I'm just wondering how do they usually contact you if you get an interview after handing in your application? Are they going to call you or e-mail you ? I'm little bit worry about his since I'm living in the U.S at the moment. I left the U.S contact number only on the application form. I heard that they usually give you a call if you are in H.K.


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Old 20th Oct 2010, 04:07
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"Like Canada, people are only eligible to write the atpl with 750 hrs.
technically people can take a short cut, go to US,convert to FAA CPL,then write ATPL anytime they want.
but this wont work if you want to convert ur current license to hongkong license."

Hi all,
So for the applicant from Canada, what is the best way to get the written ATPL done that is suitable for the KA pre-cadet program and HKCAD?
I am looking for the best place for me to take the ICAO ATPL written, but confusing now...
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Old 2nd Nov 2010, 03:14
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Interview

I submitted my application 2weeks ago and I'm wondering how long it normally takes for the process. Somebody said they will call the applicants about 2-3 weeks after the date of submission. Is that true?
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 07:47
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Just want to say thanks to Zanski for the info regarding the interview process.

It was a really big help.

Just did my Medical in HK and should be going to adelaide in Jan for Flight grading.

Does anyone hv any info for the DA42's that are flown at FTA? And also what is involved in the flight grading itself?

I've managed to find the checklists and flight manuel from the internet but its not from FTA. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 09:12
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hey rookie,
I couldn't manage to get my hands on a checklist from FTA until i got there either. The DA42s at FTA have the lycoming engines (the flight manual from the diamond website still have the diesel). Read up on the VPG for Parafield from the CASA website and flip through the G1000 manual. You might also want to have a look at the approach plates for YPAD (ILS and VOR). That should be enough to get you started.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 10:31
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Will do Zanski,

thanks again
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Old 9th Dec 2010, 12:23
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Hi,

Does anybody knows what's the minimum requirements to qualify for this KA Pre-Qualify Cadets Programme. I'm holding UK JAA Frozen ATPL and was told that i do not meet the mins.

thanks
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 05:54
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yep,

its on the KA website

"To be considered for selection as a Dragonair Pre-qualified Cadet, applicants must hold a Hong Kong Permanent Identity Card and meet the following requirements:
Hold an ICAO Commercial Pilotís Licence (CPL) with passes in all ATPL ground examinations
Hold a valid 1st class medical certificate without restriction
Have a valid multi-engine instrument rating
Have at least 250 flying hours
Excellent command of English, both oral and written"
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 05:57
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have u tried Cathay? They are hiring internationals but Dragonair are ONLY hiring permanent HK residents as far as i know
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 08:37
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Rookie p,

I was told by KA that i'm still in the Pre-cadet file. They told me that I'm well short of hours. PIC and Night time. Do you know whether UK SPIC time is the same as HK SPIC time? If that's the case then I would qualify for the PIC section but just 5 hours short at night time.

many thanks
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