Ukrainian Aircraft down in Iran
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Finally, these three images of the what I am guessing is the remains of 2L. Note the white streaks around the frame. More evidence of the intensity of the fire on that side of the aircraft. The RH engine tail cone and aft cowling. (can someone confirm this is in fact the RH. I am assuming so since it appears less burnt. Note the hole.
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Iranians call U.S. conclusion not true
The head of Iran's civil aviation authority has said the U.S. conclusion is simply not true, CBS News senior foreign correspondent Elizabeth Palmer reports from Tehran. A website affiliated with Iran's Revolutionary Guard called the U.S. intelligence a conspiracy cooked up by Iran's enemies, Palmer reports.BY ALEX SUNDBY
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Quite a bit more detail now coming into the news, about the missile from multiple sources - as described on here from the word go.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51055219
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51055219
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Nonsense. The IRG answers directly to the supreme leader (not to the civilian government). It is a disciplined and well trained force and it does exactly what is ordered, nothing more nothing less. The regular Iranian military is another story, sheer incompetence from their part is conceivable, however rather unlikely given the apparent unrestricted access to the accident site for local journalists. If there were anything to hide, there are few better than the Iranian authorities for acheiving it.
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The NY Times is also reporting the missile story. Included in their report, however, is this interesting tidbit:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/w...h-ukraine.html
. . . the Iranians, through the International Civil Aviation Organization, invited the National Transportation Safety Board of the United States to assist in the investigation despite previous reports that the Americans would not be involved, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Damn, that looks very clear to me
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There is clearly a missile going upward, left to right then a detonation and we see the aircraft on fire falling right to left. If the reports coming out in US publications now are true, that may have been the second missile launched and why the man was filming, having seen/heard the first missile detonate.
Edit to add: Obviously with the caveat this is an authentic video.
Edit to add: Obviously with the caveat this is an authentic video.
Nonsense is it? You must have contacts very high up in the Iranian regime. The BBC’s Middle East Security correspondent Frank Gardner has just said multiple sources are claiming an accidental ‘anti-aircraft missile’ launch struck one of the plane’s engines. We will of course have to wait and see, because wisely I’m not going to claim certainty about any aspect of this tragic crash resulting in such loss of life. Nothing more, nothing less.
There is clearly a missile going upward, left to right then a detonation and we see the aircraft on fire falling right to left. If the reports coming out in US publications now are true, that may have been the second missile launched and why the man was filming, having seen/heard the first missile detonate.
Edit to add: Obviously with the caveat this is an authentic video.
Edit to add: Obviously with the caveat this is an authentic video.
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It appears the fire is no longer visible from about the 7 second mark. Might this be the plane turning right and descending behind the mountain range?
If the video is fake then someone did a fantastic job what with the CMOS rolling shutter effect, color change of explosion, etc, etc.
If the video is fake then someone did a fantastic job what with the CMOS rolling shutter effect, color change of explosion, etc, etc.
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Now that they got caught, maybe the media access policy in Iran is about to change.
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Maybe there was something unusual going on already. News citing US military sources say there were two SAM launches. Maybe it was the second missile that hit.
