easyjet pilots to strike??
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The time to sort out EZY terms and conditions,especially roster stability, is now - before company finances crumble completely.
#Load factors are dropping (like all airlines).
#Latest seat sale is selling tickets for £1 plus tax - not much revenue there.
#Problems of integrating GO and possibly DBA.
#Fuel costs not hedged, and probably staying high for a while.
#Introduction of Airbus - a sophisticated aircraft - not as cheap and cheerful as a B737, and certainly not a type that can be run on a shoestring crewing or engineering budget.
#Costs of financing all those new aircraft which have been ordered, and no guarantee that there will be revenue passengers to fill them.
#Resistance from established airlines on the routes that EZY would like to fly - most airlines now appear to be drawing a line in the sand and fighting back with good deals for passengers.
#Incompetent senior management and general moral problems affecting operations.
Next year will be too late for any concessions.
#Load factors are dropping (like all airlines).
#Latest seat sale is selling tickets for £1 plus tax - not much revenue there.
#Problems of integrating GO and possibly DBA.
#Fuel costs not hedged, and probably staying high for a while.
#Introduction of Airbus - a sophisticated aircraft - not as cheap and cheerful as a B737, and certainly not a type that can be run on a shoestring crewing or engineering budget.
#Costs of financing all those new aircraft which have been ordered, and no guarantee that there will be revenue passengers to fill them.
#Resistance from established airlines on the routes that EZY would like to fly - most airlines now appear to be drawing a line in the sand and fighting back with good deals for passengers.
#Incompetent senior management and general moral problems affecting operations.
Next year will be too late for any concessions.
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Loads are very poor indeed.
When will the city want managers heads for CHOPPING I wonder.
Even BOBBY Ayling walked with 2million after horrendous cockups!
Shares in the toilet at 258p
When will the city want managers heads for CHOPPING I wonder.
Even BOBBY Ayling walked with 2million after horrendous cockups!
Shares in the toilet at 258p
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Have you guys seen this thread in the Flight Ops Forum....
Easy Rostering...
Easy Rostering...
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Thanks all you guys at EJ for your posts. Hope you all get what you want eventually, cos it sounds like you deserve it !
I was just about to hand in my notice at FlyBe to join you next month, but I think I'll stay put for a while.
I was just about to hand in my notice at FlyBe to join you next month, but I think I'll stay put for a while.
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Channelhop
Do yourself a favour and come and get good training, join BALPA and support the current easyjet pilots. Also do not base yourself anywhere near LTN.
It might be crap but its better than FlyBE. In fact most of the time its okay its just you have not protectiion from roster changes and management who are happy to let your conditions slide.
The future is bright, i hope
Do yourself a favour and come and get good training, join BALPA and support the current easyjet pilots. Also do not base yourself anywhere near LTN.
It might be crap but its better than FlyBE. In fact most of the time its okay its just you have not protectiion from roster changes and management who are happy to let your conditions slide.
The future is bright, i hope
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Agreed- stay where you are channelhop, easyJet isn't worth the move.
I've yet to meet one pilot on the essex base who isn't looking for a new job. And it is true that ryanair are cold calling people. What an easyway to screw up easyJet!
easyJet wanted to create the best airline in europe by taking the best of both airlines- it seems they only like to choose bad. Poor staff travel etc.
I've yet to meet one pilot on the essex base who isn't looking for a new job. And it is true that ryanair are cold calling people. What an easyway to screw up easyJet!
easyJet wanted to create the best airline in europe by taking the best of both airlines- it seems they only like to choose bad. Poor staff travel etc.
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I seem to remember a phrase being bandied about during the take-over,... oops, err "merger" , and that was "best practice".
That seems to have been replaced by "cheapest practice"
Last one in , please turn out the lights.
That seems to have been replaced by "cheapest practice"
Last one in , please turn out the lights.
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Just heard that NW, GO's highly respected rostering manager, who was recently appointed as same under the combined operation, has resigned. This is just about the biggest bombshell that could happen to the pilots in a company which, by all accounts, is about to implode in a big way. I understand that there are about to be another couple of key resignations in the next few days.
All the pilots at GO breathed a sigh of relief when NW got the Rostering Manager job at EZY; why he is leaving is nobody's business but his own, but my information suggests that the company tried to "hush up" this news, mindful of the fact that rostering is the biggest issue, and coming as it does days before the crucial BALPA meeting with the EZY Board.
In addition, 160 cabin crew have resigned over the past 2 months, creating another crewing crisis which has resulted in the madness of positioning LPL EZY cabin crew by taxi to STN to operate three day tours on GO flights!
I spoke to a GO crew in EDI this morning, and they were devastated at the news of NW's departure.
All the pilots at GO breathed a sigh of relief when NW got the Rostering Manager job at EZY; why he is leaving is nobody's business but his own, but my information suggests that the company tried to "hush up" this news, mindful of the fact that rostering is the biggest issue, and coming as it does days before the crucial BALPA meeting with the EZY Board.
In addition, 160 cabin crew have resigned over the past 2 months, creating another crewing crisis which has resulted in the madness of positioning LPL EZY cabin crew by taxi to STN to operate three day tours on GO flights!
I spoke to a GO crew in EDI this morning, and they were devastated at the news of NW's departure.
Made a note in the diary on the way home. Simply reads: buger.
Nice knowing you Nick,
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Nice knowing you Nick,
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easyJet are being squeezed all round. Although I do not work for them I wish them no harm and wish all my flight deck colleagues a good life and career there. The problem they are facing, apart from management greed, is they have abandoned the low-cost model. The traditional model (Ryanair follows it religiously as far as I can see) is to operate from one place in the middle of nowhere to somewhere else in the middle of nowhere that no one else flies to, call the destination by a famous name and charge very low fares for it. A great plan you have to say.
easyJet have taken the risk of competing directly with the Charters and BA (and more dangerously its franchises) on their routes out of LGW to big-name destinations. These franchises can and are lowering their fares to whatever it takes to maintain their market share. The fact is that everyone has had reduced loads and therefore can take a risk on dramatically lowering their fares. Why travel with empty seats when you can charge virtually nothing and fill up? Ultimately easyJet are not as low cost as they would have us all believe and their competition are not as fat and inefficient as has been presented. I genuinely wish easyJet well, but they are about to enter a battle I cannot see them winning without taking a load of causalties themselves.
There is now, quite understandably, great disunity in the camp as Nero fiddles while Rome burns! Your management have been unbelievably foolish in awarding themselves £10M whilst making a loss for the period in question and attempting to effectively give pay cuts to their employees. Best of luck to everyone in the battle ahead.
easyJet have taken the risk of competing directly with the Charters and BA (and more dangerously its franchises) on their routes out of LGW to big-name destinations. These franchises can and are lowering their fares to whatever it takes to maintain their market share. The fact is that everyone has had reduced loads and therefore can take a risk on dramatically lowering their fares. Why travel with empty seats when you can charge virtually nothing and fill up? Ultimately easyJet are not as low cost as they would have us all believe and their competition are not as fat and inefficient as has been presented. I genuinely wish easyJet well, but they are about to enter a battle I cannot see them winning without taking a load of causalties themselves.
There is now, quite understandably, great disunity in the camp as Nero fiddles while Rome burns! Your management have been unbelievably foolish in awarding themselves £10M whilst making a loss for the period in question and attempting to effectively give pay cuts to their employees. Best of luck to everyone in the battle ahead.
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Before you Easy/GO guys and gals rush off to Ryanair, be aware that although the Irish grass is greener ,hey HATE the British to the extent that they critcise pilots for wearing popies for "Armistice Day* they cross out London from the approach plates for LDY and file the plates under "Derry"
The Dublin Ops staff are bloody rude. Probably company policy.
Since the HR dept has been heard to say that " Ryanair hates pilots"
One is ALWAYS required to exercise "Captain's Discretion" and do not even think about refusing to operate four sectors in busy European Airspace without an autopilot.
Flight Safety and flight time limitations are a joke in Ryanair, it probably helps that at least one senior member of the IAA is on the FR board
The Dublin Ops staff are bloody rude. Probably company policy.
Since the HR dept has been heard to say that " Ryanair hates pilots"
One is ALWAYS required to exercise "Captain's Discretion" and do not even think about refusing to operate four sectors in busy European Airspace without an autopilot.
Flight Safety and flight time limitations are a joke in Ryanair, it probably helps that at least one senior member of the IAA is on the FR board
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If this isnt sorted out.Once and for all on the 17th of January.
I feel Easyjet passengers can look forward to severe disruption and a further drop in share price.
Of course if the trigger happy texan and the mad rag head have a punch up in the sand.You may see M* t*avel hitting the fan!
M* easy T*avel!
I feel Easyjet passengers can look forward to severe disruption and a further drop in share price.
Of course if the trigger happy texan and the mad rag head have a punch up in the sand.You may see M* t*avel hitting the fan!
M* easy T*avel!
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I Hate to be harsh..
however, I just found out my pay for 2003 was going down $300:00 a month after the best review possible !!
While I sympathise a great deal with your plight, you have to realize that if the planes aren't flying the customers will find an alternative both to the detriment of the pilots and EasyJet. These are customers you will have to fight to recover. It's a loss-loss for both sides involved.
Much like you said, I had a choice today and I ate my words and became thankful I had a job to feed my family. I sure as hell couldn't survive on strike pay. Just like the late '90s were good for all us, this WILL turn around. My advice is not to hurt the ones you love and the ones who are depending on you.
I could be wrong; I just went with my conscience today.
Andy
While I sympathise a great deal with your plight, you have to realize that if the planes aren't flying the customers will find an alternative both to the detriment of the pilots and EasyJet. These are customers you will have to fight to recover. It's a loss-loss for both sides involved.
Much like you said, I had a choice today and I ate my words and became thankful I had a job to feed my family. I sure as hell couldn't survive on strike pay. Just like the late '90s were good for all us, this WILL turn around. My advice is not to hurt the ones you love and the ones who are depending on you.
I could be wrong; I just went with my conscience today.
Andy
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How many Easy Pilots have resigned
A STRONG RUMOUR IN THE CREWROOM THIS MORNING THAT FORTY APPLICATIONS FOR REFERENCES HAVE BEEN RECIEVED AT EASYJET FROM RYANAIR. IS THIS THE START OF A MASS EXODUS? CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM THE RUMOUR? WILL THE BOARD NOW TAKE ACTION?£40,000 MINIMUM COST TO THE AIRLINE TO REPLACE EACH PILOT.