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Forum: Fragrant Harbour
27th Apr 2020, 17:12
Replies: 49
Views: 16,776
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

And you seriously think that management haven't...

And you seriously think that management haven't thought of every single scenario posted here, and a few others besides...? Ok. Good luck with that.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
26th Apr 2020, 06:38
Replies: 108
Views: 82,369
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Billionaire? You'll be lucky to have a dime this...

Billionaire? You'll be lucky to have a dime this time next year DropKnee. :hmm:
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
26th Apr 2020, 03:34
Replies: 108
Views: 82,369
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

I don't doubt that some airlines will survive and...

I don't doubt that some airlines will survive and eventually regain some semblance of health. The problem is that nearly all managements (and especially ours) will use this situation to cynically...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
25th Apr 2020, 20:28
Replies: 108
Views: 82,369
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Flex, that nails it middle of the bulls eye. ...

Flex, that nails it middle of the bulls eye. Anyone that thinks this will end well for the individual is deluded. Certainly airlines will come out with market advantage, but you can also certainly...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
16th Mar 2020, 19:10
Replies: 18
Views: 15,060
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

The both of you have stated very reasonable and...

The both of you have stated very reasonable and valid points of view. However, does anyone with any experience with CX expect anything other than a cynical, crisis motivated land-grab against our...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
16th Mar 2020, 02:28
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

I might point out that effectively, the pilots...

I might point out that effectively, the pilots were the ONLY group of employees in the company that didn't receive the equivalent of a full 13th month. I'm sure that was just an oversight on...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
16th Mar 2020, 02:10
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

You're right Globo. I "just don't get it". I've...

You're right Globo. I "just don't get it". I've been here 25+ years, seen almost that many years of ongoing abuse, but "I just don't get it". What you don't get is when (and yes, we will) get past...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
15th Mar 2020, 16:37
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Nicely detailed analysis, although not all that I...

Nicely detailed analysis, although not all that I agree with. However, it avoids the simple question: We made a '"reasonable profit", and our 13th month should have been allocated in full on that...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
14th Mar 2020, 17:54
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Don't really care how "we are seen". Not...

Don't really care how "we are seen". Not relevant (other than to you). What matters is what WE KNOW. And that is a damn sight more than someone not in the company.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
14th Mar 2020, 17:34
Replies: 65
Views: 46,191
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

"Looking forward to a Cov19 free world..." I'm...

"Looking forward to a Cov19 free world..." I'm more looking forward to the world regaining its sanity. There's been 3 deaths in HK, about 45 in the USA, and approx 5000 worldwide. Sad losses for all...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
14th Mar 2020, 03:04
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Well, we are doomed. If anything is clear these...

Well, we are doomed. If anything is clear these past few years, the one thing we can be certain of is we are not led by "the fittest".
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
14th Mar 2020, 02:54
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Pickuptruck. Stop spreading "fake news". Delta is...

Pickuptruck. Stop spreading "fake news". Delta is NOT speaking of Ch11. They are one of the healthiest and strongest airlines in the industry. What they did say is that it is such an outlying event...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
13th Mar 2020, 04:16
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Well reasoned. Still, we are both aware of what...

Well reasoned. Still, we are both aware of what happened, and the pilots were the losers. CX made a very decent profit, and therefore cannot legitimately deny us our 13th month. The AOA needs to...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
13th Mar 2020, 02:49
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Progress. You are playing with semantics. Yes,...

Progress. You are playing with semantics. Yes, you are technically correct. However, the $30000 discretionary payment conveniently represented a full months pay for the majority of employees. Of...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
12th Mar 2020, 21:02
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Well said Ron. Agree word for word.

Well said Ron. Agree word for word.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
12th Mar 2020, 19:01
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

PW, I must correct you. Nearly every other group...

PW, I must correct you. Nearly every other group in the company received a FULL 13th month. Effectively, only the pilots were cheated (once again) out of their rightful share. ATY
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
12th Mar 2020, 18:50
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

The bonus is only "gone" because of attitudes...

The bonus is only "gone" because of attitudes like that. It's "gone" because the pilots are easily frightened, even to the point they won't insist on proper treatment under the terms of their actual...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
12th Mar 2020, 03:29
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

ACMS. Our 13th month contribution is a drop in...

ACMS. Our 13th month contribution is a drop in the bucket for the balance sheet of a major airline like CX. What IS important is being treated fairly throughout your career. That starts with...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
11th Mar 2020, 23:33
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

The real absurdity is that there will be people...

The real absurdity is that there will be people posting on this thread and complaining about not receiving their full 13th month, at the same time having taken SLS and given the company ANOTHER three...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
11th Mar 2020, 19:26
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Years ago the company started to manipulate the...

Years ago the company started to manipulate the payout on Profit Sharing. Now, effectively there is none. Just empty words in our worthless contracts. Now, they are starting to treat the 13th month...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
11th Mar 2020, 13:14
Replies: 68
Views: 23,629
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Profitable 2019. Where is our full 13th month?

So, considering todays profit announcement for the 2019 financial year, where is our justified full 13th month payment? There can be no question that under any interpretation of our contracts it...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
10th Mar 2020, 00:47
Replies: 65
Views: 46,191
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

I was only speaking of a possible early voluntary...

I was only speaking of a possible early voluntary redundancy scheme. Used about 22 years ago to shed many high cost pilots. Probably a good time to do the same, but it won't be on very desirable...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
10th Mar 2020, 00:45
Replies: 5
Views: 4,203
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

No, most of the staff got a full 13th month. ...

No, most of the staff got a full 13th month. Just not the pilots. Remember your place.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
10th Mar 2020, 00:24
Replies: 65
Views: 46,191
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Anybody who thinks that ANY offer from management...

Anybody who thinks that ANY offer from management will be desirable in its details really need their head examined. I don't doubt there will likely be an offer, but it will certainly be one that only...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
9th Mar 2020, 19:06
Replies: 65
Views: 46,191
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Just watching the US markets. Don't doubt that...

Just watching the US markets. Don't doubt that the world as we know it is changing. CX will certainly be changed right along with it. Considering useless upper management, political concerns,...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
9th Mar 2020, 19:03
Replies: 65
Views: 46,191
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Sadly, my guess is that is exactly what they've...

Sadly, my guess is that is exactly what they've done (again). You know that if they should have "zigged", they "zagged". Put money on it.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
9th Mar 2020, 17:17
Replies: 65
Views: 46,191
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

"three months for every year"....what are you...

"three months for every year"....what are you smoking?? At best such a scheme would be a month for every year worked plus three months. So, a 30 year pilot would be offered at best 33 months. That...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
26th Feb 2020, 19:02
Replies: 8
Views: 9,052
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

The most sensible comment of the month. As...

The most sensible comment of the month. As Controlled says, the Swires do what they wish, and the real state of affairs is hidden behind many layers of obfuscation. Although there is no doubt the...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
23rd Feb 2020, 20:35
Replies: 33
Views: 14,834
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Again. Is this really important? Talk about...

Again. Is this really important? Talk about spitting into the wind.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
23rd Feb 2020, 02:02
Replies: 33
Views: 14,834
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

No offense taken, but it seems there are bigger...

No offense taken, but it seems there are bigger issues at hand at the moment.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
23rd Feb 2020, 01:47
Replies: 33
Views: 14,834
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Considering all the really serious issues we are...

Considering all the really serious issues we are dealing with at the moment, the top thread on the Fragrant Harbour site is about "Americans" ? What on earth is wrong with all of you? I suspect...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
26th Jan 2020, 01:01
Replies: 54
Views: 33,240
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

All kidding aside, I would be getting my children...

All kidding aside, I would be getting my children out of HK now, not later. This could prove to be a catastrophic event. Who's willing to gamble with their own family?
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
16th Jan 2020, 21:07
Replies: 4
Views: 3,621
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Well, as long as you are willing to accept the...

Well, as long as you are willing to accept the "type" of pilot that entails. Apparently CX has no problem with the underlying facts of that issue. Won't - end - well.
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jan 2020, 19:15
Replies: 32
Views: 19,900
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Not arguing your fair points Cxorcist (other than...

Not arguing your fair points Cxorcist (other than I believe the bases could easily take up 60-70% of LH flying). I can only comment that there is clear evidence of the HK based pilots quality of...
Forum: Fragrant Harbour
5th Jan 2020, 15:26
Replies: 32
Views: 19,900
Posted By Apple Tree Yard

Although I benefit from the (somewhat) stable...

Although I benefit from the (somewhat) stable rosters on a base, I do see Pickuptrucks point (and yes...it did come across as a bit of a rant). If the bases monopolise most of the productive long...
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